I find the buy/sell manipulation in the econo sheet to be fine as is -- most
turns in most games I don't bother with it, but some turns are trickier than
others. Anyway, when I do use the sheet, it is often for the purpose of
comparing different combinations of sells and buys and so on, before I even
enter the orders themselves.
One feature I would like to see, however -- not sure how much work it would
be to add -- would be some extra lines in the econo sheet for bids as opposed
to buys -- i.e. one line for quantity and one line for price per unit that
you are offering. Currently in order to represent a bid you either have to do
the math yourself and add that in to the separate box for orders cost or else
change the "price" to equal the bid you are making. And the latter doesn't
work if you are doing both a bid and a buy. It is also possible to bid
multiple times at different prices -- but that is pretty rare, doesn't warrant
even more lines. But bidding itself happens often enough, especially when
players are doing market manipulation, that it deserves its own line. The default
price could be +1 to normal buy price as that is the minimum allowable bid,
and the player could change that while experimenting with his amounts and
such without altering the base price of the product. Anyway, I have on occasion
made a bid in one location and a buy in another -- for example when I really
needed food for one army for movement that and wanted to buy food into
another as well but in that case it was not so urgent that it required a bid. So
a separate line for bids would allow both bids and buys to be entered in that
section.
A separate line for bids would also help with respect to 20% buy/sell SNA --
that does affect normal buys but not bids, so if you have that SNA, changing
the buy price to reflect a bid gets even more complicated as you to increase
the value to the amount of the bid x 5/4 so that when the program
automatically multiplies the cost by 80% you end up actually seeing the total that the
bid will cost you... But with a separate line for bids, you would simply not
apply the SNA's affect to the bid value in the formula -- and you could
really see the difference immediately between a buy and a bid if you entered the
same quantity for both, and take your pick as to which served your purpose
better.
Thanks for devoting more time and effort to this!
-- Ernie III
P.S. -- One thing that occasionally bugs me a bit is that in the artifacts
sheet, some of the skill and stealth artifact values are not the "middle" value
-- each has a range of possible values, i.e. X, X+5 and X-5, and it would be
nice if the values were occasionally updated for the actual middle values
when they become known. For example Miramarth is a +10, +15 or +20 agent item
-- back in the earliest days of 1650 before the artifacts got some randomness
added it was always a +15 item -- so the Artifact list should put it at +15,
not at +10. I do realize some items have not been fully scoped out by
everyone (or at any rate that you don't necessarily have all the info), but if you
are willing to update some of them that would be great. The ones I know
have listings different from the original 1650 values are:
Ring of Impersonation -- should be +25, is listed at +30
Elenya -- should be +15, is listed at +20
Miramarth -- should be +15, is listed at +10
Helm of Isildur -- should be +20, is listed at +25
Talisman of Absorption -- should be +20, is listed at +15
Staff of the Wanderer -- should be +15, is listed at +20
And that's all for now -- thanks again! -- E3
In a message dated 9/28/2005 3:42:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,
mark@markjeffries.net writes:
Hi Mike,
Personally, I think it's better the way it is, as I can tinker with the
buy/sells right on the Econo sheet to see how it turns
out, but I'd like some opinions from you guys.
I agree, its very useful to tinker with the buys and sells on the econocalc.
You could have the initial entering of a buy/sell put an entry in the
econocalc but then you have synchronisation issues.
cheers
Mark
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