Game 3 starts

General
#241

Ahh… many long time since we last chatted BBR.

Neutrals turn 13???

Quick Rundown on our game…

Rhu - lots of rules lots of chat never sure whether he’s ac or dc, usually a DS, usually in the freep way. Lots of coms back and forth but he asked if we could go around the plains hexes to get to Nightboy = positive freep response (but we did give him notice) Yes true bastardry adn proud of it. Thign is we all had that lot planned for your tiger of the north but alas, we were delayed several turns by the Rhu

Quick note: Brad of the old Rhu, is now an ally in another game… if he wants to return the favour? :rolleyes:

Cors - Yeah who played the Corsaris anyway? Never replied once to me or???

Harad - Recruited with good communication. Offered a plan and given updates. HE decided to join the freep… hey, this freep side sounds so good to me, I’d play with these freepers myself :smiley:

Recap on the Neutral count - DS 2, Freep 1.

Easterlings - nation is usually halved when turning to the DS due to geography, the north burns but I hope the real reason was the same as the Harad’s. He may also tell you if you ask him? I’ll let him know your concerned :slight_smile:

I guess this is the crunch point, seeing how it’s turn 13 coming and we have moved onto a Duns villiage, sort of nasty of us but we do have nastier.

Now, one could say, how did you DS know this but we both know you know and Duns knows… :wink:

The other thing is, Mr Dun (“Dun very little communicating all game”) is now been offered a choice, he’s been given a reason, able to respond to a few disturbing DS activities in the area, Mtn encounters and the like… a free person is given the chance to explain to our people that he sees teh benefits of becoming our ally, like 2 others before him.

Truth be known, some of us can’t wait to finsih this one as Mrs Nightgown has pointed out. Difference is, I don’t quit… maybe if asked by the majority (even then I might excersise my other human rights and not just my ‘supposed’ player ones?).

If we’re trying to jolt other neutrals to attack me in any game I go to… please spell my name correctly. :smiley:

Also please exclude others you have publically named, they had nothing to do with the moves onto the Duns this turn, I co-ordintaed that, just like one small clause in the mail I sent to this player… it’s nothing personal. It’s a military decission given the game circumstances, is what I’m telling everyone else listening

Glad I could clear this up with you… still nothing personal :smiley:

Ditski… always looking for something new (not really finding it)

#242

P.S… I forgot, it won’t be your choice as to whether your staying in the Nwest or not.

We took a vote and… :eek:

Ditski…
I just can’t resist it. Drug testing on the internet, what’s the world coming to? :slight_smile:

#243

Ahh Dipski…keep trying someday maybe mommy will give you the attention you need and you can stop posting like an autistic child shoving cheerioes up his nose. You are far from being close to taking me out, as insignificant as your “efforts” have been…keep trying.

#244

“It’s a military decission given the game circumstances…”… so how do you spell your name - Ditski or Dubya?

#245

Take a snippet, focus attention to it and make it a story of your own. :slight_smile:

The Duns: I am using the same decissions/theory on the last unaligned Neut as we are with the misaligned DS… “please don’t get in the way of the finish line and you won’t be run over” :cool:

Can’t have pedestrians wandering onto the Freep super highway in the middle of peak hour now can we?

One exception to the rule was the WK where we actually are going out of our way to remove your # 1 (not sure what he’s one of but I hope it’s not many?).

Grabbing attention via nationality insults does work but not in a personal way… the sheepherders (having more fun insulting ourselves) will hunt you down and eliminate you just for fun and the best part is, I didn’t short change my teamwork to do it :smiley:

Anyway, Ditski and Dubya… I watched a movie called Dumb and Dumber, is this like that :confused:

BBR, lets not play around with what I’m saying:

  1. I Don’t like Neutrals as they tend to be victory hunters (not stereotyping, just averages and especially if they are in the middle of your territory, still neutral T13+ and have a pile of troops to share with someone)

  2. They tend to be the one’s that can change a winning position into a losing one… that would be our situation BTW :wink:

  3. They make me nervous, a war is going on and they get to watch until one side is almost destroyed, then clean out the profits that belong to the workers?

A tip, neutrals become allies if you “recruit” them. Suggestion, instead of trying to incite all neutrals to hate me in all games, why don’t you try and recruit one and have an ally attack me instead?

Curiosity, why didn’t you get more Neuts to your team? You had the first 2. There’s still one left… me thinks you can’t recruit the last one because you have nothing to offer other than “their team is nasty, join ours?”

I’d Probably keep WK (Nightsbane the Tiger) out of the negotiations and Try not to threaten them with ‘game balance’ (mathematically you’d need several mor eneutrals to achieve balance) as most of them didn’t care about that when they joined anyway… (whoops I let that sinister opinion slip out)

I think honest Neuts mention “planning and communication” but if you just want to join to watch from a front seat, that’s your right too.

Now, I’ve made some friends and allies that were Neutral… but they wern’t neutral for 13 turns requesting a few more turns to “build up”.

From our position, of which you could be forgiven for having little understaning of, We don’t want any “Build ups” sitting in our front yard, (potentially the DS front yard up to about turn 2 I think?) and that sort of sums it up on Neutrals as seen by myself.

That also means you can blame me for writing/thinking this, not any other players. :mad: (I’m not actually mad just wanted to look mean and tuff)

Subject change:
BBR, are you a friend of Nightscame (who is fast becoming Nightswent and so does the Nightmare), who is a friend of the person who can’t be named for gamers fear of being struck down by the god that starts with ‘C’ should you reply to the nameless one?

If so come out and say it, don’t hide it. Be proud of your friends : )

However, if you are not, (apologies, I’d hate that tag of those that hide behind alias’ trying to pretend they aren’t holding a grudge from somewhere else and their wit has no bearing on the current game)?

By all means attack me in the game, attack me on the forum, in the streets on the beaches… blah blah, we shall never surrender… (or go away unless evicted) but leave the personal side out of it? By all means have your fun with me

Anyway, back to the point of the mail:
Nuclear testing at a facility near you… sorry, it will have to be the middle of Mordor, all other sites have been ade redundant :smiley:

Ditski

P.S. Speaking from a game sense:
Are you still mad at us for seriously burning your 2 recruited Neutrals, your “Tiger”, and a large portion of your recruited south? Perhaps the recaptured Rhun, eviction notices of the Drag etc has stirred you up? I think you carry too much of a grudge and worry too much… even if I play another game with a neutral in it, you don’t need to rally an attack on me, I can do that myself but thanks for the effort all the same and good gaming to you too :wink:

#246

Dotski… you misunderstand me so badly its funny. I am not mad at you. What possible reason could i have 2 be mad at you? The FP havent done anything exceptional - or even noteworthy - in this game. Of course life is easier for the FP if you steamroller unprepared neutrals, and if Harad and Easterlings join your side. But was that because of you? Not the way I hear it

All i wanted to do is see you declare your true colours: a neutral basher you are, and you self-proclaim it. All who encounter you in other games should remember it… long may that serve you well…:rolleyes:

#247

baaBaa please…dont take a from Dipski’s grand victory…I mean turn 13 and with dwarves, woodmen, cards, arthedain and noldo…and Im still alive in the NW, bravo…please dont insult my moronic speaking friend…his gibberish is about all he adds to this game.

As for my unnamed “friend”, its not a question of him being a friend or not, its your apparent lack of intellegence to leave a subject alone, proof only by your big mouth in this game. Bring it, Im still alive and kicking dipski…until then you are all talk, I pity your sheep for having to deal with that every night.

#248

… I rest my case your worship but it was Not me or the sheep, we haven’t done anything, well except maybe Hit a Nerve… more of the infamous trash talk? :smiley:

#249

Game 3

A spirit decended upon Ditski and spoke to him, “this is how you will comment to the misguided, twisted evil word spreding the land”

“Words given me from a spirit in the form of a wise old man…”

Neutrals start the game out of the fight. They get to sit back, school their resources, and watch the factions beat each other to death. Then when the aligned nations are in a weakened or exhausted state, they get to see which way the wind is blowing, and then strike with surprise and the strongest of forces. This is what everyone expects. This is what the neutral in particular expects and wishes for with all his little heart. He screws his little eyes up night after night as the war goes on around him, clicks his little red shoes together and prays that he can knock out an aligned nation on his first rush…

It’s kinda like beating a dog. If you do it all the time, the dog expects it, so why get surprised if - every now and again - the dog takes your arm off :slight_smile: Neuts are not vestal virgins that the legions of both sides have to protect, they are neutrals. That does not mean ally, it does not mean protected species, it means someone that will attack one of the factions by surprise at precisely the wrong moment. So if you are in the position to take them on, and you don’t believe from your previous contacts with them that they have any intention of joining your team, well then they need to look to the mug silly look on their own faces when the surprises are all going the wrong way :slight_smile:

If as a neut you don’t want that possibility, join early so your cards are on the table, or don’t play a neutral.

In game 3, one neutral had player issues with a Freep player so in the interests of having a fun game, it was preferred that he not join the Freep. Two others never opened any meaningful dialogue with the freep for the duration. That put them in the suspicious category, and… well… we’re back to considering who best wears the mug silly and surprised look… Funny thing was that two of those neuts also made a few threats about what would happen to anyone that earned their displeasure - which made it a bit of a comedy in the end :slight_smile:

Two Neutrals opened real and meaningful dialogue with the freep and decided to join up. The content of their contacts with us led us to believe that we had a real possibility of wooing them, and so we did.

Now that explains the Freep position. We did not expect to gain the other 3 neutrals though Claus still has the choice. We decided to take them on - on our own terms. That should make the DS happy if anything that you didn’t have to rely on diplomacy to gain them. The neutrals have no cause to complain as they always had the option of joining us (well except the Rhu).

What this is really about is a whole different set of sour grapes I suspect. The neutrals get to attack in whatever underhanded manner they please, and no one gainsays them for that, but the shoe on the other foot is that the aligned nations may well choose to do the same. They are not allies, and there is no special rule in the book that an aligned nation needs to bear his ass-ets and paint a bullseye on 'em for the benefit of every neutral on the board.

If you have issues arising out of other forums, then attempting to make some kind of fait accompli out of a 13/12 split is just not going to cut it under the harsh light of day. So leave that one go. If you really do have some concerns over neutrals, and remember it is a 13/12 split, and we did have reasons to suspect the 3 were not going our way, then I’d advise you rethink your attitude as an aligned player towards the neuts. You need to protect yourself from them at all times or you will keep wearing that mug silly look when they come at you. Or you could always join the peace corp… :slight_smile:

… And then the spirit disappeared, leaving a clear position in Ditski’s mind and the world as we know it could see the truth for themselves, making their own judgements :wink:

#250

Arfanbrad speaks from the Mists…

If a neutral isn’t talking there are very compelling reasons to attack him. Either he’s already on the other side, or most likely going to be on the other side, or, for talkative people like Gaul and I and Dit, not worth enough as “allies” to care for. Thus, they get nuked, preferably “by surprise”, just as they are wont to do. Now, don’t go calling Rhugga a neutral basher, I’m a neutral 70% of the time. I know what’s going on…

#251

“Do unto others before they do unto you”

Works for me.

  • King of Khand
#252

*And so it was written that at the opening of the 4th month of the war, the Free Peoples attempted to institute gibberish as the national language of Angmar. Unfortunately it proved to be unnecessarily complicated for Murazor’s subjects who preferred to communicate via smells. It was said that Murazor’s greatest speech occured 6 months after he died (though some say the smell actually improved…)

*I’ve played the NW DS many times and survived the best of enemies. Maybe I should give you some advice since you’re being spanked by this motley crew :slight_smile: Insult the freep all you like, it only makes you look sillier since they’re KICKING YOUR GIRLY BUTT!!! :slight_smile:

Ditski of Angamar… etc

#253

Yeah I heard where Nightsbum comes from the ‘Men are men, and the sheep are grateful’… Respects to your shepherd :slight_smile:

Personally, if I were a sheep I’d sooner have a shepherd that was all talk… but don’t let that put you off :slight_smile:

He was not much of a talker, but a lovely little mover… :wink:

Ditski.
Though severely hampered by Nazgully lingo and general smell talk (that don’t say anything positive?) The ‘game’ to them is all about this nasty Ditski… better than broodway :stuck_out_tongue:

#254

*Oooh stop it, I think I’m going to cry. You make the neutrals sound so much like Miss Muffett that I just want to put my hairy hands all over them and squeeze them tight :slight_smile: Okay I admit it, you’ve got me, I’m also a DS basher in game 3, I’m such a rat, I just don’t have any idea why anyone would invite me to a wargames :eek: :smiley:

*What else is there to do G3? I’m Finally getting some fun from this game. Imagine spending near all game with nothing to do in Mirkwood and only having the WK (actually Witchy had run away and given a major pop to the LR and successfully saved his own hide whilst watching newly joined ally burn in record time?).

  • If I’m a neutral basher, then you bash allies? Once they join your team your supposed to help them? Neutrals are potential allies or enemy’s, not both like you did with Rhu…

  • I had to watch my allies get a touch up on the early forum messages, despite the thing that counts (which isn’t the forum btw). Now you have some oposition, it becomes sour grapes.

Along comes Nightglum and BaaBaa. Lets tell the world that Ditski is a black sheep of G3, and include all games before and all games after. Fact is, You both seemed fine to dish it out until recent verbal reep Floggins with a Baggins were given… now we’re all diverted to the conversation about Ditski the Devilish basher of Neutrals… that’s really funny from over here, beer in hand, sheep at the ready :slight_smile:

Now over to you for something intelligent or at least something relevant :rolleyes:

Ditski

#255

You know what Ditsky, I had a whole message already written, and frankly…its just not worth it. What started as lighthearted and in my opinion “in game”, seems to have deviated far from that, and I dont want a part of it.
When we have things in game to say that are relevant Ill respond, otherwise…good luck to you. You want to keep it up, be my guest…Im done with it

#256

From the Beyond…

To be fair to the DS, I made my bed all by my little lonesome. There was nothing the DS could do to help me at the point it was known that I was going DS. I miscalculated the FP bloodlust, my mistake, you can’t take the DS to task over Rhudaur…

Arfandeadbrad

#257

Nope, not interested in taking anyone to task Arfa but as you may or may not read, I am also not going to sit back and get tagged by a couple of grumpies as a premeditated neutral basher, of which you know I was not… even if I think it, I don’t do it.

Forgoten you’d played :wink:

Ditski

#258

Ok, fair call. Though I seem to have caught you way off track with the facts on where this all started and how it steadily got out of hand, I do appreciate that continuing this style of thread has a short life span with nasty unwanted side effects, like accelerated drinking habits :smiley:

Cheers,

Ditski

#259

Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha !

Come and play with me Ditto, I’m still there !

Ditto, Michael extreme verbal battles aren’t usefull for both teams.
Ditto I’ll tell you something about this game in a private message and I’m pretty sure that your anger against Nightsbane will be history.

Have Fun !

Gixxx

#260

Easterlings - you went backwards ! Come back ! Come back ! (or: go away ! go away ! :wink: