Greetings DS and those that are inclined to be that way -
Is there nothing to talk about anymore?
I have an important question, as I have written to my team that this is how the DS will react to our victories… I could be wrong?
Is it fair or a good strategy to crow about how well you’re doing, then when all isn’t so well (and the crow is shot and there is no squawking) to ask all the Neutrals, that haven’t aligned (let me see, that would be all except maybe one?) to come save the day for them? :eek:
That was how I read the ArfaBrad situation way back… WK dies if you don’t go DS. Might be right but Arfy didn’t read Your fine print… undortuantely you will die if you do but thanks for keeping Witchy in for a bit longer 
Perhaps Neutrals at the start of every game should have a pre-nuptial agreement? (Personally, it’s the key reason to play on one side, rather than be neutral)
Should read, "Due to having to pay an undisclosed large sum of hard earned money to play and the fact that your demise will be no fault of mine, I reserve the right not to have to be married to you for the following reasons and all divorce proceedings shall be at your expense:
1 If you offer the world and can’t handle the delivery of a basic cuddle for 10 turns
2 If you can’t hold your end of any deals you originally offered
3 You are dying at an alarming rate
4 If you try to enforce the unwritten policy of “if you don’t join us the game will be over” a common threat… even if it might be true on some occasions
For clairifcation - Is there any Neutrals out there that feel this is a fair agreement prior to any negotiations?
Don’t matter, do what you do! I have only had real conversation with one Neut, the others holding things close to their chest (which is their right) but we have tried to negotiate, using our merrits and offering good planning… I hope 
Fact:
Freeps did not/will not use any of these - " I’m in the sewerage effluent pond, help me or you’ll smell bad too!" tactics. When DS were rolling over Rhun? When the Eothraim was being torched? When many chars including Tarondor died? When beaten to many important arties? When losing chars faster than granny’s nickers going down on Father’s day
If your a neutral then you may/maynot of heard these stories? If your DS, it may also be the same… no stereotyping here, just open discussion :rolleyes:
To end, don’t care what side the Neutals join or how many DS are beaten… if they are happy to do it that way, so am I but want it known that I know it is or will be tried any tick of the clock, given last turn results. 
The Woodster
( a meaningless and quite useless nation but because he pays he has plenty of says)