DELAYED PROCESSING OF GAME/S

Is it just me?, Of late, it seems that my Middle Earth turns are subject to delayed processing, Normally preceded by the generic, “waiting for one players orders…snip” email.

Some (sad?) peoples lives are set on a fourteen day cycle, like mine. Over a period of many years, as the addiction grows the only way to stave off the irritability / anxiety is to up the dosage.

As long as the dosage is maintained regularly, no long term damage should result… At the moment i can empathise how a junkie feels when his regular dealer gets nicked.

There was a time of day when house rules dictated that if a player hadn’t submitted orders and no shadow orders were to hand, said player would be special serviced. GSI were rigid to the extreme.

Sadly special service now seems to have a new meaning, like its okay to input your orders in late, we will wait for you, and keep all your allies / enemies waiting for their fix. I appreciate occasionally things go wrong, like servers going down, staff being ill etc but rules are rules.and should be adhered to.

Ok, rant over, queue Brad B, at least i will have something to chuckle about whilst i wait for my 41 fix to materialise, currently 16 days and counting… Now the coffee has run out too, and my nearest Star Bucks is over ten miles away!

Well said! I have the same “junkie” problem, and it’s
been difficult since they started running games so late in the
day.

(A second rant is that they have moved my Tuesday games to Wednesdays and
my Friday games to Thursdays, so I tend to have my timing cramped to get
orders for multiple games done all at once.)

Jeremy

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At 03:46 AM 2/1/2018, you wrote:

Is it just me?, Of late, it seems that my Middle Earth turns are subject
to delayed processing, Normally preceded by the generic, “waiting
for one players orders…snip” email.

Some (sad?) peoples lives are set on a fourteen day cycle, like mine.
Over a period of many years, as the addiction grows the only way to stave
off the irritability / anxiety is to up the dosage.

As long as the dosage is maintained regularly, no long term damage should
result… At the moment i can empathise how a junkie feels when his
regular dealer gets nicked.

There was a time of day when house rules dictated that if a player hadn’t
submitted orders and no shadow orders were to hand, said player would be
special serviced. GSI were rigid to the extreme.

Sadly special service now seems to have a new meaning, like its
okay to input your orders in late, we will wait for you, and keep
all your allies / enemies waiting for their fix. I appreciate
occasionally things go wrong, like servers going down, staff being ill
etc but rules are rules.and should be adhered to.

Ok, rant over, queue Brad B, at least i will have something to chuckle
about whilst i wait for my 41 fix to materialise, currently 16 days and
counting… Now the coffee has run out too, and my nearest Star Bucks
is over ten miles away!

I strongly prefer the delays to getting SS’d. It happens. One SS can dramatically alter the course of the game. Whether it’s player fault (procrastination) or not, the impact outweighs the practically intolerable pain of waiting a few hours.

“Instant gratification is not soon enough.” That doesn’t win the day for me on this argument.

ME Games, please ignore the whining.

b

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From: ajwr1ght@hotmail.com [mepbmlist]
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 2:46 AM
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mepbmlist] DELAYED PROCESSING OF GAME/S

Is it just me?, Of late, it seems that my Middle Earth turns are subject to delayed processing, Normally preceded by the generic, “waiting for one players orders…snip” email.

Some (sad?) peoples lives are set on a fourteen day cycle, like mine. Over a period of many years, as the addiction grows the only way to stave off the irritability / anxiety is to up the dosage.

As long as the dosage is maintained regularly, no long term damage should result… At the moment i can empathise how a junkie feels when his regular dealer gets nicked.

There was a time of day when house rules dictated that if a player hadn’t submitted orders and no shadow orders were to hand, said player would be special serviced. GSI were rigid to the extreme.

Sadly special service now seems to have a new meaning, like its okay to input your orders in late, we will wait for you, and keep all your allies / enemies waiting for their fix. I appreciate occasionally things go wrong, like servers going down, staff being ill etc but rules are rules.and should be adhered to.

Ok, rant over, queue Brad B, at least i will have something to chuckle about whilst i wait for my 41 fix to materialise, currently 16 days and counting… Now the coffee has run out too, and my nearest Star Bucks is over ten miles away!

I'm a little bit sad to say I think I've grown out of this addiction. I still
play and still like to play but if my turn is a bit late, it doesn't bother me
anymore.

David

PS, it might just be the games I'm currently playing but my turns seem to be
coming earlier these days.

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On 01 February 2018 at 15:06 "Benjamin Shushan bshushan@earthlink.net > [mepbmlist]" <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I strongly prefer the delays to getting SS’d. It happens. One SS can
dramatically alter the course of the game. Whether it’s player fault
(procrastination) or not, the impact outweighs the practically intolerable
pain of waiting a few hours.

“Instant gratification is not soon enough.” That doesn’t win the day for me
on this argument.

ME Games, please ignore the whining.

b

From: ajwr1ght@hotmail.com [mepbmlist]
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 2:46 AM
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mepbmlist] DELAYED PROCESSING OF GAME/S

Is it just me?, Of late, it seems that my Middle Earth turns are subject to
delayed processing, Normally preceded by the generic, "waiting for one players
orders.....snip" email.
Some (sad?) peoples lives are set on a fourteen day cycle, like mine. Over a
period of many years, as the addiction grows the only way to stave off the
irritability / anxiety is to up the dosage.
As long as the dosage is maintained regularly, no long term damage should
result.. At the moment i can empathise how a junkie feels when his regular
dealer gets nicked.
There was a time of day when house rules dictated that if a player hadn't
submitted orders and no shadow orders were to hand, said player would be
special serviced. GSI were rigid to the extreme.
Sadly special service now seems to have a new meaning, like its okay to input
your orders in late, we will wait for you, and keep all your allies / enemies
waiting for their fix. I appreciate occasionally things go wrong, like servers
going down, staff being ill etc but rules are rules.and should be adhered to.
Ok, rant over, queue Brad B, at least i will have something to chuckle about
whilst i wait for my 41 fix to materialise, currently 16 days and
counting...... Now the coffee has run out too, and my nearest Star Bucks is
over ten miles away!

Hi guys

We've changed the way we run things somewhat since I've taken it over. Rob would be in the in the morning, I'm generally in in the afternoon.

However, I generally do this part-time, so illness, funerals, family life, and other life things get in the way a little. But then I work in the evening more. Also the games that Andy is in have a tendency to have players "oh last minute" stuff I've found (more individual games are more like that). We're training up staff (and to be fair I've had to re-learn everything here including the old and the new systems).

SS turns generally destroy a game so I push more to get a player (or his team-mate) to get orders in so wait for that more. There's about an 80% chance that a player SS that game quickly dives into a concession.

"GSI were rigid to the extreme."
Yes I agree, they were and it caused a lot of drop-outs.

"but rules are rules.and should be adhered to."
Indeed, and we do, holding up processing until a turn comes in when a player says he will is a courtesy that we extend.

An example of us being strict was a certain player was on honeymoon - he came back and we had SSed his game. At that point he was playing 5 games and dropped them all. We had stuck to the rules, emailed and reminded the player and attempted to contact him, but all to no avail.

So I find that it's better to look after the player base, with the understanding that we will run if too delayed (some games have had that) but endeavour to be as helpful as we can. So in a perfect world all players would get their turns in on the DUE Date so that we can deal with any issues. (One relatively common one is a player sends in a turn from last set of orders not this one).

"(A second rant is that they have moved my Tuesday games to Wednesdays and my Friday games to Thursdays, so I tend to have my timing cramped to get orders for multiple games done all at once.)"

I do believe I emailed you all to ask if that would be a problem to which the one game where it was I kept it where it was, if you don't get back to me I can't help!

Well I recommend doing your turns earlier for the GB games (it's common for lots of GB players to do their orders when they get the game back as there's no diplomacy, and their non-GB games where there's lots of emails/chat back and fore to be more later in the cycle). Unfortunately I had 7 games running one day and none the other day so it was not advisable and meant that some other players were running 3 games on one day, which I think is not a good idea.

"ME Games, please ignore the whining."
We I won't ignore it as such as it's key that we look after all our player's concerns. That's not just hot air! So I hope I've explained why things are the way they are. We've spent a lot of time developing the game recently so although with Rob the turns were being processed early, little else was being done, now it's more of a juggle to make sure the guys have got their stuff to do for the day and that the turns are in then I get around to dealing with emails and (the phone just rang.... ) and responding to stuff like this. So I'm not presently running the turns... lol.

As an amusing, well for me, point, I do belive I might have contacted both Msrs Wright and Richman asking them to get their late orders in as well... lol. But I appreciate that life gets in the way and that turns are forgotten, put to the side or whaever so I've found that this system is working better atm, (from 11 games to 26 atm with 2 more on the way).

Clint

Is it just me?, Of late, it seems that my Middle Earth turns are subject to delayed processing, Normally preceded by the generic, "waiting for one players orders.....snip" email.

Some (sad?) peoples lives are set on a fourteen day cycle, like mine. Over a period of many years, as the addiction grows the only way to stave off the irritability / anxiety is to up the dosage.

As long as the dosage is maintained regularly, no long term damage should result.. At the moment i can empathise how a junkie feels when his regular dealer gets nicked.

There was a time of day when house rules dictated that if a player hadn't submitted orders and no shadow orders were to hand, said player would be special serviced. GSI were rigid to the extreme.

Sadly special service now seems to hav e a new meaning, like its okay to input your orders in late, we will wait for you, and keep all your allies / enemies waiting for their fix. I appreciate occasionally things go wrong, like servers going down, staff being ill etc but rules are rules.and should be adhered to.

Ok, rant over, queue Brad B, at least i will have something to chuckle about whilst i wait for my 41 fix to materialise, currently 16 days and counting...... Now the coffee has run out too, and my nearest Star Bucks is over ten miles away!

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True! Though that was for one of the games that had had its date moved back one day and I hadn't quite acclimated to it.

Jeremy

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At 11:37 AM 2/1/2018, you wrote:

As an amusing, well for me, point, I do belive I
might have contacted both Msrs Wright and Richman
asking them to get their late orders in as
well... lol. But I appreciate that life gets in
the way and that turns are forgotten, put to the
side or whaever so I've found that this system is
working better atm, (from 11 games to 26 atm with 2 more on the way).

Maybe... :slight_smile: LOL

C

>
>As an amusing, well for me, point, I do belive I
>might have contacted both Msrs Wright and Richman
>asking them to get their late orders in as
>well... lol. But I appreciate that life gets in
>the way and that turns are forgotten, put to the
>side or whaever so I've found that this system is
>working better atm, (from 11 games to 26 atm with 2 more on the way).

True! Though that was for one of the games that had had its date
moved back one day and I hadn't quite acclimated to it.

Jeremy

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At 01:31 02/02/2018, you wrote:

At 11:37 AM 2/1/2018, you wrote:

Clint,

Before I respond proper I need to say, overall I’m extremely satisfied with the service you and your team provide.

I’m aware that you have been working hard, (on many aspects of the ME platform) to improve the overall game experience for us, the players.

I too am aware, that Rob, is sorely missed, he was / is a “top drawer”, chap. Extremely difficult to replace his skill set. I hope he is doing well in his new pasture.

I’m guilty as charged on the getting orders in late, but add, always before process… I have only ever been special serviced once in decades of play, (there was a postal strike, i seem to remember) and it still gnaws at me now.

At one point, not to long ago, someone(Dean?) was updating the list with a games processing that day/next day…message, i thought at the time it was useful to jog the memories of players whose real lives are busier than their gaming lives.

I agree with other comments (& yours) that games can be ruined by one person being special serviced,. causing individuals or worse case, whole teams to drop, which is an unsatisfactory situation.

On reflection i would rather the game be processed later than not at all.

I don’t know how to address the situation fully, but perhaps one suggestion could be to issue the " we don’t appear to have your orders message" issued a day sooner, (certainly in games considered to be team games),

so that team mates can rattle cages, prepare shadow orders etc to stop delays.

Of course i realise that real emergencies do occur, and the odd delay acceptable. So on review, my initial whine (yes, red please) was perhaps unkind, but without the knowledge you so eloquently presented in your GM reply, (putting us in the picture, so to speak) warranted. Whine over, next bottle please.

Seems I spoke too soon when I said this hadn’t been an issue for me. I was due a turn on Friday. Nothing has arrived and there’s been no word to say why.

Have you been celebrating the rugby, Clint?

David

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Sorry explained in an email to you guys why this happened. All sorted but some confusion (and you'll see in the email why).

Clint

Seems I spoke too soon when I said this hadn’t been an issue for me. I was due a turn on Friday. Nothing has arrived and there’s been no word to say why.

Have you been celebrating the rugby, Clint?

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At 08:09 04/02/2018, you wrote:

At one point, not to long ago, someone(Dean?) was updating the list with a games processing that day/next day..message, i thought at the time it was useful to jog the memories of players whose real lives are busier than their gaming lives.

Well I send out an email the day before and on the day of processing, and if it's late, to the other players in your team, that covers it I think.

On reflection i would rather the game be processed later than not at all.

Yes that's my conclusion as well.

I don't know how to address the situation fully, but perhaps one suggestion could be to issue the " we don't appear to have your orders message" issued a day sooner, (certainly in games considered to be team games),

Well we do the day before hand! GB games really players should be getting their orders in earlier, but life gets in the way so that's fine. I'm not sure it helps more, but I'll ponder (I don't want to spam players with too many oi! get your turn in!)

so that team mates can rattle cages, prepare shadow orders etc to stop delays.
Of course i realise that real emergencies do occur, and the odd delay acceptable. So on review, my initial whine (yes, red please) was perhaps unkind, but without the knowledge you so eloquently presented in your GM reply, (putting us in the picture, so to speak) warranted. Whine over, next bot tle please.

Thanks Andy, appreciated, it's been a particularly hard week with 2 funerals, an entire day visit to the hospital with a daughter (all fine) missus, away and helping a friend do a charity event, along with planting trees!

Clint