Digest Number 1193

GOSH..!
Some people in life can never be happy.
*** Spoiler ***

the ENTS never went to Helms deep.. they ONLY went to Orthanc just like
in the movie... now maybe the Horns (or sleeping ents) helped kill the
orcs that ran to Fangorn but Helms deep was not saved by the ents.
They are making a love relationship for Aragorn and adding the backdrop
for it. In the book, Arwen gets mentioned in only about 2 lines.
The Osgiliath scene was there to give a more desperate feel to the quest
of the ring.
In the BOOK Sam does fall and gets stuck in the earth.. and Frodo covers
both him and Sam with the elven cloak (or does Sam just cover himself I
can't remember) BUT YES..! someone walks very very close and completely
misses him.!
GO read the book again before you bash the movie. Take the movie for
what it is.. and adaptation of an epic book.. equal in that a director
needs to make sure people will actually like the movie. Not everyone in
the world has read the Lord of the Rings.. you can't expect everyone to
understand what is going on without giving some filler scenes...

Orc walking walls... uh remember Uruk Hai is what Saruman uses in the
movie to attack Orthanc NOT orcs... yes they are related to orcs.. but
they are not basic run of the mill orcs.. bigger stronger can move in
sunlight.. yet they can't go up walls.. Saruman couldn't have
everything...
  Will Harvey

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Message: 6
   Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:40:31 -0700
   From: "corsairs game 101" <corsairs101@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT: The Two Towers: SPOILER

Okay, I give.... Why SO MANY changes?

In the first movie, I understood why there were so many changes. More
Arwin
for more Heroic Woman scenes. Cool. I get it. Moving dialog from

one

place to another or changing the character that delivers the lines to

make

the movie flow better. Great. Killing the troll to give climax to

the

battle scene. Great. (I never really liked the wall walking orcs or

the

scene where the fellowship gets sourrounded or the falling staircase
scenes,
but they weren't that big a deal.)

That said, they made WAY TOO MANY changes to Two Towers. SPOILER

ALERT!!!

What was with the whole "Aragorn falls in the river" scene or the

"Elrond

talking Arwin into sailing to Valinor" scene?

Why not have the battle of Helm's Deep be ended by the arrival of the

ents

like the book? Okay, you can't do the "jump around in time" thingy

like

in
the book and they had to leave the "decision of the ents" to the last
minute, no time to get to the ents to Helm's Deep. Need Eomond to

show up

with an army to have some Riders to take into the battle of Pelenor
fields.... I suppose that one was sort of okay.

So, I'll end with this one. What was gained by having Feanor take

Frodo

to
Osgiliath? Why not just let him go at the hidden camp like the book?
That
one bugs me the most of all the changes. I really see no need for

that

scene.

One last one.... Sure, the Elven Cloaks could hide you from a

distance,

but
they weren't Harry Potter "Cloaks of Invisibility". What was the

purpose

of
that stupid scene?

ARG. To many changes, and most seemingly without purpose. Unless

they

are
to set up even bigger changes inthe 3rd film... No, they couldn't,

could

they?!?!? And that is what I found myself wondering during the last

1/3rd

of the movie? Instead of thinking how great it was, I found myself
worried
about why they screwed with the story so much, and how much more they
would
screw with it.

All in all, I'd give the move a solid A+, but not as good as the first
simply due to lack of "Sticking to the best story ever created".

So, if orcs can walk up walls in Moria, why did they need ladders at
Helm's
Deep? See the consistancy porblems created by screwing with stuff for

no

reason?

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