For my 20 cents worth. I think its like all in the orders. Its all in luck/level first.
For example if ypu can change relations at C32 then that Character will continue to (mostly) to change Realtions. If you fail at C60 for 2/3 plus turns you will most likely fail forever.
MEPBM appears to be "life-like" - you're either good at something or your not.
If you fail at any order (thats not automatic ofcourse) more than twice you'll never be good at it, no matter what your skill.
To make make my point - who gets more than 2 (or 3) chances tops to stuff up at work, no matter how high up the tree you are?
Cheers
Phil
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--- In mepbmlist@y..., ditletang@c... wrote:
> Wow....a couple of days off, and people get all wound up.....
>
> As for the c40 changing relations...I have personally out of
probablyI am in a game with Brad now and had a 41 commander fail to change
relations, on the other hand in same game I had a 80 commander
succesfully change relations and a 60 change relations also.I know
its an extreme difference, yes, but just trying to give you numbers.
In a seperate game however I did have a 39 and a 45 both successfully
upgrade and downgrade relations. It's just one of those things, a
guess I would have since relations orders are an easy order would be
to take your command skill as a % and add a little bit with 5% chance
of always failing. That seems about right for easy orders on a
whole. Average orders seem to be based exactly off of your skill.
Hard orders are always modified and sometimes by outside conditions.Bluecheese, <wwhhhd>
> 15 attempts, NEVER been able to affect relations with command
> characters of rank 40 or less. I see teammate's pdf's with c30's
> changing relations, but NOT ME. I have NEVER failed to affect
> relations with higher than 40 (haven't ever had a 41, but 42 and
up).
> EVER. Go figure. I am learning the rule book slowly, but the
180/185
> orders I'm way past, and do not bother, as a rule, with 40 or less.
>
> If you're playing in one of my games, I'm sure you'll succeed…
>
> bb
>
> — In mepbmlist@y…, "Draugnar" <Draugnar@o…> wrote:
> > I shouldn't have used coins. That was confusing. The idea was
that
> each
> > toss had a 50% chance of success, but if you need four (4) tosses
to
> all
> > come up heads, your odds are only 1 in 16. And if you and your
> opponent are
> > both trying to downgrade, you want your opponent to fail while
you
> succeed,
> > then at 75% for both of you, then your odds are 3 in 16 of
getting
> the
> > desired result, 3 in 16 of getting worse than the desired result
> (your
> > opponent gets what they want), 10 in 16 that no significant
change
> occurs (1
> > in 16 neither of you downgrade, and 9 in 16 both of you do).
> >
> > Sorry for the coin confusion. I was trying to explain the series
> concept,
> > but failed miserably…
> >
> > Draugnar
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wilson Reis [mailto:will@i…]
> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 3:49 PM
> > To: mepbmlist@y…
> > Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Chance of 40 C downgrading?
> >
> > Gosh, what are you talking about ?
> >
> > Coins ? It's always 50-50, i am sorry.
> >
> > The past events do not interfere !
> >
> > If it's about "seeding", i MAY agree, but that might mean, on the
> other
> > hand, that if the seed
> > "helps" one commander, it will help others…
> >
> > Never happened to notice some weird turns, where almost all 690
> orders
> > failed (on both sides) ?
> > That's what i would call "seeding" problems, but then it would
never
> worsen
> > the chances of
> > downgrading relations based on sucesses that happened in that
same
> turn…
> >
> > Sorry for my strange english, i hope i made myself clear.
> >
> > Meus dois centavos
> > WillMiddle Earth PBM List - Middle Earth and Harlequin Games
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