Face to Face Game

Okay the panic is over, calmness has descended and the FTF was an
unqualified success. Excellent fun was had by all I think. Thanks to all
of you that made it a success. We finally managed to get a 12vs12 game
going which was great fun. An honourable draw was agreed at the end on turn
12. Watch out for a report of this game in Bree. 2wks to wait for your
turn will never seem the same again.

With that in mind I asked what I could do to improve the next one.

1) Set the date earlier? Okay it's Saturday 28th and Sunday 29th December
2002. I'll take names as and when you want to put your name down for it.
We'll organise positions for you all nearer the time.
2) Reduce the number of players running two nations. Will do - this is all
down to getting more players here.
3) Send out 0th turns earlier BUT I also had players asking for turns and
teams to be decided on the day. I have some thoughts on this but wonder
what you think?
4) Variant to the normal game? Quite possible.
5) Game in June/July? I'll think about this. We're running the Copenhagen
game mid January (some of the Christmas players are coming along to this
now) so I'll wait until that has been completed before we go any further on
planning that one.

My preferences: I would like to have a GM on each side. As I only played
one nation (QA and enjoyed it enormously - thanks Dave for being a sporting
Corsair and Tom - Harad in particular - here for a fast introduction to the
world of DS) on the day it meant that I had some spare time to chat to
players and keep things ticking along but felt that the FP had suffered.
The FPs suffered from a lack of spare experienced players I felt on the
day - and we had a surfeit of them... :slight_smile:

Thanks for the Bristol lot for the Cognac, Chris C for the introduction to
Indian meals, and the whole shebang who paid for us on Saturday.. very
tasty... (Thanks also to the lads for sorting my books out! :slight_smile: The
library is now open....)

Okay enough of that - I enjoyed it - more fun than the one we run 2 years
ago and we leant a lot of lessons....

Ta

Clint

Certainly was fun, but 'honourable draw'? First off, I know I didn't
agree to anything! Second, if taking out the Woodmen MTs (and holding
them) capturing three Eo MTs (and holding them not to mention the one
we were about to take), keeping the Freeps out of Mordor, savaging
the Corsairs whilst keeping an active WK, Rhudaur and Dragon Lord, in
winter and all by turn twelve is a draw what exactly do you have to
do to win?

I know that the Freeps were handicapped with a much less experienced
side (not to mention some heavy duty drinking, for which they
definitely get the award!), we got all the luck etc which makes it
irrelevant as a true contest of skill but I have to protest against
GM correctness. We shafted them, we spanked them so hard that they
might as well sell their chairs, we get pure gold and they get mud.
If that was an honourable draw then Saddam Hussein is a nice guy,
WWII a stand off, Maggie Thatcher a Communist!

Come on guys, take it like men and 'fess up!

Cheers
Chris Courtiour

--- In mepbmlist@y..., "MiddleEarthGames" <me@M...> wrote:

Okay the panic is over, calmness has descended and the FTF was an
unqualified success. Excellent fun was had by all I think. Thanks

to all

of you that made it a success. We finally managed to get a 12vs12

game

going which was great fun. An honourable draw was agreed at the

end on turn

12. Watch out for a report of this game in Bree. 2wks to wait for

your

turn will never seem the same again.

With that in mind I asked what I could do to improve the next one.

1) Set the date earlier? Okay it's Saturday 28th and Sunday 29th

December

2002. I'll take names as and when you want to put your name down

for it.

We'll organise positions for you all nearer the time.
2) Reduce the number of players running two nations. Will do -

this is all

down to getting more players here.
3) Send out 0th turns earlier BUT I also had players asking for

turns and

teams to be decided on the day. I have some thoughts on this but

wonder

what you think?
4) Variant to the normal game? Quite possible.
5) Game in June/July? I'll think about this. We're running the

Copenhagen

game mid January (some of the Christmas players are coming along to

this

now) so I'll wait until that has been completed before we go any

further on

planning that one.

My preferences: I would like to have a GM on each side. As I only

played

one nation (QA and enjoyed it enormously - thanks Dave for being a

sporting

Corsair and Tom - Harad in particular - here for a fast

introduction to the

world of DS) on the day it meant that I had some spare time to chat

to

players and keep things ticking along but felt that the FP had

suffered.

The FPs suffered from a lack of spare experienced players I felt on

the

day - and we had a surfeit of them... :slight_smile:

Thanks for the Bristol lot for the Cognac, Chris C for the

introduction to

Indian meals, and the whole shebang who paid for us on Saturday..

very

tasty... (Thanks also to the lads for sorting my books out! :slight_smile:

The

library is now open....)

Okay enough of that - I enjoyed it - more fun than the one we run 2

years

···

ago and we leant a lot of lessons....

Ta

Clint

Oh Chris, how could you? What about the Rhudaur capital, Mt Gram and the
12,000 unoppsed HI on Carn Dum? NW Middle Earth was definately safe for all
free thinking nations. The Witch King and Rhudaur may well have been
active, but it was from their summer homes in the deep dark south. :wink:

It was great fun, and very tiring - once the memory of frantic half hour
order writing and cold pizza fades, I'm sure there will be clamours for a
rematch - in which case count me in, I may even know what I'm doing by then!

Cheers

Simon

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----- Original Message -----
From: arnheim2001 <arnheim@globalnet.co.uk>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 9:38 PM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Face to Face Game

Certainly was fun, but 'honourable draw'? First off, I know I didn't
agree to anything! Second, if taking out the Woodmen MTs (and holding
them) capturing three Eo MTs (and holding them not to mention the one
we were about to take), keeping the Freeps out of Mordor, savaging
the Corsairs whilst keeping an active WK, Rhudaur and Dragon Lord, in
winter and all by turn twelve is a draw what exactly do you have to
do to win?

I know that the Freeps were handicapped with a much less experienced
side (not to mention some heavy duty drinking, for which they
definitely get the award!), we got all the luck etc which makes it
irrelevant as a true contest of skill but I have to protest against
GM correctness. We shafted them, we spanked them so hard that they
might as well sell their chairs, we get pure gold and they get mud.
If that was an honourable draw then Saddam Hussein is a nice guy,
WWII a stand off, Maggie Thatcher a Communist!

Come on guys, take it like men and 'fess up!

Cheers
Chris Courtiour

--- In mepbmlist@y..., "MiddleEarthGames" <me@M...> wrote:
> Okay the panic is over, calmness has descended and the FTF was an
> unqualified success. Excellent fun was had by all I think. Thanks
to all
> of you that made it a success. We finally managed to get a 12vs12
game
> going which was great fun. An honourable draw was agreed at the
end on turn
> 12. Watch out for a report of this game in Bree. 2wks to wait for
your
> turn will never seem the same again.
>
> With that in mind I asked what I could do to improve the next one.
>
> 1) Set the date earlier? Okay it's Saturday 28th and Sunday 29th
December
> 2002. I'll take names as and when you want to put your name down
for it.
> We'll organise positions for you all nearer the time.
> 2) Reduce the number of players running two nations. Will do -
this is all
> down to getting more players here.
> 3) Send out 0th turns earlier BUT I also had players asking for
turns and
> teams to be decided on the day. I have some thoughts on this but
wonder
> what you think?
> 4) Variant to the normal game? Quite possible.
> 5) Game in June/July? I'll think about this. We're running the
Copenhagen
> game mid January (some of the Christmas players are coming along to
this
> now) so I'll wait until that has been completed before we go any
further on
> planning that one.
>
> My preferences: I would like to have a GM on each side. As I only
played
> one nation (QA and enjoyed it enormously - thanks Dave for being a
sporting
> Corsair and Tom - Harad in particular - here for a fast
introduction to the
> world of DS) on the day it meant that I had some spare time to chat
to
> players and keep things ticking along but felt that the FP had
suffered.
> The FPs suffered from a lack of spare experienced players I felt on
the
> day - and we had a surfeit of them... :slight_smile:
>
> Thanks for the Bristol lot for the Cognac, Chris C for the
introduction to
> Indian meals, and the whole shebang who paid for us on Saturday..
very
> tasty... (Thanks also to the lads for sorting my books out! :slight_smile:
The
> library is now open....)
>
> Okay enough of that - I enjoyed it - more fun than the one we run 2
years
> ago and we leant a lot of lessons....
>
> Ta
>
> Clint

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If you consider the'deep dark south' includes most of Eothraim land,
Mirkwood, the Anduin Valley and North Gondor not to mention a couple
of outposts west of the mountains then you are right. Whilst I might
be overstating the absoluteness of our victory under poetic license I
think any objective observer would expect the DS to easily win from
our position given the turn.

My point is not about your teams play, I thought that you did for us
in the North West about as quickly as you can against competent
players, but about the state of the game. I know you lot started with
a disadvantage, tried some strange tactics and generally treated this
less seriously than a normal game as we did and if there was a large
cash prize for winning the result would no doubt have been closer but
in my experience 'honourable draw' does not describe the end result,
DS probable win does!

All I want is Andy, as your team Captain, to give an honest
description of the end result.....:wink:

Cheers
Chris Courtiour

--- In mepbmlist@y..., "simon.dunsterville" <simon.dunsterville@n...>
wrote:

Oh Chris, how could you? What about the Rhudaur capital, Mt Gram

and the

12,000 unoppsed HI on Carn Dum? NW Middle Earth was definately

safe for all

free thinking nations. The Witch King and Rhudaur may well have

been

active, but it was from their summer homes in the deep dark

south. :wink:

It was great fun, and very tiring - once the memory of frantic half

hour

order writing and cold pizza fades, I'm sure there will be clamours

for a

rematch - in which case count me in, I may even know what I'm doing

by then!

Cheers

Simon

To: <mepbmlist@y...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 9:38 PM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Face to Face Game

> Certainly was fun, but 'honourable draw'? First off, I know I

didn't

> agree to anything! Second, if taking out the Woodmen MTs (and

holding

> them) capturing three Eo MTs (and holding them not to mention the

one

> we were about to take), keeping the Freeps out of Mordor, savaging
> the Corsairs whilst keeping an active WK, Rhudaur and Dragon

Lord, in

> winter and all by turn twelve is a draw what exactly do you have

to

> do to win?
>
> I know that the Freeps were handicapped with a much less

experienced

> side (not to mention some heavy duty drinking, for which they
> definitely get the award!), we got all the luck etc which makes it
> irrelevant as a true contest of skill but I have to protest

against

> GM correctness. We shafted them, we spanked them so hard that they
> might as well sell their chairs, we get pure gold and they get

mud.

> If that was an honourable draw then Saddam Hussein is a nice guy,
> WWII a stand off, Maggie Thatcher a Communist!
>
> Come on guys, take it like men and 'fess up!
>
> Cheers
> Chris Courtiour
>
> --- In mepbmlist@y..., "MiddleEarthGames" <me@M...> wrote:
> > Okay the panic is over, calmness has descended and the FTF was

an

> > unqualified success. Excellent fun was had by all I think.

Thanks

> to all
> > of you that made it a success. We finally managed to get a

12vs12

> game
> > going which was great fun. An honourable draw was agreed at the
> end on turn
> > 12. Watch out for a report of this game in Bree. 2wks to wait

for

> your
> > turn will never seem the same again.
> >
> > With that in mind I asked what I could do to improve the next

one.

> >
> > 1) Set the date earlier? Okay it's Saturday 28th and Sunday

29th

> December
> > 2002. I'll take names as and when you want to put your name

down

> for it.
> > We'll organise positions for you all nearer the time.
> > 2) Reduce the number of players running two nations. Will do -
> this is all
> > down to getting more players here.
> > 3) Send out 0th turns earlier BUT I also had players asking for
> turns and
> > teams to be decided on the day. I have some thoughts on this

but

> wonder
> > what you think?
> > 4) Variant to the normal game? Quite possible.
> > 5) Game in June/July? I'll think about this. We're running the
> Copenhagen
> > game mid January (some of the Christmas players are coming

along to

> this
> > now) so I'll wait until that has been completed before we go any
> further on
> > planning that one.
> >
> > My preferences: I would like to have a GM on each side. As I

only

> played
> > one nation (QA and enjoyed it enormously - thanks Dave for

being a

> sporting
> > Corsair and Tom - Harad in particular - here for a fast
> introduction to the
> > world of DS) on the day it meant that I had some spare time to

chat

> to
> > players and keep things ticking along but felt that the FP had
> suffered.
> > The FPs suffered from a lack of spare experienced players I

felt on

> the
> > day - and we had a surfeit of them... :slight_smile:
> >
> > Thanks for the Bristol lot for the Cognac, Chris C for the
> introduction to
> > Indian meals, and the whole shebang who paid for us on

Saturday..

> very
> > tasty... (Thanks also to the lads for sorting my books out! :slight_smile:
> The
> > library is now open....)
> >
> > Okay enough of that - I enjoyed it - more fun than the one we

run 2

> years
> > ago and we leant a lot of lessons....
> >
> > Ta
> >
> > Clint
>
>
>
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