Games filling

The following new games are filling up.
2950 2wk [Game 26]: 15 nations available. [2/7]
1650 2wk [Game 02]: 2 nations available. [15/8]
1000 2wk [Game 49]: 15 nations available.
UW 2wk [Game 209]: 6 nations available.
1650 GB 2wk (Game1):12 nations available. 30 word diplo Latest GB rules apply.
1650 GB Alliance 2wk [Game 3]: 8 of 15 nations available.

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Hi Clint

What's a gunboat alliance game?

  The following new games are filling up.
  2950 2wk [Game 26]: 15 nations available. [2/7]
  1650 2wk [Game 02]: 2 nations available. [15/8]
  1000 2wk [Game 49]: 15 nations available.
  UW 2wk [Game 209]: 6 nations available.
  1650 GB 2wk (Game1):12 nations available. 30 word diplo Latest GB rules apply.
  1650 GB Alliance 2wk [Game 3]: 8 of 15 nations available.

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2

It's a variant game.

Clint

Hi Clint

What's a gunboat alliance game?

The following new games are filling up.
2950 2wk [Game 26]: 15 nations available. [2/7]
1650 2wk [Game 02]: 2 nations available. [15/8]
1000 2wk [Game 49]: 15 nations available.
UW 2wk [Game 209]: 6 nations available.
1650 GB 2wk (Game1):12 nations available. 30 word diplo Latest GB rules apply.
1650 GB Alliance 2wk [Game 3]: 8 of 15 nations available.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

     Middle Earth Games Ltd

Website: <http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com

Email: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com

Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880

Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST

Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)

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At 17:30 10/02/09, you wrote:

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Middle Earth Games Ltd

Website: <http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com

Email: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com

Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880

Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST

Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)

Hi Clint

I was hoping for some details of how it differs from a normal game of gunboat.

I've looked on the ME website and can't see a description of this variant.

  http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2

  It's a variant game.

  Clint

  >Hi Clint
  >
  >What's a gunboat alliance game?
  >
  >The following new games are filling up.
  >2950 2wk [Game 26]: 15 nations available. [2/7]
  >1650 2wk [Game 02]: 2 nations available. [15/8]
  >1000 2wk [Game 49]: 15 nations available.
  >UW 2wk [Game 209]: 6 nations available.
  >1650 GB 2wk (Game1):12 nations available. 30 word diplo Latest GB rules apply.
  >1650 GB Alliance 2wk [Game 3]: 8 of 15 nations available.
  >
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  >
  >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  >
  >

  Middle Earth Games Ltd

  Website: <http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com

  Email: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com

  Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
  US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880

  Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
  UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
  (Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
  US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST

  Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)

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At 17:30 10/02/09, you wrote:

  ----------

  Middle Earth Games Ltd

  Website: <http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com

  Email: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com

  Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
  US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880

  Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
  UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
  (Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
  US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST

  Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)

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Hi David did you read the description by Mick. I agree it's a similar format to GB but instead of 6v6 duos it's 5v5 with 5 neutrals and 500 word diplo per turn etc

<http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2>http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2

and look back to page 1 as well if you've not done that already.
Clint

Hi Clint

I was hoping for some details of how it differs from a normal game of gunboat.

I've looked on the ME website and can't see a description of this variant.

<http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2>http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2

It's a variant game.

Clint

>Hi Clint
>
>What's a gunboat alliance game?
>
>The following new games are filling up.
>2950 2wk [Game 26]: 15 nations available. [2/7]
>1650 2wk [Game 02]: 2 nations available. [15/8]
>1000 2wk [Game 49]: 15 nations available.
>UW 2wk [Game 209]: 6 nations available.
>1650 GB 2wk (Game1):12 nations available. 30 word diplo Latest GB rules apply.
>1650 GB Alliance 2wk [Game 3]: 8 of 15 nations available.
>
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Middle Earth Games Ltd

Website: <<http://www.middleearthgames.com>http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com

Email: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com><mailto:me%40middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com

Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880

Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST

Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)

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Middle Earth Games Ltd

Website: <<http://www.middleearthgames.com>http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com

Email: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com><mailto:me%40middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com

Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880

Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST

Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)

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     Middle Earth Games Ltd

Website: <http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com

Email: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com

Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880

Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST

Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)

···

At 17:01 11/02/09, you wrote:

At 17:30 10/02/09, you wrote:

----------

Middle Earth Games Ltd

Website: <http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com

Email: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com

Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880

Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST

Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)

Rules for Alliance Game

Nation Selection-(15 selection options in total)
* One nation per neutral player
-Dunlending
-Rhuadar
-Corsair
-Haradwaith
-Easterling

* One of the following five dark servants combinations for each dark player:
-Dark Lieutenant/Dragon Lord
-Ice King/Long Rider
-Dog Lord/Blinder Sorceror
-Quiet Avenger/Fire King
-Witch King/Cloud Lord

* One of the following five free people combinations for each free player:
-Noldo Elves/Northmen
-Arthedain/Woodmen
-Cardolan/Sinda Elves
-Northern Gondor/Dwarf
-Southern Gondor/Eothraim

* 3 nation selections are required (more is helpful).

Diplos and information sharing
* Each player may send 1 message per turn to each "faction". The DS are one faction, the FP are another faction and each neutral nation counts as an individual faction. You do not have to send to all in your faction, you can name the parties to receive your message. Factions are determined as of turn start meaning a neutral who declares will still receive his neutral factional message, but not the one for the alliance they join.

* Messages may be no more than 500 words at maximum. This should allow comprehensive communication of thoughts and intent, while putting a pratical restriction of message length. If you are even 1 word over 500 then the entire message will be blocked. This is to discourage the player to create messages that long and to represent that large messages will be intercepted by insurgents.

* Posting of information or discussion on forums is allowed 5 turns after the event. When turn 6 results come in you can post/discuss anything you wish from turn 1 results. Likewise when turn 7 results are received you may post or discuss information from turn 2 results and so on. This allows teams to share files, but only well after the event. It reflects the evential disemination of information and allows for lively banter between players.

* You can send diplos with your first set of orders, but not before the game starts.

Winning
* First, Second and Third place finishers are determined by nation score plus Individual Nation VCs. A 200pt bonus for One Ring victory if you are nation who delivers One Ring to Mt Doom (3423). First place finisher must be on the winning side. 2nd and 3rd place do not have to be on the winning side.

* Game ends when one One Ring victory occurs or when one allegiance (DS,FP) outnumbers the other by more than 3:2 in active nations or when more than 1/2 of players on one allegiance (DS,FP) concede (dead nations do not count as a vote). Request for voting can be sent in at any time, with a maximum of once per 5 turns (so turns 1-5, 6-10, 11-15 etc), and we'll email the players with the next turn. The game is concluded after 50 turns with a tactical victory to the side with the most nations remaining.

* After the game has finished, the total points that each nation received is revealed, both with and without individual nation VCs. Each individual player's nation is not identified unless the player decides to do so of their own volition.

Other miscellaneous rules
* Character interaction is uncontrolled by game moderators. You can do anything to any nation in any hex. If you want to inf other an enemy camp because of camp conflict go ahead. I you have a victory condition of kill an allied character then so be it. Just expect a fairly aggresive reply from your "ally", don't be surprised if allies drop over these sort of issues.

* Players may be replaced. Free People and Dark Servant nations will be offered to players in game 1st, but the maximum of 2 nations per player is still applicable. This means only alligned nation players that have lost one nation can pick up a second. No player can pick up a nation which results in playing two agent based nations. Agent based nations are those with +20 kill, stealth, or double scout. A neutral that has declared can also request to pick up a second nation once he has allied, but not prior. Should no candidate within the game wish to accept the take up option, it will then be offered to external players. Neutral nations will only be available to those not currently within the game.

* Additional charges: an additional fee may be charged, The moderators can expect anything around 100 emails per turn. This results in many extra hours extra work per turn. Clint will keep us posted on how this goes.

Hopefully this complies with the requests for players that provided feedback and entices some other into the game also.

Regards

Mike
<mailto:johncock@bold.net.au>johncock@bold.net.au

Hi Clint

I was hoping for some details of how it differs from a normal game of gunboat.

I've looked on the ME website and can't see a description of this variant.

<http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2>http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2

It's a variant game.

Clint

>Hi Clint
>
>What's a gunboat alliance game?
>
>The following new games are filling up.
>2950 2wk [Game 26]: 15 nations available. [2/7]
>1650 2wk [Game 02]: 2 nations available. [15/8]
>1000 2wk [Game 49]: 15 nations available.
>UW 2wk [Game 209]: 6 nations available.
>1650 GB 2wk (Game1):12 nations available. 30 word diplo Latest GB rules apply.
>1650 GB Alliance 2wk [Game 3]: 8 of 15 nations available.
>
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>
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Middle Earth Games Ltd

Website: <<http://www.middleearthgames.com>http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com

Email: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com><mailto:me%40middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com

Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880

Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST

Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)

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Middle Earth Games Ltd

Website: <<http://www.middleearthgames.com>http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com

Email: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com><mailto:me%40middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com

Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880

Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST

Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)

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     Middle Earth Games Ltd

Website: <http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com

Email: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com

Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880

Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST

Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)

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At 17:01 11/02/09, you wrote:

At 17:30 10/02/09, you wrote:

----------

Middle Earth Games Ltd

Website: <http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com

Email: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com

Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880

Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST

Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)

Actually David there is no 'team', which is the main difference. Just like the old GSI days, the QA and SG can gang up on Harad--plenty of loot for alll. The 'team' obsession has been a Harley one, and not that of the game designers.
Ed

Hi David did you read the description by Mick. I agree it's a similar format to GB but instead of 6v6 duos it's 5v5 with 5 neutrals and 500 word diplo per turn etc<http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2>http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2and look back to page 1 as well if you've not done that already.ClintAt 17:01 11/02/09, you wrote:>Hi Clint>>I was hoping for some details of how it differs from a normal game of gunboat.>>I've looked on the ME website and can't see a description of this variant.>><http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2>http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2>>It's a variant game.>>Clint>>At 17:30 10/02/09, you wrote:>> >Hi Clint> >> >What's a gunboat alliance game?> >> >The following new games are filling up.> >2950 2wk [Game 26]: 15 nations available. [2/7]> >1650 2wk [Game 02]: 2 nations available. [15/8]> >1000 2wk [Game 49]: 15 nations available.> >UW 2wk [Game 209]: 6 nations available.> >1650 GB 2wk (Game1):12 nations available. 30 word diplo Latest GB > rules apply.> >1650 GB Alliance 2wk [Game 3]: 8 of 15 nations available.> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> >> >>>Middle Earth Games Ltd>>Website: ><<http://www.middleearthgames.com>http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com>>Email: ><mailto:me@middleearthgames.com><mailto:me%40middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com>>Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK>US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880>>Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)>UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)>(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)>US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST>>Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)>>---------->>Middle Earth Games Ltd>>Website: ><<http://www.middleearthgames.com>http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com>>Email: ><mailto:me@middleearthgames.com><mailto:me%40middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com>>Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK>US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880>>Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)>UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)>(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)>US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST>>Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]>>Middle Earth Games LtdWebsite: <http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.comEmail: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.comPost: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UKUS: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)US Phone: (732) 642-8777 ESTFax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)----------Middle Earth Games LtdWebsite: <http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.comEmail: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.comPost: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UKUS: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)US Phone: (732) 642-8777 ESTFax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)

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Or maybe the 'team' obsession was a Tolkien one....

Ovatha Easterling wrote:

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Actually David there is no 'team', which is the main difference. Just like the old GSI days, the QA and SG can gang up on Harad--plenty of loot for alll. The 'team' obsession has been a Harley one, and not that of the game designers.
Ed

To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.comFrom: me@MiddleEarthGames.comDate: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:22:45 +0000Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Games filling

Hi David did you read the description by Mick. I agree it's a similar format to GB but instead of 6v6 duos it's 5v5 with 5 neutrals and 500 word diplo per turn etc<http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2>http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2and look back to page 1 as well if you've not done that already.ClintAt 17:01 11/02/09, you wrote:>Hi Clint>>I was hoping for some details of how it differs from a normal game of gunboat.>>I've looked on the ME website and can't see a description of this variant.>><http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2>http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2>>It's a variant game.>>Clint>>At 17:30 10/02/09, you wrote:>> >Hi Clint> >> >What's a gunboat alliance game?> >> >The following new games are filling up.> >2950 2wk [Game 26]: 15 nations available. [2/7]> >1650 2wk [Game 02]: 2 nations available. [15/8]> >1000 2wk [Game 49]: 15 nations available.> >UW 2wk [Game 209]: 6 nations available.> >1650 GB 2wk (Game1):12 nations available. 30 word diplo Latest GB > rules apply.> >1650 GB Alliance 2wk [Game 3]: 8 of 15 nations available.> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> >> >>>Middle Earth Games Ltd>>Website: ><<http://www.middleearthgames.com>http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com>>Email: ><mailto:me@middleearthgames.com><mailto:me%40middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com>>Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK>US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880>>Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)>UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)>(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)>US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST>>Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)>>---------->>Middle Earth Games Ltd>>Website: ><<http://www.middleearthgames.com>http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com>>Email: ><mailto:me@middleearthgames.com><mailto:me%40middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com>>Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK>US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880>>Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)>UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)>(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)>US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST>>Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]>>Middle Earth Games LtdWebsite: <http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.comEmail: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.comPost: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UKUS: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)US Phone: (732) 642-8777 ESTFax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)----------Middle Earth Games LtdWebsite: <http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.comEmail: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.comPost: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UKUS: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)US Phone: (732) 642-8777 ESTFax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)

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Ach~! You mean, if y'all just put aside your petty differences and work together for once you might just save the world finally..??? Dontcha think you're reading a liiiittttle too much into those old books? Piffle on all that moralizing - you need the 'a' in front of it.. Loot~! Loot~! Loot~! THAT's what Tolkein really tried to write, he just had a lame editor is all.

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--- On Thu, 2/12/09, Tony & Janette <janton@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Or maybe the 'team' obsession was a Tolkien one....

Ovatha Easterling wrote:

Actually David there is no 'team', which is

the main difference. Just like the old GSI days, the QA and
SG can gang up on Harad--plenty of loot for alll. The
'team' obsession has been a Harley one, and not that
of the game designers.
Ed

Hi

I hadn't seen Mike's description. Sounds like fun.

I like variant games although I made a dog's breakfast of the last one I was in.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ovatha Easterling" <ovatha88@hotmail.com>
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Actually David there is no 'team', which is the main difference. Just like the old GSI days, the QA and SG can gang up on Harad--plenty of loot for alll. The 'team' obsession has been a Harley one, and not that of the game designers.
Ed

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Hi David did you read the description by Mick. I agree it's a similar format to GB but instead of 6v6 duos it's 5v5 with 5 neutrals and 500 word diplo per turn etc<http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2>http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2and look back to page 1 as well if you've not done that already.ClintAt 17:01 11/02/09, you wrote:>Hi Clint>>I was hoping for some details of how it differs from a normal game of gunboat.>>I've looked on the ME website and can't see a description of this variant.>><http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2>http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2>>It's a variant game.>>Clint>>At 17:30 10/02/09, you wrote:>> >Hi Clint> >> >What's a gunboat alliance game?> >> >The following new games are filling up.> >2950 2wk [Game 26]: 15 nations available. [2/7]> >1650 2wk [Game 02]: 2 nations available. [15/8]> >1000 2wk [Game 49]: 15 nations available.> >UW 2wk [Game 209]: 6 nations available.> >1650 GB 2wk (Game1):12 nations available. 30 word diplo Latest GB > rules apply.> >1650 GB Alliance 2wk [Game 3]: 8 of 15 nations available.> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> >> >>>Middle Earth Games Ltd>>Website: ><<http://www.middleearthgames.com>http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com>>Email: ><mailto:me@middleearthgames.com><mailto:me%40middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com>>Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK>US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880>>Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)>UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)>(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)>US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST>>Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)>>---------->>Middle Earth Games

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David:
Great. Assuming you survive :), write an article on the difference in the game concepts: The structured versus the unstructured, the moral versus the amoral, etc.
Ed

HiI hadn't seen Mike's description. Sounds like fun.I like variant games although I made a dog's breakfast of the last one I was in.----- Original Message ----- From: "Ovatha Easterling" <ovatha88@hotmail.com>To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:27 PMSubject: RE: [mepbmlist] Games fillingActually David there is no 'team', which is the main difference. Just like the old GSI days, the QA and SG can gang up on Harad--plenty of loot for alll. The 'team' obsession has been a Harley one, and not that of the game designers.EdTo: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.comFrom: me@MiddleEarthGames.comDate: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:22:45 +0000Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Games fillingHi David did you read the description by Mick. I agree it's a similar format to GB but instead of 6v6 duos it's 5v5 with 5 neutrals and 500 word diplo per turn etc<http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2>http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2and look back to page 1 as well if you've not done that already.ClintAt 17:01 11/02/09, you wrote:>Hi Clint>>I was hoping for some details of how it differs from a normal game of gunboat.>>I've looked on the ME website and can't see a description of this variant.>><http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2>http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2>>It's a variant game.>>Clint>>At 17:30 10/02/09, you wrote:>> >Hi Clint> >> >What's a gunboat alliance game?> >> >The following new games are filling up.> >2950 2wk [Game 26]: 15 nations available. [2/7]> >1650 2wk [Game 02]: 2 nations available. [15/8]> >1000 2wk [Game 49]: 15 nations available.> >UW 2wk [Game 209]: 6 nations available.> >1650 GB 2wk (Game1):12 nations available. 30 word diplo Latest GB > rules apply.> >1650 GB Alliance 2wk [Game 3]: 8 of 15 nations available.> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> >> >>>Middle Earth Games Ltd>>Website: ><<http://www.middleearthgames.com>http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com>>Email: ><mailto:me@middleearthgames.com><mailto:me%40middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com>>Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK>US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880>>Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)>UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)>(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)>US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST>>Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)>>---------->>Middle Earth Games Ltd>>Website: ><<http://www.middleearthgames.com>http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com>>Email: ><mailto:me@middleearthgames.com><mailto:me%40middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com>>Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK>US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880>>Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)>UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)>(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)>US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST>>Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]>>Middle Earth Games LtdWebsite: <http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.comEmail: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.comPost: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UKUS: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)US Phone: (732) 642-8777 ESTFax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)----------Middle Earth Games LtdWebsite: <http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.comEmail: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.comPost: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UKUS: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)US Phone: (732) 642-8777 ESTFax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)__________________________________________________________Windows LiveT: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect.http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_022009[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]------------------------------------Middle Earth PBM - hit reply to send to everyoneTo Unsubscribe: http://www.yahoogroups.comWebsite: http://www.MiddleEarthGames.comYahoo! Groups Links

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One duo left in the below game. If you want to try something different get back to us quickly as I'm reasonably sure it won't last the w/end.

Clint

Rules for Alliance Game

Nation Selection-(15 selection options in total)
* One nation per neutral player
-Dunlending
-Rhuadar
-Corsair
-Haradwaith
-Easterling

* One of the following five dark servants combinations for each dark player:
-Dark Lieutenant/Dragon Lord
-Ice King/Long Rider
-Dog Lord/Blinder Sorceror
-Quiet Avenger/Fire King
-Witch King/Cloud Lord

* One of the following five free people combinations for each free player:
-Noldo Elves/Northmen
-Arthedain/Woodmen
-Cardolan/Sinda Elves
-Northern Gondor/Dwarf
-Southern Gondor/Eothraim

* 3 nation selections are required (more is helpful).

Diplos and information sharing
* Each player may send 1 message per turn to each "faction". The DS
are one faction, the FP are another faction and each neutral nation
counts as an individual faction. You do not have to send to all in
your faction, you can name the parties to receive your message.
Factions are determined as of turn start meaning a neutral who
declares will still receive his neutral factional message, but not
the one for the alliance they join.

* Messages may be no more than 500 words at maximum. This should
allow comprehensive communication of thoughts and intent, while
putting a pratical restriction of message length. If you are even 1
word over 500 then the entire message will be blocked. This is to
discourage the player to create messages that long and to represent
that large messages will be intercepted by insurgents.

* Posting of information or discussion on forums is allowed 5 turns
after the event. When turn 6 results come in you can post/discuss
anything you wish from turn 1 results. Likewise when turn 7 results
are received you may post or discuss information from turn 2 results
and so on. This allows teams to share files, but only well after the
event. It reflects the evential disemination of information and
allows for lively banter between players.

* You can send diplos with your first set of orders, but not before
the game starts.

Winning
* First, Second and Third place finishers are determined by nation
score plus Individual Nation VCs. A 200pt bonus for One Ring victory
if you are nation who delivers One Ring to Mt Doom (3423). First
place finisher must be on the winning side. 2nd and 3rd place do not
have to be on the winning side.

* Game ends when one One Ring victory occurs or when one allegiance
(DS,FP) outnumbers the other by more than 3:2 in active nations or
when more than 1/2 of players on one allegiance (DS,FP) concede (dead
nations do not count as a vote). Request for voting can be sent in at
any time, with a maximum of once per 5 turns (so turns 1-5, 6-10,
11-15 etc), and we'll email the players with the next turn. The game
is concluded after 50 turns with a tactical victory to the side with
the most nations remaining.

* After the game has finished, the total points that each nation
received is revealed, both with and without individual nation VCs.
Each individual player's nation is not identified unless the player
decides to do so of their own volition.

Other miscellaneous rules
* Character interaction is uncontrolled by game moderators. You can
do anything to any nation in any hex. If you want to inf other an
enemy camp because of camp conflict go ahead. I you have a victory
condition of kill an allied character then so be it. Just expect a
fairly aggresive reply from your "ally", don't be surprised if allies
drop over these sort of issues.

* Players may be replaced. Free People and Dark Servant nations will
be offered to players in game 1st, but the maximum of 2 nations per
player is still applicable. This means only alligned nation players
that have lost one nation can pick up a second. No player can pick up
a nation which results in playing two agent based nations. Agent
based nations are those with +20 kill, stealth, or double scout. A
neutral that has declared can also request to pick up a second nation
once he has allied, but not prior. Should no candidate within the
game wish to accept the take up option, it will then be offered to
external players. Neutral nations will only be available to those not
currently within the game.

* Additional charges: an additional fee may be charged, The
moderators can expect anything around 100 emails per turn. This
results in many extra hours extra work per turn. Clint will keep us
posted on how this goes.

Hopefully this complies with the requests for players that provided
feedback and entices some other into the game also.

Regards

Mike
<mailto:johncock@bold.net.au><mailto:johncock%40bold.net.au>johncock@bold.net.au

>Hi Clint
>
>I was hoping for some details of how it differs from a normal game of gunboat.
>
>I've looked on the ME website and can't see a description of this variant.
>
><<http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2>http://mepbm .com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2>http://mepbm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9703&page=2
>
>It's a variant game.
>
>Clint
>
> >Hi Clint
> >
> >What's a gunboat alliance game?
> >
> >The following new games are filling up.
> >2950 2wk [Game 26]: 15 nations available. [2/7]
> >1650 2wk [Game 02]: 2 nations available. [15/8]
> >1000 2wk [Game 49]: 15 nations available.
> >UW 2wk [Game 209]: 6 nations available.
> >1650 GB 2wk (Game1):12 nations available. 30 word diplo Latest GB
> rules apply.
> >1650 GB Alliance 2wk [Game 3]: 8 of 15 nations available.
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>Middle Earth Games Ltd
>
>Website:
><<<http://www.middleearthgames.com>http://www.middleearthgames.com> http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com
>
>Email:
><mailto:me@middleearthgames.com><mailto:me%40middleearthgames.com>< mailto:me%40middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com
>
>Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
>US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880
>
>Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
>UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
>(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
>US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST
>
>Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)
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>
>Website:
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>
>Email:
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>
>Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
>US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880
>
>Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
>UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
>(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
>US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST
>
>Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)
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Middle Earth Games Ltd

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Email: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com><mailto:me%40middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com

Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880

Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST

Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)

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Middle Earth Games Ltd

Website: <<http://www.middleearthgames.com>http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com

Email: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com><mailto:me%40middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com

Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880

Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST

Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)

     Middle Earth Games Ltd

Website: <http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com

Email: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com

Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880

Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST

Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)

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At 12:23 12/02/09, you wrote:

At 17:01 11/02/09, you wrote:
>At 17:30 10/02/09, you wrote:

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Middle Earth Games Ltd

Website: <http://www.middleearthgames.com>www.middleearthgames.com

Email: <mailto:me@middleearthgames.com>me@middleearthgames.com

Post: UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: ME Games Ltd, 73 Edgewood Terrace, South Bound Brook NJ 08880

Telephone: Phone Times: 10am-6:30pm UK Time (BST); 5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main engaged)
(Dial 011 44 29 2091 3359 if in the US)
US Phone: (732) 642-8777 EST

Fax: 029 2062 5532 (24 hours)