If you consider the'deep dark south' includes most of Eothraim land,
Mirkwood, the Anduin Valley and North Gondor not to mention a couple
of outposts west of the mountains then you are right. Whilst I might
be overstating the absoluteness of our victory under poetic license I
think any objective observer would expect the DS to easily win from
our position given the turn.
My point is not about your teams play, I thought that you did for us
in the North West about as quickly as you can against competent
players, but about the state of the game. I know you lot started with
a disadvantage, tried some strange tactics and generally treated this
less seriously than a normal game as we did and if there was a large
cash prize for winning the result would no doubt have been closer but
in my experience 'honourable draw' does not describe the end result,
DS probable win does!
All I want is Andy, as your team Captain, to give an honest
description of the end result.....
Cheers
Chris Courtiour
--- In mepbmlist@y..., "simon.dunsterville" <simon.dunsterville@n...>
wrote:
Oh Chris, how could you? What about the Rhudaur capital, Mt Gram
and the
12,000 unoppsed HI on Carn Dum? NW Middle Earth was definately
safe for all
free thinking nations. The Witch King and Rhudaur may well have
been
active, but it was from their summer homes in the deep dark
south. 
It was great fun, and very tiring - once the memory of frantic half
hour
order writing and cold pizza fades, I'm sure there will be clamours
for a
rematch - in which case count me in, I may even know what I'm doing
by then!
Cheers
Simon
To: <mepbmlist@y...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 9:38 PM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Face to Face Game
> Certainly was fun, but 'honourable draw'? First off, I know I
didn't
> agree to anything! Second, if taking out the Woodmen MTs (and
holding
> them) capturing three Eo MTs (and holding them not to mention the
one
> we were about to take), keeping the Freeps out of Mordor, savaging
> the Corsairs whilst keeping an active WK, Rhudaur and Dragon
Lord, in
> winter and all by turn twelve is a draw what exactly do you have
to
> do to win?
>
> I know that the Freeps were handicapped with a much less
experienced
> side (not to mention some heavy duty drinking, for which they
> definitely get the award!), we got all the luck etc which makes it
> irrelevant as a true contest of skill but I have to protest
against
> GM correctness. We shafted them, we spanked them so hard that they
> might as well sell their chairs, we get pure gold and they get
mud.
> If that was an honourable draw then Saddam Hussein is a nice guy,
> WWII a stand off, Maggie Thatcher a Communist!
>
> Come on guys, take it like men and 'fess up!
>
> Cheers
> Chris Courtiour
>
> --- In mepbmlist@y..., "MiddleEarthGames" <me@M...> wrote:
> > Okay the panic is over, calmness has descended and the FTF was
an
> > unqualified success. Excellent fun was had by all I think.
Thanks
> to all
> > of you that made it a success. We finally managed to get a
12vs12
> game
> > going which was great fun. An honourable draw was agreed at the
> end on turn
> > 12. Watch out for a report of this game in Bree. 2wks to wait
for
> your
> > turn will never seem the same again.
> >
> > With that in mind I asked what I could do to improve the next
one.
> >
> > 1) Set the date earlier? Okay it's Saturday 28th and Sunday
29th
> December
> > 2002. I'll take names as and when you want to put your name
down
> for it.
> > We'll organise positions for you all nearer the time.
> > 2) Reduce the number of players running two nations. Will do -
> this is all
> > down to getting more players here.
> > 3) Send out 0th turns earlier BUT I also had players asking for
> turns and
> > teams to be decided on the day. I have some thoughts on this
but
> wonder
> > what you think?
> > 4) Variant to the normal game? Quite possible.
> > 5) Game in June/July? I'll think about this. We're running the
> Copenhagen
> > game mid January (some of the Christmas players are coming
along to
> this
> > now) so I'll wait until that has been completed before we go any
> further on
> > planning that one.
> >
> > My preferences: I would like to have a GM on each side. As I
only
> played
> > one nation (QA and enjoyed it enormously - thanks Dave for
being a
> sporting
> > Corsair and Tom - Harad in particular - here for a fast
> introduction to the
> > world of DS) on the day it meant that I had some spare time to
chat
> to
> > players and keep things ticking along but felt that the FP had
> suffered.
> > The FPs suffered from a lack of spare experienced players I
felt on
> the
> > day - and we had a surfeit of them... 
> >
> > Thanks for the Bristol lot for the Cognac, Chris C for the
> introduction to
> > Indian meals, and the whole shebang who paid for us on
Saturday..
> very
> > tasty... (Thanks also to the lads for sorting my books out! 
> The
> > library is now open....)
> >
> > Okay enough of that - I enjoyed it - more fun than the one we
run 2
> years
> > ago and we leant a lot of lessons....
> >
> > Ta
> >
> > Clint
>
>
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