Adding a new spell

Halex13 · September 26, 2002, 6:13pm

How about;

1) Teleport Character spell; Be able to send a Char. of any Nation to any land hex on the map. For example; Battle at Goblin Gate, enemy CO that just won't die, send him to Khand-land. Or you need to wack someone across the map send a Super Agent via teleport,

2) Strengthen Character spell; Be able to +25 to any rank that a character already has for a turn or two,

3) Alchemy spell; Be able to turn one commodity into another, , with limits of course.

Spells should require the possession of a specific arty,

Paul Moreno

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From: benmin18
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In the past much has been made of mage being the weakest class/skill
a character can possess. Granted, locating, revealing, and cursing
are VERY powerful things, but they do take time to develop. But to
make mages even more valuable, I was wondering what the odds were of
adding a new spell?

What I was thinking of was a reveal character spell that would allow
a mage to know all the names of characters in the hex the mage is
currently occupying. Unlike the scout character order which can
reveal name, nation, title, and give false info, the reveal spell for
mages would ONLY reveal character names and no other information.

The spell would fall under the Reveal line and be a hard spell. I
think something like this would help both sides and make mages much
more valuable characters for scouting purposes and give them
something else to do.

- Ben

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57dun · September 26, 2002, 6:19pm

You mean like, stone walls into putty...?

Brad

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--- Paul Moreno <pmoreno407@msn.com> wrote:

How about;
3) Alchemy spell; Be able to turn one commodity into another, ,
with limits of course.

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Halex13 · September 26, 2002, 6:29pm

--- In mepbmlist@y..., Player <pbmnoot@y...> wrote:

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--- Paul Moreno <pmoreno407@m...> wrote:

> How about;
> 3) Alchemy spell; Be able to turn one commodity into another, ,
> with limits of course.

You mean like, stone walls into putty...?

Brad

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More like timber into food, LOL

Halex13 · September 26, 2002, 6:32pm

--- In mepbmlist@y..., Player <pbmnoot@y...> wrote:

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--- Paul Moreno <pmoreno407@m...> wrote:

> How about;
> 3) Alchemy spell; Be able to turn one commodity into another, ,
> with limits of course.

You mean like, stone walls into putty...?

Brad

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More like timber into food, LOL

wolf · September 26, 2002, 7:33pm

I like this idea. To expand on it, how about a whole new spell class:

Alchemy Spells:

--Lesser Transmutation. Difficulty: Easy. Transmute one commodity
into another at a rate of 3-to-1. (i.e. 3 food = 1 steel.)

---Transmutation. Difficulty: Average. Transmute one commodity into
another at a rate of 2-to-1. (i.e. 2 bronze = 1 leather.)

---Greater Transmutation. Difficulty: Hard. Transmute one commodity
into another at a rate of 1-to-1. (i.e. 1 timber = 1 mount.)

Chris Wolf

--- In mepbmlist@y..., "cabal132002" <pmoreno407@m...> wrote:

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--- In mepbmlist@y..., Player <pbmnoot@y...> wrote:
> --- Paul Moreno <pmoreno407@m...> wrote:
>
> > How about;
> > 3) Alchemy spell; Be able to turn one commodity into another, ,
> > with limits of course.
>
> You mean like, stone walls into putty...?
>
> Brad
>
>
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More like timber into food, LOL

Laurence_G_Tilley · September 26, 2002, 7:38pm

GWC into McDonalds voucher?

Laurence G. Tilley

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At 19:29 26/09/2002, you wrote:

--- In mepbmlist@y..., Player <pbmnoot@y...> wrote:
> --- Paul Moreno <pmoreno407@m...> wrote:
> > 3) Alchemy spell; Be able to turn one commodity into another, ,
> > with limits of course.
> You mean like, stone walls into putty...?
> Brad
More like timber into food, LOL

Chris · September 26, 2002, 7:43pm

This sounds like the game of Settlers.

I would agree that Mages take quite a bit of effort for a minimal
value.

ex. Curse squad = 3 chars to kill 1 vs 1 agent
Offense/defense spells = worth little more than 1 turn's
recruitment
Locate spells = useful for finding agents (most powerful class)
or finding artifacts to make your own agents stronger.

Just my quick 2 cents worth...

--- In mepbmlist@y..., "wolfandco" <cswolf@m...> wrote:

Alchemy Spells:

--Lesser Transmutation. Difficulty: Easy. Transmute one commodity
into another at a rate of 3-to-1. (i.e. 3 food = 1 steel.)

---Transmutation. Difficulty: Average. Transmute one commodity

into

another at a rate of 2-to-1. (i.e. 2 bronze = 1 leather.)

---Greater Transmutation. Difficulty: Hard. Transmute one

commodity

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into another at a rate of 1-to-1. (i.e. 1 timber = 1 mount.)

benmin183 · September 26, 2002, 7:44pm

1 to 1 is too much. Could you imagine taking thousands of food and
making mithril? That'd be insane.

If anything it should be different ratios or certain goods can be
transmuted into certain other goods at set ratios.

- Ben

--- In mepbmlist@y..., "wolfandco" <cswolf@m...> wrote:

I like this idea. To expand on it, how about a whole new spell

class:

Alchemy Spells:

--Lesser Transmutation. Difficulty: Easy. Transmute one commodity
into another at a rate of 3-to-1. (i.e. 3 food = 1 steel.)

---Transmutation. Difficulty: Average. Transmute one commodity

into

another at a rate of 2-to-1. (i.e. 2 bronze = 1 leather.)

---Greater Transmutation. Difficulty: Hard. Transmute one

commodity

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into another at a rate of 1-to-1. (i.e. 1 timber = 1 mount.)

Chris Wolf

Aravan · September 26, 2002, 10:18pm

WAY too POWERFUL... hmm turn my 10,000 food that sells for 1 into 10,000
Mithril..

wolfandco wrote:

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I like this idea. To expand on it, how about a whole new spell class:

Alchemy Spells:

--Lesser Transmutation. Difficulty: Easy. Transmute one commodity
into another at a rate of 3-to-1. (i.e. 3 food = 1 steel.)

---Transmutation. Difficulty: Average. Transmute one commodity into
another at a rate of 2-to-1. (i.e. 2 bronze = 1 leather.)

---Greater Transmutation. Difficulty: Hard. Transmute one commodity
into another at a rate of 1-to-1. (i.e. 1 timber = 1 mount.)

Chris Wolf

--- In mepbmlist@y..., "cabal132002" <pmoreno407@m...> wrote:
> --- In mepbmlist@y..., Player <pbmnoot@y...> wrote:
> > --- Paul Moreno <pmoreno407@m...> wrote:
> >
> > > How about;
> > > 3) Alchemy spell; Be able to turn one commodity into another, ,
> > > with limits of course.
> >
> > You mean like, stone walls into putty...?
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
>
> More like timber into food, LOL

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wolf · September 27, 2002, 3:28am

Point taken. Still think it's a good idea, given some tweaking.

Chris Wolf

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Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Adding a new spell

1 to 1 is too much. Could you imagine taking thousands of food and
making mithril? That'd be insane.

If anything it should be different ratios or certain goods can be
transmuted into certain other goods at set ratios.

- Ben

--- In mepbmlist@y..., "wolfandco" <cswolf@m...> wrote:
> I like this idea. To expand on it, how about a whole new spell
class:
>
> Alchemy Spells:
>
> --Lesser Transmutation. Difficulty: Easy. Transmute one commodity
> into another at a rate of 3-to-1. (i.e. 3 food = 1 steel.)
>
> ---Transmutation. Difficulty: Average. Transmute one commodity
into
> another at a rate of 2-to-1. (i.e. 2 bronze = 1 leather.)
>
> ---Greater Transmutation. Difficulty: Hard. Transmute one
commodity
> into another at a rate of 1-to-1. (i.e. 1 timber = 1 mount.)
>
> Chris Wolf
>

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Laurence_G_Tilley · September 27, 2002, 6:17am

You'd just have to index link it. So, if on a given turn Food was selling at 1, Bronze 1, Steel 2, Mithril 40, the Hard level 1:1 spell would let you transmute 400 Food into 400 Bronze, 200 Steel or 10 Mithril. (Perhaps 2/3rds that for the average and 1/3rd for the easy level spell).

It would add a new dimension to playing the market, as mages could attempt to transmute to the product for which a price rise is anticipated.

But the image of transmuting food to mithril feels wrong to me. I could live with a "transmute metals" spell.

Laurence G. Tilley

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At 04:28 27/09/2002, you wrote:

Point taken. Still think it's a good idea, given some tweaking.

Richard_DEVEREUX1 · September 27, 2002, 9:44am

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  Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 7:29 PM
  Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Adding a new spell

  > --- Paul Moreno <pmoreno407@m...> wrote:
  >
  > > How about;
  > > 3) Alchemy spell; Be able to turn one commodity into another, ,
  > > with limits of course.
  >
  > You mean like, stone walls into putty...?
  >
  > Brad
  >
  >
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More like timber into food, LOL
RD: this would be the ancient equivelant of MRE issued to today's armies, "Meals Ready to Eat" but ungratefully known by the troops as "Meals Rejected by Ethiopians."

Richard.

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Richard_DEVEREUX1 · September 27, 2002, 9:52am

1 to 1 is too much. Could you imagine taking thousands of food and
making mithril? That'd be insane.

If anything it should be different ratios or certain goods can be
transmuted into certain other goods at set ratios.

- Ben
RD: Why a set ratio? Why not make the exchange rate at least 1 point higher than the market, to prevent a player using this spell simply to make a quick monetary gain by selling the following turn?

Richard.

  --- In mepbmlist@y..., "wolfandco" <cswolf@m...> wrote:
  > I like this idea. To expand on it, how about a whole new spell
  class:
  >
  > Alchemy Spells:
  >
  > --Lesser Transmutation. Difficulty: Easy. Transmute one commodity
  > into another at a rate of 3-to-1. (i.e. 3 food = 1 steel.)
  >
  > ---Transmutation. Difficulty: Average. Transmute one commodity
  into
  > another at a rate of 2-to-1. (i.e. 2 bronze = 1 leather.)
  >
  > ---Greater Transmutation. Difficulty: Hard. Transmute one
  commodity
  > into another at a rate of 1-to-1. (i.e. 1 timber = 1 mount.)
  >
  > Chris Wolf
  >

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Richard_DEVEREUX1 · September 27, 2002, 10:16am

You'd just have to index link it. So, if on a given turn Food was selling
  at 1, Bronze 1, Steel 2, Mithril 40, the Hard level 1:1 spell would let you
  transmute 400 Food into 400 Bronze, 200 Steel or 10 Mithril. (Perhaps
  2/3rds that for the average and 1/3rd for the easy level spell).

It would add a new dimension to playing the market, as mages could attempt
to transmute to the product for which a price rise is anticipated.

But the image of transmuting food to mithril feels wrong to me. I could
live with a "transmute metals" spell.

  Laurence G. Tilley
  RD: I could live with spells transmuting leather, timber or mounts to food and vice versa.
  I could live with base metals into gold, which is what alchemy is all about. But metals into food? I can't swallow that (sorry about the pun). Although, it would account for how Dwarves manage to eat so well in mountains which produce no food!
  I don't think we should be able to transmute anything into mithril, which is supposed to be desperately rare and precious, and is far too common in the game as it is.

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At 04:28 27/09/2002, you wrote:
>Point taken. Still think it's a good idea, given some tweaking.