No, Witch King~!
Well it was someone, lines in the sand as you say, interesting perspective though, we shall see indeed.
Oh my vote went for NG myself.
NG loses characters. Not the biggest surprise in the world. You’re guys are losing multiple pops a turn, including the aforementioned gentlemen’s MT’s. I know who can replace what faster…
Hmmmmmmmm unless you know something we dont how do you replace kidnapped characters?
Well as you say you can indeed replace them faster than we can upgrade. If its true the game is over, if its not, then its not.
Since you are having so much fun and are so sure you are right, why not let you enjoy the moment, only time will tell.
I can sit back and await my fate!
What now, you want a pat on the back because you have the DS and on turn 13 you started kidnapping NG guys? Most of them know just enough tricks to get out of the bag anyway 
Remind us to congratulate you next turn for a successful downgrade relations order, I hear those need some tough planning also 
In the meantime you keep losing MTs, and when you try to hit back you lose your armies also… Pity, that would have been your first Eothraim pop centre 13 turns in the game, and 8 turns after you declared them dead (based on some 615s and 620s you scored on them back then, was it not?).
So for the record you can replace kidnapped characters or was that a lie, nice and simple answer, go on put your neck on the line to, go on you know it makes sense!
My statement is naught but you cannot do it, if you are going to taunt make sure its correct otherwise it just makes me laugh you do it so poorly.
As regards the rest well as you have broken open Mordor well lets see you take advanatage then!
Oh by the way pray tell where I ever called the EO dead, I DONT REMEMBER, DO YOU?
Or a bit of poetic licence again?
Oh we have lost nations and cities we must be losing the painnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
I still don’t know what you meant by “porkies” up above. We’ve intentionally avoided poetry and his neck’s been on the line since the middle of last game. After you concede maybe I’ll let you in on the internal shenanigans - it’s much more interesting than the game you’re giving us…
When the game is good and done I am sure all that has gone on will come out.
But the questions are simple, can you replace kidnapped characters as you claim and when did I say the eo was dead?
No patting on the back or claims of victory or defeat here, just a simple statement of fact that one cannot as claimed replace those characters as quickly as we can replace a MT.
Of course the fact one wont put up that hand and admit its a mistake, well what does that tell you.
Of course if you wnat to tell me that NG can sustain those losses and push into mordor and crush us feel free but one does not think one can.
The proof is in the pudding go for it then.
I wont tell you what we plan to do to you, we do it as we go along, enjoy!
<<Hmm what fight do the eo have in them not seeing it, yes I know sacrifice yourself to save the rest!>>
Sacrificed themselves? No fight in them? Well, ok, you didn’t call them dead, you called them vegetable.
And about gavin’s statement, you’ve been here talking about perspective all along, so here’s ours:
Your pop base has been decreasing since game start. Our character base has been increasing since game start (including the Eo’s who has been your main target so far). Therefore we are doing a better job replacing characters than you are doing replacing pops.
You seem to have lost 13 MTs since game start? (I will not even go into the other pops). Ok, we see a new one in our maps, that means that you have replaced the other 12 someplace we can’t see? Bold statement!
<goes to have a look at his neck and see what all the fuss is about>
Hey still dont see any statements that I have said the eo is dead.
I still dont see how you can replace kidnapped characters.
All else is naught for I told you no freebies.
But when you want to go ott and lie, I will point it out.
When you can put up and prove those points I will shut up, they say when in a hole stop digging.
Can you do it, did I say it as you say and can you break the game limits and replace kidnapped characters.
No victory signs, no congrates this end, much as you say we are doing, just a simple statement of game fact.
Of course as we all know the game limits on characters I dont really need to ask you to prove it as I know its not possible but hey if you are going to claim something talk realism and not make it up.
Of course you are free to do so but hey I will point it out.
The rest I will leave to you as you can threaten and bluster as much as you like.
But come on where the statement I said the eo was dead?
And how do you replace kidnapped characters.
Oh darm they dont exist, I guess that means you made it up?
Of course you just cannot bring yourself to admit it and go off on other tangents, ouch how hard to ignore!
my my my, one day you say you’re leaving the boards to us and another day you’re stomping and raving about whether we can replace kidnapped characters. “Prove” something? Of course we will, but not in words, what the hell do words on the forum have to do with anything? Gads…
And besides, no one can prove that you can replace a kidnapped character any more that they can prove they can replace Carn Dum or Lug Ghurzun… The game has limits not only on number of characters, but on number of pops also. Where exactly is the difference
You prove it in your actions. You don’t talk about doing something - you just do it. Talk about it afterwards if you like.
We’ve talked about removing the Witch King, Rhudaur, Dragon Lord and the QA from their starting homelands. Completely, I might add.
Frank talks about attacking the Eo with characters early (1. Big Surprise 2. Never followed up with military assault = complete waste of time) and NG characters now (they’re finally confident of kidnapping NG commanders on Turn 13…).
Wow. DS playing a classic hunker in the bunker defend Mordor with characters and dragons game and are happy about it. Personally, I need my space… And from what I know of the water supply in there, I can’t imagine the hygene issues they’re dealing with…
We can’t replace kidnapped characters, but there’s a limit…
Anyway, in the case I’ll get the green light, I’m sure I’ll get some of your chars.
Gixxx
Then simple you agree that your statement that you can replace captured caractured quicker than we can MT is untrue?
And still waiting to see where I called the eo dead. hey its all about the honesty.
The boasting I leave to you, but be honest about it, if you cannot handle being caught and go onto other tracts, a classic action when you are caught with your pants down, dont do it!
The game goes on, deal with it
… but replacing chars is easier than replacing PCs.
… so we have the easier way!
Gixxx
Please carry on the question is not how easy one can do something but can you replace a kidnapped guy?
I dont think you can and as a result say its an idle boast with no meaning.
It does not matter what the eo has done to date but we still did not call him dead.
Now you can boast all you like just make sure its true.
The rest I leave to you as boast all you like!
No freebies here its all in game!
We shall see?!
I’m ready to give Mordor a little shake!
Have Fun!
Gixxxx