Artifacts and spells in battle vs pc

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#1

Sorry to be a persisitent pain......but from what your saying then dragons
(as NPCs) with armies don't ever attack enemy pop centers ? Only the
actually troops of the army partake ?

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-----Original Message-----
From: G. W. Tallen [mailto:btallen@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: 27 March 2001 15:49
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Artifacts and spells in battle vs pc

I believe (less than 100% confidence) that the training, morale, and command
boosts are not accrued until all combat for the turn is completed. I am
very sure, from discussions with the old GSI crew, that the spells, arties,
and NPC's affect only the first combat of the turn (i.e. the army combat if
there is one), and only in the first round of that combat. And yes, the
attacking force's losses in the army combat do take effect before the pc
combat...

----- Original Message -----
From: LBear <ditletang@canada.com>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Artifacts and spells in battle vs pc

Capture/Destroy Pop

Army vs Army first. You kill the army, then whatever is left goes
for the pop centre.

Are you saying that:

This army is stacked in the program against the pop center with NO
changes excepting that the troop numbers are reduced? No training
for the troops successful combat? No increased moral? No increased
command rank? In other words, just another round of combat with a
new defense (pop centre)? Thus, no effect of spells, arties, Woses,
dragons, etc...?

Sounds right........

bb

On Tue, 27 March 2001, "G. W. Tallen" wrote:

>
> Exactly right. Any army combat in the hex will take the full effect of
> spells and artifacts (NPC's too, if present, which of course includes
> dragons!) in its first round, and none of the above will affect the pc
> combat. Just make sure the sacrificial army is large enough not to be
> overrun when the enemy enters the hex -- which if you pc has

fortifications

> to add in, won't take much.
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 12:30 AM
> Subject: [mepbmlist] Artifacts and spells in battle vs pc
>
>
> > Someone refresh my memory.
> >
> > if enemy army w/spells and combat art attack to capture your pc w/a
> defensive
> > army on it, do the spells and artifacts hit for only ONE round of

battle?

> > ie. count only in first round vs the army?
> >
> > so the army "soaks up" the effect of the offensive (and defensive?)

spells

> > and artifacts and thus when the enemy army attacks to capture the pc

(same

> > turn that defensive army dies), they are attacking "without" the magic

and

> > artifacts"?
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#2

No, dragons or other NPC's with an army DO take part in attacks on pop
centers, but only if there is no army combat in the same turn. NPC's, just
like combat spells and combat artifacts, only get factored into the first
combat in their hex in a given turn. So, if you march to an enemy pc, with
a dragon in your army, and find a defending army there -- order Attack Enemy
only, don't attack the pop center unless your army will be able to take the
losses from army combat and still be strong enough to take the pop center --
WITHOUT the dragon. If your army alone is not that strong, just kill his
army, and wait til the following turn to attack the pop center. Your enemy
may try to counter you by hiring a new army in the hex, so that once again
your dragon will not affect the pop center combat. This works -- but
becomes expensive.

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----- Original Message -----
From: McGoldrick, Brendan <mcgoldrickb@logica.com>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 8:04 AM
Subject: RE: [mepbmlist] Artifacts and spells in battle vs pc

Sorry to be a persisitent pain......but from what your saying then dragons
(as NPCs) with armies don't ever attack enemy pop centers ? Only the
actually troops of the army partake ?

-----Original Message-----
From: G. W. Tallen [mailto:btallen@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: 27 March 2001 15:49
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Artifacts and spells in battle vs pc

I believe (less than 100% confidence) that the training, morale, and

command

boosts are not accrued until all combat for the turn is completed. I am
very sure, from discussions with the old GSI crew, that the spells,

arties,

and NPC's affect only the first combat of the turn (i.e. the army combat

if

there is one), and only in the first round of that combat. And yes, the
attacking force's losses in the army combat do take effect before the pc
combat...

----- Original Message -----
From: LBear <ditletang@canada.com>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Artifacts and spells in battle vs pc

> Capture/Destroy Pop
>
> Army vs Army first. You kill the army, then whatever is left goes
> for the pop centre.
>
> Are you saying that:
>
> This army is stacked in the program against the pop center with NO
> changes excepting that the troop numbers are reduced? No training
> for the troops successful combat? No increased moral? No increased
> command rank? In other words, just another round of combat with a
> new defense (pop centre)? Thus, no effect of spells, arties, Woses,
> dragons, etc...?
>
> Sounds right........
>
> bb
>
>
> On Tue, 27 March 2001, "G. W. Tallen" wrote:
>
> >
> > Exactly right. Any army combat in the hex will take the full effect

of

> > spells and artifacts (NPC's too, if present, which of course includes
> > dragons!) in its first round, and none of the above will affect the pc
> > combat. Just make sure the sacrificial army is large enough not to be
> > overrun when the enemy enters the hex -- which if you pc has
fortifications
> > to add in, won't take much.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <RFmehl@aol.com>
> > To: <ditletang@canada.com>; <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 12:30 AM
> > Subject: [mepbmlist] Artifacts and spells in battle vs pc
> >
> >
> > > Someone refresh my memory.
> > >
> > > if enemy army w/spells and combat art attack to capture your pc w/a
> > defensive
> > > army on it, do the spells and artifacts hit for only ONE round of
battle?
> > > ie. count only in first round vs the army?
> > >
> > > so the army "soaks up" the effect of the offensive (and defensive?)
spells
> > > and artifacts and thus when the enemy army attacks to capture the pc
(same
> > > turn that defensive army dies), they are attacking "without" the

magic

and
> > > artifacts"?
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