Did i spoil the Uber plans of the FP… My capitol looks safe as ever! Argeleb gonna throw himself on my walls… you guys simply don’t have enough troops there to even scratch me! better luck in 2 turns!
Well you are not going to send out raiding forces out from there in the neat future.
How about the “dead” Nazgul? Can you actually kill one? Well at least the Lady Nazgul is out of the game.
Ohh and we don´t have Über plans (if speaking German use an Umlaut).
Just slow and steady taking a MT here and there.
Cheers,
Martin
Mount Gundabad is secure. It should be, it is far from the places of critical action and either the Holy Avenger or his predecessor has invested a fortune to have a city and a castle out in the sticks. What was the gain? The city can provide 500 troops per turn a paltry gain of 100 troops per turn over what Mount Gundabad’s capability to begin with. Every army costs Angmar an additional 5000 gold. The Fortifications cost you more than they give you. With winter coming on and the markets so depressed where will you get the funds to maintain what you got, let alone be a realistic threat? Oh, right; your allies who are bearing the brunt of the war in the areas far from your little enclave will send you their gold. I guess they could spend the orders to send you what they stole from the Woodmen that would allow you to keep the lights on and the heat paid it would even let you recruit again. What does that say about the game however. The DS can steal enough money from the lowly Woodmen to keep the mighty Witch King afloat. I’m not even playing in this game but I notice you don’t seem to be the DS with dragon support. Now why is that? Could it be that because you have so few settlements in the northern mountains and the Misty’s that you don’t know where the dragons are roosting? Could it be that you don’t have your characters out looking for dragons. Could it be that your Army keeps getting itself killed before the characters out looking for dragons can actually recruit one? You know you have to have an actual army extant to recruit a dragon.
Now I don’t know what the Free have in store for you. I do know that they do not need to attack Mount Gundabad at this time. They can simply sit and watch you spend your budget away and then when you can no longer afford the maintenance on the army and send it out to sacrifice itself they can intercept it. Once again more money down the crapper for you. Look at your situation now mighty Witch King and compare yourself with Hezekiah. Hezekiah too had a strong fortress upon a hill. He too was shut up in his city like a bird in a cage. I wonder if there will be some miraculous relief of what is in effect a blockade of your city on a hill. You are blocked from the northern Mirkwood area now by Arthedain. You cannot go west because the Free can out recruit you there using only population centers that used to belong to you. So all you can do is sit inside your fortifications and shout defiance while at the same time being a financial drain on your allies. One wonders how long they will continue to support such a distraction.
You may not be in the throes of distruction but are your victory points going up. Yes Gerhard I know you will chime in that victory points mean nothing in the team game. I have heard that song before. However, even if you do not pay attention to victory conditions the points do tell a story relative to how the game is going. If your points are trending upward then you are getting stronger because it reflects the gold you have on hand, the relative strength of your characters, and the relative strength of your armies. I would assume that your position is sliding down, even if that slide is very gradual. As an example, take the Witch King; he lost what from what I read was his only army. I don’t hear of him boasting of taking anything so I would assume his victory points went lower as his nation did get weaker. Now of course that would be wrong in the event that he is already at or about 400 points and could not go lower. Another indicator might be how many nations on either side at this point: in what has obviously been a hard fought game, have victory points above 1000. I know that the players standings show much higher scores than 1000 but during the game much is done to keep gold holdings suppressed to avoid thefts and that brings down the points. So if you don’t have several nations above 1000 that means your opponents probably do, and you are losing. The trend lines mentioned above also bear into this thinking are your scores going up or going down? Again it points to your wealth, character and military strength.
I can tell this game is hard fought. Both sides are losing a lot most of which is not admitted to here as both want to put on a show of confidence and strength. I know the body count is high. For both teams many characters have been killed and more yet are held hostage. The DS are down a nation and that is a disadvantage. They have made up for this with an aggressive character campaign. The DS have killed a lot of characters through assassination and Spirit Mastery. Bain died this turn as an example; like Phillip a victim of an assassins dagger. However did the DS profit by gaining his artifacts, no mention of it by the DS so I will assume no. Adunaphael was killed in a challenge so tit for tat. I would think that the DS have an advantage in agent and Spirit Mastery but are losing income base and with a nations worth of characters gone have not made up the loss of available orders.
My question to both sides is who is stealing more from the enemy and in conjunction with that who is losing the most population center levels. Without Gold and production those armies and characters cannot be sustained. So to me this is the real matter of this game; not whether or not Mount Gundabad stays in Witch King hands. Since the Witch King is the one who is quick to post his power I just address him. Avenger, I don’t think this game is about you. The Free treat you as a side show. Maybe you should be grateful that you’re not that important to them.
Regards
Brad
How about the real scarey truth is… The WK is stronger now than before I took it over… Yes argleb could sit there… a turn then be dead the next…
Even as a side show I divert valuable resouces FP also… Funny part is unless you playing WK right now you really have no clue what’s happening only guessing!
Ah, but Terry is the Witch King stronger since you took over because of your success or is it because your allies transferred pops to you? The real scary truth is that you ignored addressing the issues I brought up. How come the dragons aren’t flocking to your standards? Which side stole more gold from the other? My sources tell me that you guys lost 14 thousand gold more than you took in; now that cannot be a good thing. Are your victory points trending up or down? You did indeed lose your army, now whether that was your ONLY army or not does not mean much to anyone but you of course; but to replace it is going to cost you another 5K, not to mention metal resources. I guess you could field a mob of club swinging Orclings but that is not in keeping with the mighty power you present yourself.
As has been posted you are done raiding for a couple of turns. Argeleb isn’t going to die to an assassin any time soon unless someone sends you some more help, isn’t that right?So what does that mean for Murazor? Angmar will continue to be crushed by high taxes to pay for the upkeep of expensive, underemployed or captured characters. More expensive armies or in your case just another army has to be recruited. Agents or mages will have to be sent north if you are to deal with the blockade of the remnants of Angmar.
So who is diverting assets? Sure there are assets in the North keeping you bottled up, but that is what? Say it with me, Excess Capacity, yes that is correct. The Free don’t need these guys in the south where the REAL war is being fought. You are correct, you are a diversion. DS pops have been diverted to you or you would have already collapsed. DS gold or resources may have to be diverted to you to keep you in situ. To really give you some breathing room agents or mages will have to be sent up north. What does that say about the actions at the gates. The conveyor has begun. The defenders of the gates have to themselves keep spending to keep armies blocking the Free long enough for agents or mages to do their thing. It has been a good combined arms defense, and your allies are to be commended. However remove a leg from the stool and it will collapse.
For you, the sad truth is you’re a side show, trying hard here in the Forums to sound relevant or even threatening. Just be happy the Free don’t consider you worth swatting.
Brad
First off since your not in this game… you don’t know squat what is going on do you!
So you can fill your mind with all kinds of stratgies you think this grudge team is doing… The real point is this game has turned in our favor not the FP… Yes I have had some effect on that becuase WM is now limping and doing Nothing at all… Arthdedain still has to get rid of me at 2305 becuase he can’t send squat to Mordor until he does…
As for a drain on the DS team… LOL that is rich! Taking over something about to Die with FP armies all over WK … then pushing them Back hurting WM and destroying every army he owns… That’s just being a drain in your book… Well I don’t play by your book… Not playing By team Simpsons book either…
Whatever support I get from my grudge team… has not come begrudgingly… As for my victory points in this game … doesn’t mean squat to me… i didn’t start this game… If I finish dead last and cricle wins That’s a win for me to becuase I will be there when it happens not IF it happens!
Maybe that’s what you don’t get… Grduge games are pure team games… who finishes is all that matters not who’s On top and gets the so called win! But toot your horn somewhere else becuase your just trying to say i’M A BAD TEAM PLAYER! So go spread your conjecture to someone who cares!
No Terry, you are wrong once again. I do know quite a bit about what is going on. I am friends with the guys you are playing and I am kept in the loop. It’s just so easy to yank your chain. As for you being in at the end of the game; well, that will kind of be a novelty for you won’t it? One of the things said about you is your ability to bankrupt your nations early. I see you have come up with a way of ensuring you haven’t had yourself eliminated early. Joining up after turn ten makes it impossible to eliminate you by turn 10 doesn’t it. Shrewd thinking on your part. It may be true that it is hard for others to eliminate you, however, since you do such a fine job on your own that is not much to hold on to.
Keep having fun, as Gixx says. I will just continue to point out that your bombast is from the information I am getting, only that.
Regards to all
Brad
Well your getting information from your former opponents and trying to give them spells Volumes about your personal integrity… Which you have none… It’s a Good thing Gixxer Kicked you off our Team! Becuase Now I just look forward to any game in future Konocking you out of the game… Something you could never do to me Even if you conspire with other nuetrals… Your right Only you can damage yourself in the community! Something you have done to yourself… your removal from the Circle is for actions you did to yourself! Becuase Count me as an enemy in all Games I see you in now! Not that I am a big threat by your assesment… That’s exactly why you will be so easy to beat! Oh just for your Information you new Buddy’;s Team Simpson are going to lose this game!
So go fishing for imformation from someone not as smart as you… I gave you and team simpson nothing here… But another hard time! :eek:
Wrong again Terry, I have never been on Gixxer’s team. Before you make comments like that it might have been a good thing to check with Gixx to ensure you had your facts correct. Truth be known Gixx was for a short while on MY team, he unfortunately had to be let go, and replaced. Wrong again on the getting information from my former opponents. I am being given information by my friends. That is what is meant by being kept in the loop. You are correct about one thing; it does speak volumes about my integrity. I doubt anyone would let me know as much about what is going on if they felt I could not be trusted with that information. Your spelling is slipping I don’t know the meaning of the word Konocking, could it be you meant knocking?
Be my enemy in any game in which we find ourselves. I won’t consider you any more than another opponent, as I don’t take this game that personally. Stay with Gixx’s team though to get your chance. I’ll be playing in the rematch. I was in this game in fact until turn 8, when family issues forced me to get someone from our team to take over my position. Gixx is a good player, so is Brad B they have always provided spirited competition. You need to learn from them not to get so wound up over someone poking fun at you.
You are still dancing around the important parts of my posts. That dancing however will give me more to post about in the future. I’m done with you for now. Maybe you will give me more to talk about after the next turn runs. Maybe you will over run the Nan Angmar with your mighty armies. That will be news indeed. Until then Hezekiah shout your defiance from the ramparts. I will listen in silence.
Regards
What you still fishing in game your Buds are Losing from me! How amny characters Died this last turn… How many coms waiting around to be killed In Angmar garrisoning MT’s in mountains… How many armies does WM have… How much of a Drain to the FP are the WM now… what’s his Victory total 400! can’t be any higher than that… Well mines well over 400 LOL…
And poor agrleb dies this turn. As for your assesment of my player skills… Keep them… Maybe you should plan and coordinate a real attack on 2305 and put me in my place if your good enough! Otherwise keep to some facts you do know about! Another thing nobody intimidates me or can take me out of my game… You came on here talking trash to me in a game your not even playing… so look for me when I on the other side when you can do something to me In game!
But just to answer one of your questions I am where I am becuase of both My skill and team support… But I wasn’t here From the start… It’s taken both player skill and team support to get this nation off the ropes! To thwart this second assualt on my capitol… That Buys the very time required to Win this game for Circle becuase not Mordor is safe! No arthy Wm or sinda support can come until Mirkwood is under control… at situation Has gotton worse not better Since I took over WK! Those are the simple Facts! Side show has began the downfall of Team Simpsons shoe win to a definite Loss! Nothing you can say here will change it Now… Becuase Now the Flattened Market Hurts the FP more than the DS!:bash:
OK Argeleb dies this turn got it.
Sinda and Woodmen must be tied down dealing with you, got it.
OK your victory points are higher than 400 got it (still did not say anything about the trending line).
OK you are defeating the Free.
I’ll wait and see what you do in the upcoming turn to terrorize the Woodmen. As for your other claims that will have to wait as well.
I’m not talking trash Terry, I am making fun of you.
Until next turn then
… and where is Bain?
You’ve forgotten to mention the dead dwarven-king!
Have Fun!
Gixxx
Bradden, Terry,
it’s a game not a personal war!
So please be well on the ground and put down the (s)words!
“Rattling” belongs to the business, so please don’t take it too serious.
Have Fun!
Gixxx
Well no need for me to say anything seems like it all kicked off without me doing anything! To the victor will go the spoils on this one.
Hey my middle name is “Victor”, gimme, gimme, gimme Take it lite boys it’s just a game, 
That we pay tons of money, and spend tons of time, and wait with great anticipation for our turn results, and forget about our families and friends, and some of us even dress up as our favorite char’s as we do our turn, not me though, but all in all, it’s still fun, so keep it that way :),
Gixx don’t worry about me I’m not taking things to heart. I am just having fun yanking Terry’s chain. He’ll get his chance to have at me when you get the rematch going at the end of this game.
Frank, I didn’t know you were in this game. Well if you’re a replacement it would explain some of the comeback for the DS in this game.
Seems like the DS Circle has reinvented itself whilst on the fly in this game. Good job Gixx; I still think you will be defeated eventually, but this game has a lot of fighting left in it I am sure.
Terry like Gixx advised realize this is a game. I am only poking fun at the persona you present in this thread. I don’t know you personally so there is nothing personal in my picking at your posts. So far you have made it easy for me to yank your chain, but that is all I am doing. I am insulting and eviscerating the “Mouth of Sauron” not you personally.
Regards
Brad
Darn just been reading your companion and have several comments to make but wonder if I should talk about them when you can use them against me!
Still should be fun kicking someone none the less.
It’s my companion Frank. Feel free to add more items at your leisure, PM or Email will work.
Well plenty of leisure time!
Anyone want to confess as to what they are playing so I can beat, threaten and tell them what I plan to do to them. Just to see if they can stop it!