Customer Service

Mike, I don't object to a price increase. Even a price increase with less service. But, a price increase because Harley has inflicted a lot of administrative burdens on itself is not OK. That is called lack of foresight and planning.

Want an example? This Player Rating System and Council of the Wise business. Started over a year ago and created a lot of turmoil, hate and discontent. I did not participate in that particular discussion. Just a few dozen postings ago Clint advises that the PRS is still not up and running. Now, does the PRS improve Harley's bottom line? No. Does it burn up Harley's manpower? Yes. Should the membership pay for what is essentially someone's love child/hobby? No.
Ed Mills

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From: "Urzahil" <urzahil@darkfortress.us>
Reply-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [mepbmlist] Customer Service
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:44:46 -0600

YOW. Just how many little extra features would you require to have free
before you'd accept a price increase as fair, rather than 'penny
pinching'?

Hey, I think it would be great to be able to play the game for a
buck-a-turn, but MeGames has added a TON of features to this game so far
with very little price increase. At some point, any business would be
required to stop adding 'free' features and say "Can't add anymore
without raising the price".

"Penny pinching"? I think it's just reality. (At least as far as it
applies to a fantasy game.) :wink:

Mike Mulka

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Laurence G. Tilley [mailto:laurence@lgtilley.freeserve.co.uk]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 7:28 PM
>To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [mepbmlist] Customer Service
>
>At 19:02 26/11/2003, Middle Earth PBM Games wrote:
>> >Few people are too happy about the surcharging for little extras
like
>> special
>> >setups.
>>
>>But the argument is - if you want us to do more work you as the
customer
>>have to pay for it in some manner.
>
>I wondered if you's pick that out from my words on the One Nation
>thread. My point really, is an observational one, it's that you very
>frequently now respond with "we'd have to charge more" whenever someone
>makes a suggestion, it even, as here, seems to be your first
instinctive
>rhetorical response to your own suggestion.
>
>I realise that sometimes you've said this jokingly, but I'm finding it
>repeated just a little too often for comfort. It makes you come across
as
>penny pinching. And (though the chorus of cheerleaders will arise now
to
>start raa raa raaing about what good value for money the game is) I
don't
>think I'm the only one who's beginning to get that kind of perception.
>
>Not so long ago, you were asking about "customer service". For me,
good
>customer service is about what a company does for me cheerfully, it's
>about "little extras," which make my experience as a customer more
pleasant
>not about finding innumerable little extras tagged onto the end of my
>bill. If in my dealings with a company I start to get the impression
that
>they're always trying to squeeze a little bit more out of me (as
admittedly
>so many do) I rank them as ordinary rather than good.
>
>mefacesmo.gif
> Laurence G.Tilley

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From: Ovatha Easterling [mailto:ovatha88@hotmail.com]
Want an example? This Player Rating System and Council of the Wise
business. Started over a year ago and created a lot of turmoil, hate

and

discontent. I did not participate in that particular discussion. Just

a

few dozen postings ago Clint advises that the PRS is still not up and
running. Now, does the PRS improve Harley's bottom line? No. Does it
burn
up Harley's manpower? Yes. Should the membership pay for what is
essentially someone's love child/hobby? No.
Ed Mills

Ed,

By "love child/hobby", do you mean something that the majority of
players said they would like to see?

The PRS came after several discussions, questions, and surveys told
MeGames that the majority wanted it. (Though there was indeed much hate
and discontent, it was apparently from a very vocal minority.) I don't
mean to rehash old issues. I'm just saying that if the majority of your
customers want something, then it just makes good sense to try to give
it to them.

As far as us paying for it, I don't recall a price increase lately. (If
there was one, I didn't notice it anyway.) So, the PRS hasn't cost me a
cent. If you meant that we're 'paying' for it because MeGames resources
are stretched, I haven't noticed a decline in service either. (Just the
opposite, in fact.) I'd be willing to bet that it has most likely taken
so long to implement just because MeGames doesn't want their service to
suffer in other areas.

I heartily welcome attempts to improve the game. (If it doesn't work
out, then the players can voice their discontent and get it changed
back... as long as it's a majority that want the change, it shouldn't be
a problem.)

As for price increases, or different prices for different nations, I'm
not really sure where this will end up, (or where I'd personally like it
to end up), but at least it got the list fired up again.

Mike Mulka

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-----Original Message-----

Urzahil wrote:

The PRS came after several discussions, questions, and surveys told
MeGames that the majority wanted it.

Let's see... 400 players (?), about a dozen in favour of the PRS according
to this list... Some majority.

Gavin

You seem to have forgotten the many times Clint stated that he received
many E-Mails from people directly (off-list) in favor of the PRS. They
probably didn't want to post to the list because the 'vocal minority'
were trashing anyone who posted in favor of it at the time. (That seems
all too prevalent, unfortunately.)

Mike

From: Gavinwj [mailto:gavinwj@compuserve.com]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 3:45 AM
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Customer Service

Urzahil wrote:

The PRS came after several discussions, questions, and surveys told
MeGames that the majority wanted it.

Let's see... 400 players (?), about a dozen in favour of the PRS

according

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-----Original Message-----
to this list... Some majority.

Gavin

damn that vocal minority...i bet they are bugs too!

d

You seem to have forgotten the many times Clint stated that he

received

many E-Mails from people directly (off-list) in favor of the PRS.

They

probably didn't want to post to the list because the 'vocal

minority'

were trashing anyone who posted in favor of it at the time. (That

seems

all too prevalent, unfortunately.)

Mike

>From: Gavinwj [mailto:gavinwj@c…]
>Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 3:45 AM
>To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Customer Service
>
>Urzahil wrote:
>
>> The PRS came after several discussions, questions, and surveys

told

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--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Urzahil" <urzahil@d...> wrote:

>-----Original Message-----
>> MeGames that the majority wanted it.
>
>Let's see... 400 players (?), about a dozen in favour of the PRS
according
>to this list... Some majority.
>
>Gavin