Digest Number 648

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Hi Clint,

in one of games I have played the Harad and planned to attack the Corsairs.
Because I haven´t heard anything from the Frees (although I contacted
them), I wanted to turn evil. At about turn 6 I was at Umbar (cap of the
Corsairs) for capturing it. At this point I have to recognized that HE has
turned DARK. Because I won`t fight against Corsairs, QA and agents of CL,
without any support/ interest of the FREE, I also declared DARK. (And I was
really impressed that a spanish guy contacted me via phone, to "rescue" his
position)
A bitter moment, because Gondor was overrun quickly and game has ended
before turn 20...

So I see no problem with this gameplay, although for your target is it not
nice to have an enemy from the start, but he doesn´t have the chance to
beware of it!

Reg,
marcus mauermann

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     1. Re: 1650 me game 83 - 2wk normal taking set-ups
          From: runemk@ruc.dk
     2. Re: Re: 1650 me game 83 - 2wk normal taking set-ups
          From: "Middle Earth PBM Games" <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
     3. Re: 1650 me game 83 - 2wk normal taking set-ups
          From: "Middle Earth PBM Games" <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
     4. Neutral for GMs
          From: "Middle Earth PBM Games" <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
     5. Re: Neutral for GMs
          From: O'Neil Provost <provost@mail.utexas.edu>
     6. Re: Neutral for GMs
          From: "Middle Earth PBM Games" <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
     7. RE: Neutral for GMs
          From: HENNING RINDBÆK LARSEN <rindbaek@get2net.dk>
     8. Re: Neutral for GMs
          From: "Richard John Devereux" <devereux@lineone.net>
     9. Re: Neutral for GMs
          From: "Thomas Crane" <Godzilla@squamata.in2home.co.uk>
    10. Re: 1650 me game 83 - 2wk normal taking set-ups
          From: Benjamin Shushan <bshushan@earthlink.net>
    11. Re: 1650 me game 83 - 2wk normal taking set-ups
          From: "Middle Earth PBM Games" <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
    12. Re: 1650 me game 83 - 2wk normal taking set-ups
          From: Benjamin Shushan <bshushan@earthlink.net>
    13. LOTR and Tolkien article
          From: pinsonneault.1@osu.edu

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Message: 1
  Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:09:58 -0000
  From: runemk@ruc.dk
Subject: Re: 1650 me game 83 - 2wk normal taking set-ups

Hello Clint

Noldo Elves would be nice, please!!!

Rune Runesen dk

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Message: 2
  Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:19:13 +0100
  From: "Middle Earth PBM Games" <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
Subject: Re: Re: 1650 me game 83 - 2wk normal taking set-ups

Sorry been taken.

Clint
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Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 10:09 AM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: 1650 me game 83 - 2wk normal taking set-ups

Hello Clint

Noldo Elves would be nice, please!!!

Rune Runesen dk

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Message: 3
  Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:22:41 +0100
  From: "Middle Earth PBM Games" <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
Subject: Re: 1650 me game 83 - 2wk normal taking set-ups

Gone sorry. Game 83 (after the usual mad rush for the tasty nations) has
got:

1,6,7,12,13,16-18,20,21,24,25

Clint

Duns, s.v.p.

b (Ben Shushan)

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Message: 4
  Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:34:46 +0100
  From: "Middle Earth PBM Games" <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
Subject: Neutral for GMs

Hello there - got a moral dilemma that I need to go past you. I WANT to
play a dirty Neutral who from turn one attacks another dirty Neutral. :slight_smile:

Basically players are allowed to do this but it can annoy the others in the
game. As a GM it might be considered inappropriate. Any thoughts?

Clint (player)

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Message: 5
  Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 12:14:48 -0500
  From: O'Neil Provost <provost@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Neutral for GMs

My reaction is to say, do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

If you experience negative repercussions... you are responsible
If you do not... you are responsible

But the only binds we should put on you is to not use your access to
inside information to gain in the games you play

Hello there - got a moral dilemma that I need to go past you. I WANT to
play a dirty Neutral who from turn one attacks another dirty Neutral. :slight_smile:

Basically players are allowed to do this but it can annoy the others in the
game. As a GM it might be considered inappropriate. Any thoughts?

Clint (player)

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Message: 6
  Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 18:05:09 +0100
  From: "Middle Earth PBM Games" <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
Subject: Re: Neutral for GMs

Yeh I reckon that there might be repurcussions unfortunately.

Clint

My reaction is to say, do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

If you experience negative repercussions... you are responsible
If you do not... you are responsible

But the only binds we should put on you is to not use your access to
inside information to gain in the games you play

>Hello there - got a moral dilemma that I need to go past you. I WANT to
>play a dirty Neutral who from turn one attacks another dirty Neutral. :slight_smile:
>
>Basically players are allowed to do this but it can annoy the others in

the

>game. As a GM it might be considered inappropriate. Any thoughts?
>
>Clint (player)
>
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Message: 7
  Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 22:22:01 +0200
  From: HENNING RINDBÆK LARSEN <rindbaek@get2net.dk>
Subject: RE: Neutral for GMs

I wont have any problems with you, or anyone else, playing like that, unless
i want the other neutral to join my side.......hmm you made that one an easy
one (and then I might be so fortunate to elliminate you). Hmm what game??
:wink:

Henning, a simple guy who believes the worst about the opposition (and thats
the 24 others)

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Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 6:35 PM
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mepbmlist] Neutral for GMs

Hello there - got a moral dilemma that I need to go past you. I WANT to
play a dirty Neutral who from turn one attacks another dirty Neutral. :slight_smile:

Basically players are allowed to do this but it can annoy the
others in the
game. As a GM it might be considered inappropriate. Any thoughts?

Clint (player)

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Message: 8
  Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:29:22 +0100
  From: "Richard John Devereux" <devereux@lineone.net>
Subject: Re: Neutral for GMs

From: "Middle Earth PBM Games" <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 5:34 PM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Neutral for GMs

Hello there - got a moral dilemma that I need to go past you. I WANT to
play a dirty Neutral who from turn one attacks another dirty Neutral. :slight_smile:

Basically players are allowed to do this but it can annoy the others in

the

game. As a GM it might be considered inappropriate. Any thoughts?

Clint (player)

RD: Ha ha ha! Since when have leaders of nations, neutral or otherwise,
had morals? You want to attack another neutral, go for it. I am interested
to see the outcome!

Richard.

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Message: 9
  Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 22:14:32 +0100
  From: "Thomas Crane" <Godzilla@squamata.in2home.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Neutral for GMs

I have no problems with neutrals attacking each other I also have no
problems with neutrals attacking both sides either. The way I see it the
Neutral wishes to make themselves an area where they can live outside the
influence of the main war that is taking place and as such can attack anyone
in that area to make them feel more secure

Thomas Crane

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Message: 10
  Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:15:12 -0400
  From: Benjamin Shushan <bshushan@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: 1650 me game 83 - 2wk normal taking set-ups

O.k., how about #20???

b

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Gone sorry. Game 83 (after the usual mad rush for the tasty nations) has
got:

1,6,7,12,13,16-18,20,21,24,25

Clint

> Duns, s.v.p.
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Message: 11
  Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 00:39:25 +0100
  From: "Middle Earth PBM Games" <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
Subject: Re: 1650 me game 83 - 2wk normal taking set-ups

20 has not gone at present. Do you want me to put you down for this nation?

Clint
From: Benjamin Shushan <bshushan@earthlink.net>
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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] 1650 me game 83 - 2wk normal taking set-ups

O.k., how about #20???

b

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> Gone sorry. Game 83 (after the usual mad rush for the tasty nations)

has

> got:
>
> 1,6,7,12,13,16-18,20,21,24,25
>
> Clint
>
> > Duns, s.v.p.
> >
> > b (Ben Shushan)
> >
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> > > Any takers? All available.
> > >
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Message: 12
  Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 22:47:31 -0400
  From: Benjamin Shushan <bshushan@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: 1650 me game 83 - 2wk normal taking set-ups

Yeah, sure. :slight_smile:

b

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20 has not gone at present. Do you want me to put you down for this

nation?

···

At 08:00 19.07.01 -0000, you wrote:

----- Original Message -----

-----Original Message-----

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Clint
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From: Benjamin Shushan <bshushan@earthlink.net>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] 1650 me game 83 - 2wk normal taking set-ups

> O.k., how about #20???
>
> b
>
> Middle Earth PBM Games wrote:
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> > Gone sorry. Game 83 (after the usual mad rush for the tasty nations)
has
> > got:
> >
> > 1,6,7,12,13,16-18,20,21,24,25
> >
> > Clint
> >
> > > Duns, s.v.p.
> > >
> > > b (Ben Shushan)
> > >
> > > Middle Earth PBM Games wrote:
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> > > > Any takers? All available.
> > > >
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Message: 13
  Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 03:40:06 -0000
  From: pinsonneault.1@osu.edu
Subject: LOTR and Tolkien article

There is an interesting (and mostly sympathetic) critique of the Lord
of the Rings and Tolkien on salon.com; the link below is to the first
of a 2 part series.

http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2001/06/04/tolkien/index.html

Marc Pinsonneault

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