A question:
In a 4th age game where there are neutral teams it is assumed these
neutrals will remain neutral and cannot change allegience.
Are these nations identified as belonging to a team to the other
nations involved in that particular game? Surely Free and DS nations
would not look at a teamed neutral as a true neutral but as a third
allegience altogether.
And I assume the impetus is on these teamed neutrals to attempt to
sway the other neutrals to their cause.
Thanks in advance to any with experience in these matters.
Greg
In Game 142 a Neutral team consisting of the NK and two other nations was identified to the players at large in the frontsheet -- the nations themselves were not identified, but the players playing them were identified as a Neutral team that could not change allegiance. It was up to us to find out which of the Neutral nations were actually being played by those three players, which wasn't that difficult.
What it DID lead to, actually, was some nations of other allegiances deciding to cross the lines aof Allegiance restrictions, actually -- we ended up forming a coalition centered on those Neutral nations but including members of both FP and DS nature. An odd situation -- one that some of the other players protested by dropping -- but one which is not technically against either the specific rules nor the original design intent of 4th Age, which after all does allow nations of the same Allegiance to Dislike one another and engage in combat. But it is indeed a circumstance that is unlikely in general, and moreso when the default assumption of the bulk of the current games is that nations of the same Allegiance will work together towards an Allegiance victory.
Anyway, as noted, the players on that team were identified as such, and a little diplomacy was all it took to determine which nations they were -- then it was indeed up to those players to persuade others to join them in their cause, since they could not join any other cause officially.
-- Ernie Hakey III
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Subject: [mepbmlist] 4th Age neutrals
A question:
In a 4th age game where there are neutral teams it is assumed these
neutrals will remain neutral and cannot change allegience.
Are these nations identified as belonging to a team to the other
nations involved in that particular game? Surely Free and DS nations
would not look at a teamed neutral as a true neutral but as a third
allegience altogether.
And I assume the impetus is on these teamed neutrals to attempt to
sway the other neutrals to their cause.
Thanks in advance to any with experience in these matters.
Greg
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In a 4th age game where there are neutral teams it is assumed these
neutrals will remain neutral and cannot change allegience.
They are not allowed to change. I've allowed 2 players to join as non-Kingdom neutrals and allowed them to change but that was for old games, now I don't allow that.
Are these nations identified as belonging to a team to the other
nations involved in that particular game? Surely Free and DS nations
would not look at a teamed neutral as a true neutral but as a third
allegience altogether.
Correct.
And I assume the impetus is on these teamed neutrals to attempt to
sway the other neutrals to their cause.
Yes
Clint
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Very clear. Many thanks Clint!
Also, any clear picture on when the 1st turns for 146 will be sent
out?
Greg
>In a 4th age game where there are neutral teams it is assumed these
>neutrals will remain neutral and cannot change allegience.
They are not allowed to change. I've allowed 2 players to join as
non-Kingdom neutrals and allowed them to change but that was for
old games,
now I don't allow that.
>Are these nations identified as belonging to a team to the other
>nations involved in that particular game? Surely Free and DS
nations
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>would not look at a teamed neutral as a true neutral but as a third
>allegience altogether.
Correct.
>And I assume the impetus is on these teamed neutrals to attempt to
>sway the other neutrals to their cause.
Yes
Clint
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