this site has maggot as a normal hobbit (my point of
view),and list 24 maiar (some are the same person). It
also spends serious time on tom as a possible valar,
but I found another more detailed discussion about
this. I side with richard that Tom was a maiar who has
existed on middle earth since year dot.
Din
p.s the site is actually pretty good. Alas its too
brief for my liking. And I disagree with a few things
- it says that one silmaril still survives in the
west. I say all were lost. One in the sea, one in the
land, and one in the sky. The one in the sky is the
one they are talking about.
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RD: Depends what you mean by 'lost.' The one in the sky was bound around
Earendil's brow and became a star signalling hope to both Elves and Men. So
it wasn't lost, in the sense that people could still see it, but it WAS lost
in the sense that it was inaccessible and beyond recovery.
Correct that one was cast into a fiery abyss and the other into the sea.
Tolkien no doubt intended them to be lost in both senses of the word.
However for those of you who like messing about with 'history,' what if,
perhaps in the 4th Age, the Silmaril cast into the sea could be found in the
stomach of a sea-monster (of course, somebody would have to kill the monster
first, but that would make a new interesting encounter). The Silmaril cast
into the fiery abyss could be carried to a deep cave by a flow of lava, or
blown out of the volcano by an eruption. Maybe another Balrog survived and
picked it up - we wouldn't want to make it easy!
Are you listening Deft?
Re your previous email mentioning Feanor's mum: her name was Miriel. After
giving birth to him, she died of exhaustion (not grief) but apparently went
to Lorien to die.
Richard.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Din" <din_ohtar@yahoo.com.au>
To: <mepbmlist@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] farmer maggot
this site has maggot as a normal hobbit (my point of
view),and list 24 maiar (some are the same person). It
also spends serious time on tom as a possible valar,
but I found another more detailed discussion about
this. I side with richard that Tom was a maiar who has
existed on middle earth since year dot.
Din
p.s the site is actually pretty good. Alas its too
brief for my liking. And I disagree with a few things
- it says that one silmaril still survives in the
west. I say all were lost. One in the sea, one in the
land, and one in the sky. The one in the sky is the
one they are talking about.
