England actually, your possibly managed the rare combination of upsetting both some English and our Celtic neighbours .
Basically we're regrouping after the world cup win last year - bit like the BEF regrouping at Dunkirk . !st match was pretty poor from all accounts. 2nd was better in that we were 6-0 up after 14 minutes when one of the pack was sent off and after that they seemed to have done well to hang on.
Interesting thing will be playing the convicts on Saturday. Think it's their 1st match since the final and they have most of the team that played then while we have only 6 of the team that won. Have to see how it goes.
In answer to your other question pretty expensive I expect. However suspect that Clint is considering taking on a team rather than someone else playing all 12?
Steve
Joseph
ps, what's this about the Brits losing 2 games to the
All Black? What's next, losing to the French Canadian
girls team?
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To most of us Americans, England, Britain, UK..... All
the same. I must say, I never understood why my Welsh
grandparents were so adament about not being called
English.
As part o' the hype about the upcoming (and I expect
quite bad) King Arthur movie, our History Channel ran
a program last weekend on the history of the King
Arthur mythology.
I found it very interesting, not for the mythology,
but for the Celtic, Brit, English history... I always
knew that the Roman empire has expanded all the way to
Britain, but didn't realize it was pretty tribal
before the Romans show up... That the Anglo-Saxons
were German invaders that came in during the power
vacuume of the Roman collapse... That Welsh came from
the Anglo-Saxxon word for foreigner... They invade,
take over, and call the natives "foreigners"... That's
just rude.
I knew that the Normans (Vikings that had settled in
France) had taken over in 1066, and set themselves up
as lords of the Saxons. I didn't realize they had
help from the brit decendants that had been displaced
by the Saxon invasion 500+ years earlier.
I know there are some here in American that still
consider themselves of Italian or German or French or
whatever decent.... I think most of us white folk,
(much more than Britian) just consider ourselves
generic white folk.
My favorite on this is that it's all where you are standing...
What I mean is this: I had an opportunity to visit a Welsh castle and
one of the plaques describing events read "...and then the English
amassed a horde..." I just had to grin. There was a purpose in using
'Horde' instead of 'Army'. The signs in the castle were filled with this
sort of 'tweaks' to the history. Just a matter of perspective, I
suppose...
Later,
Jeffery A.
England actually, your possibly managed the rare
combination of upsetting both some English and our
Celtic neighbours .
To most of us Americans, England, Britain, UK..... All
the same. I must say, I never understood why my Welsh
grandparents were so adament about not being called
English.
As part o' the hype about the upcoming (and I expect
quite bad) King Arthur movie, our History Channel ran
a program last weekend on the history of the King
Arthur mythology.
I found it very interesting, not for the mythology,
but for the Celtic, Brit, English history... I always
knew that the Roman empire has expanded all the way to
Britain, but didn't realize it was pretty tribal
before the Romans show up... That the Anglo-Saxons
were German invaders that came in during the power
vacuume of the Roman collapse... That Welsh came from
the Anglo-Saxxon word for foreigner... They invade,
take over, and call the natives "foreigners"... That's
just rude.
I knew that the Normans (Vikings that had settled in
France) had taken over in 1066, and set themselves up
as lords of the Saxons. I didn't realize they had
help from the brit decendants that had been displaced
by the Saxon invasion 500+ years earlier.
I know there are some here in American that still
consider themselves of Italian or German or French or
whatever decent.... I think most of us white folk,
(much more than Britian) just consider ourselves
generic white folk.
Anyone ever read Here Be Dragons by Sharon Kay Penman?
About the Welsh under Llewellyn (spelling wrong I'm
sure) against the English, very cool book. Historical
Fiction. Very much recommend it, if you are into that
kind of thing.
My favorite on this is that it's all where you are
standing...
What I mean is this: I had an opportunity to visit a
Welsh castle and
one of the plaques describing events read "...and
then the English
amassed a horde..." I just had to grin. There was a
purpose in using
'Horde' instead of 'Army'. The signs in the castle
were filled with this
sort of 'tweaks' to the history. Just a matter of
perspective, I
suppose...
Later,
Jeffery A.
--- Steve Pickering <steve_history@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> England actually, your possibly managed the rare
> combination of upsetting both some English and our
> Celtic neighbours .
To most of us Americans, England, Britain, UK.....
All
the same. I must say, I never understood why my
Welsh
grandparents were so adament about not being called
English.
As part o' the hype about the upcoming (and I expect
quite bad) King Arthur movie, our History Channel
ran
a program last weekend on the history of the King
Arthur mythology.
I found it very interesting, not for the mythology,
but for the Celtic, Brit, English history... I
always
knew that the Roman empire has expanded all the way
to
Britain, but didn't realize it was pretty tribal
before the Romans show up... That the Anglo-Saxons
were German invaders that came in during the power
vacuume of the Roman collapse... That Welsh came
from
the Anglo-Saxxon word for foreigner... They invade,
take over, and call the natives "foreigners"...
That's
just rude.
I knew that the Normans (Vikings that had settled in
France) had taken over in 1066, and set themselves
up
as lords of the Saxons. I didn't realize they had
help from the brit decendants that had been
displaced
by the Saxon invasion 500+ years earlier.
I know there are some here in American that still
consider themselves of Italian or German or French
or
whatever decent.... I think most of us white folk,
(much more than Britian) just consider ourselves
generic white folk.
To most of us Americans, England, Britain, UK..... All
the same. I must say, I never understood why my Welsh
grandparents were so adament about not being called
English.
They're not the same? Canada was once a UK territory.
Now it is a U.S. territory that produces great hockey
players, but always losses Lord Stanley's cup to one
of our teams.
Well, Americas and Canadians are all the same except
Quebec.... There not "really" Americans.
In answer to your other question pretty expensive I expect. However suspect that Clint is considering taking on a team rather than someone else playing all 12?
