Define Boring

Ah yes, the "Football" argument spanning an ocean....or
Oceans.....

1-people think differently. I hate cabbage. Other's don't.
If this was Northern Ireland, we'd be disagreeing over our
taste in cabbage for generations, killing thousands.....

2-Football (American "Soccer") is the most popular sport
in the world. That is because it is the cheapest to play.
Thusly, supporters of Football a) follow the herd b) are too
cheap to play real games that require infrastructure and
equipment and finally c). Complexity is a mark of higher
civilization, no? I think certain reputed fan behavior at
certain types of "sporting matches" is evidence of that...

If this sounds like I'm slapping down snooty Soccer fans, well,
maybe. But then, Americans take Their "Football" seriously.....
That's enough to support the Sex-to-Brains play on words
of an earlier post, as far as I'm concerned...

As for the American ascendancy in the world vs Britain's
whining jealousy regarding their decayed/lost empire...well,
the bigger you are the harder you fall, no? Spiteful, they
who take the innocent down with them...

As a Canadian, I can smugly justify the previous statements,
in that I play ice hockey, the most technical/expense requiring
team sport, I hardly take it as seriously as Enion's useless
underlings, my nation has never had and never will have an
empire of any sort, and when my people disagree over their
taste in vegetables, the government steps into the crisis and
legislates and end to ALL vegetables, just so Everybody is
Equally offended...ah...true egalitarianism!

Have I dealt with the subject line yet?

Regards,

Brad Brunet on holidays...

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Ah yes, the "Football" argument spanning an ocean....or
Oceans.....

1-people think differently. I hate cabbage. Other's don't.
If this was Northern Ireland, we'd be disagreeing over our
taste in cabbage for generations, killing thousands.....

2-Football (American "Soccer") is the most popular sport
in the world. That is because it is the cheapest to play.
Thusly, supporters of Football a) follow the herd b) are too
cheap to play real games that require infrastructure and
equipment and finally c). Complexity is a mark of higher
civilization, no? I think certain reputed fan behavior at
certain types of "sporting matches" is evidence of that...

If this sounds like I'm slapping down snooty Soccer fans, well,
maybe. But then, Americans take Their "Football" seriously.....
That's enough to support the Sex-to-Brains play on words
of an earlier post, as far as I'm concerned...

As for the American ascendancy in the world vs Britain's
whining jealousy regarding their decayed/lost empire...well,
the bigger you are the harder you fall, no? Spiteful, they
who take the innocent down with them...

As a Canadian, I can smugly justify the previous statements,
in that I play ice hockey, the most technical/expense requiring
team sport, I hardly take it as seriously as Enion's useless
underlings, my nation has never had and never will have an
empire of any sort, and when my people disagree over their
taste in vegetables, the government steps into the crisis and
legislates and end to ALL vegetables, just so Everybody is
Equally offended...ah...true egalitarianism!

Have I dealt with the subject line yet?

Regards,

Brad Brunet on holidays...

RD: I cannot resist picking up both the gauntlets you have thrown down here,
Brad.

1) Football (soccer to Americans) may be popular because it is cheap. It
doesn't need sophisticated armour plate or titanium sticks. This is a GOOD
thing. It makes football accessible to the poorest people in the poorest
countries. All you need is a ball of any kind, and anything that will serve
as a pair of goalposts: trees, dustbins, screwed-up clothes, traffic cones,
chalk marks etc. Many players of the most successful football nation on
earth (Brazil) learned their trade kicking a ball barefoot around beaches
and streets. As a kid, I played with my schoolmates with a tiny plastic
ball on a tarmac pitch with goals only 3 feet wide. THAT called for skill
to score, altho we did at least have shoes!

One of the beauties of football is that ANY kid of any nation, rich or poor,
can aspire to play at the top level if he is good enough. You don't have to
have money to buy the equipment. Sure you can buy designer boots, but they
won't make you play any better if you haven't got talent to start with.

I find the idea that because a game is more expensive and/or complicated it
is better, ridiculous, arrogant and offensive.

Kids (of all ages!) play football on the streets, on the beaches and in any
open space of the world because they ENJOY it. THAT is the mark of a good
game, NOT how much it costs or how expensive it is. Finally, professional
football is viewed by a world-wide TV audience bigger - by a huge distance -
than any sport America (including Canada) has to offer. The most popular
game on the planet is also the best!

I wonder if Brad's viewpoint is influenced by sour grapes - after all Canada
has never even qualified for the World Cup, has it? There is only ONE
World Cup!

Regarding the empire/world domination question, I am puzzled. I find it
very hard to figure out how Britain gave away not just one empire (which
became the USA) but two (including the Indian subcontinent, most of Africa
and lots of other bits). Could it be that once upon a time, British
politicians actually had a social conscience?

I am currently working on an alternative history, where Britain never lost
or gave away a single one of her colonial possessions, conquered Europe
(which had united in protest at Britain's colonial supremacy) and Asia
(because it was there), established a benevolent but firm world government,
and went on to colonise the stars.

Richard.

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Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 7:55 AM
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eh, what's this?

Chretien would deny that there is vegetable crisis
and even if there was one he would blame the failed
policies of conservative John Turner for neglecting to

develop an appropriate federal vegetable taste
standard.

Duceppe would immediately decry the federal vegetable
taste standard as an offront to Quebec sovereignty.
Bouchard would label the whole vegetable "issue" a
right-wing current that is surging across Canada that
will crash and die against the walls of Quebec (we
like our veggies saucy and the rest of Canada shows
us no respect by eating their vegetables plain).

Joe Clark (ya gotta go to the Joe Clark vs. Ferris
Bueller WWWF ground zero web site to "get" Joe Clark
http://www.grudge-match.com/History/school.shtml)
would
attribute the vegetable crisis to another "Asian
invasion" (what the @$@!# are snow peas?!?).

Preston Manning would try to use the vegetable taste
crisis to scare western Canadians into supporting
another New Canada Act that will minimize the impact
French-speaking Canadians (who put too much sauce on
their vegetables anyway) have on setting a federal
vegetable agenda.

Alexa McDonough would oppose any cuts on federal
spending for vegetable taste inspectors and
scream loudly for an investigation into the evil
vegetable cartels that are promoting tasty vegetables
that clash with the palates of working-class cod
eaters.

Ralph Klein, Glen Clark, Gary Filmon, and Roy Romanow
will, as always, ignore the vegetable taste crisis as
another dumb-ass non-issue manufactured in Ottawa
that has nothing to do with their parts of Canada.

Ultimately, of course, Paul Martin will come up with
some way of cleverly taxing any tasty vegetable that
exceeds federal standards.

Joseph

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--- BBrunet <ditletang@canada.com> wrote:

when my people disagree over their taste in
vegetables, the government steps into the
crisis and legislates and end to ALL vegetables,
just so Everybody is Equally offended...ah...true
egalitarianism!

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RD: Don't know any of the people you mention, but it was an amusing read.

Richard.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Williams" <rhudaur@yahoo.com>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Define Boring

--- BBrunet <ditletang@canada.com> wrote:
> when my people disagree over their taste in
> vegetables, the government steps into the
> crisis and legislates and end to ALL vegetables,
> just so Everybody is Equally offended...ah...true
> egalitarianism!

eh, what's this?

Chretien would deny that there is vegetable crisis
and even if there was one he would blame the failed
policies of conservative John Turner for neglecting to

develop an appropriate federal vegetable taste
standard.

Duceppe would immediately decry the federal vegetable
taste standard as an offront to Quebec sovereignty.
Bouchard would label the whole vegetable "issue" a
right-wing current that is surging across Canada that
will crash and die against the walls of Quebec (we
like our veggies saucy and the rest of Canada shows
us no respect by eating their vegetables plain).

Joe Clark (ya gotta go to the Joe Clark vs. Ferris
Bueller WWWF ground zero web site to "get" Joe Clark
http://www.grudge-match.com/History/school.shtml)
would
attribute the vegetable crisis to another "Asian
invasion" (what the @$@!# are snow peas?!?).

Preston Manning would try to use the vegetable taste
crisis to scare western Canadians into supporting
another New Canada Act that will minimize the impact
French-speaking Canadians (who put too much sauce on
their vegetables anyway) have on setting a federal
vegetable agenda.

Alexa McDonough would oppose any cuts on federal
spending for vegetable taste inspectors and
scream loudly for an investigation into the evil
vegetable cartels that are promoting tasty vegetables
that clash with the palates of working-class cod
eaters.

Ralph Klein, Glen Clark, Gary Filmon, and Roy Romanow
will, as always, ignore the vegetable taste crisis as
another dumb-ass non-issue manufactured in Ottawa
that has nothing to do with their parts of Canada.

Ultimately, of course, Paul Martin will come up with
some way of cleverly taxing any tasty vegetable that
exceeds federal standards.

Joseph

Oops. Major brain freeze. Ignore that.

Joseph

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--- Joseph Williams <rhudaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

Joe Clark (ya gotta go to the Joe Clark vs. Ferris
Bueller WWWF ground zero web site to "get" Joe Clark
http://www.grudge-match.com/History/school.shtml)
would
attribute the vegetable crisis to another "Asian
invasion" (what the @$@!# are snow peas?!?).

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You don't need to travel to Northern Ireland to find someone who
disagrees with your taste in Cabbages - just pick a quarrel with the
Quebecois! :wink:

Ray

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Ah yes, the "Football" argument spanning an ocean....or
Oceans.....

1-people think differently. I hate cabbage. Other's don't.
If this was Northern Ireland, we'd be disagreeing over our
taste in cabbage for generations, killing thousands.....

2-Football (American "Soccer") is the most popular sport
in the world. That is because it is the cheapest to play.
Thusly, supporters of Football a) follow the herd b) are too
cheap to play real games that require infrastructure and
equipment and finally c). Complexity is a mark of higher
civilization, no? I think certain reputed fan behavior at
certain types of "sporting matches" is evidence of that...

If this sounds like I'm slapping down snooty Soccer fans, well,
maybe. But then, Americans take Their "Football" seriously.....
That's enough to support the Sex-to-Brains play on words
of an earlier post, as far as I'm concerned...

As for the American ascendancy in the world vs Britain's
whining jealousy regarding their decayed/lost empire...well,
the bigger you are the harder you fall, no? Spiteful, they
who take the innocent down with them...

As a Canadian, I can smugly justify the previous statements,
in that I play ice hockey, the most technical/expense requiring
team sport, I hardly take it as seriously as Enion's useless
underlings, my nation has never had and never will have an
empire of any sort, and when my people disagree over their
taste in vegetables, the government steps into the crisis and
legislates and end to ALL vegetables, just so Everybody is
Equally offended...ah...true egalitarianism!

Have I dealt with the subject line yet?

Regards,

Brad Brunet on holidays...

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