Nice pairings as much as it pains me to say that publicly. I would likely give these pairings a whirl.
FP still get hammered but without changing SNA’s and beefing up FP characters, that will always occur unless there is great disparity in player talent
Angulion starts with it going by memory FWIW.
Okay, thanks. Will change my sheet, Angulion is 1650 Pectoral starter, thought it was lost in 2950. Updated now, cheers,
Brad
Hya Mark - I’m not a fan of the WW (as DS) being left out to dry. If it’s left alone in the Gap of Rohan then it’s a dead-man walking and if it has the Dunlendings to help out then. ALSO it takes away a big Curse character from the DS and gives it to the FP so I think it advantages the FP that way.
I agree that we could play with some of the pairings to effectively do the same thing though. (Silvans with Noldo or Silvans with WW are pretty much the same).
I’m not saying it’s all about the curses - rather that I think it addresses that aspect of the game reasonably well.
If anyone can see better ways to balance the game that would be useful.
Clint
If you get down to it, a curse squad is not what Gunboat is about. A grudge game is about forming a curse squad quickly and early. Gunboat does not have that luxury because you are relegated to your own pair of nations and must play to their strengths. If anything, Gunboat is driven by managing one’s finances above anything else since there are no teammates to help bail traditionally debt-laden nations out of trouble. Money drives everything. Early game means little in Gunboat in my opinion because of the lack of communication and limited resources available. If anything, one is driven to strike hard with any/all starting armies as quickly as possible and then prepare for the mid-game economics/character war which is determined by how much and well someone devotes early on. There is give and take everywhere. Cripple your opponent early on economically and keep hammering.
Every gunboat game I’ve played I’ve had the opposing teams hammer my starting pop centers. But I always planned for this, built up my economy by any means necessary, and survived. Any nation I’ve ever lost in a GB game was because I screwed up something to do with money and not because I was eliminated by someone else’s good play.
- Ben
Replace the WM chal bonus with Name 40A would be a much needed boost though I know you all dont do code.
Make Dorlas (Silvan) a 50M
FP have many more useless characters than DS
Give Rohan another 40M to conjure with.
Towers on 4217 and 4318
All for now
Steve - I’ve thought about doing a lot of changes to the 2950 scenario both in GB and normal game formats. I would prefer not to do that. Minor edits take us hours to sort out (the database is dire). I was looking at how to get the duos correct - then try them before going onto the more difficult “fixes”. 1000 now takes us an age to do the actual set-up work although I think (and most players seem to agree) it’s superior to what it was.
Ben - although I’m not saying it’s all about Curses this is one advantage that I can give the FP - 2950 GB usually last a long time so Curse/Sick capabaility does occur and the longer a game lasts the more character orientated it becomes.
Clint
Already gave you a thumbs-up on your pairings. I would play under those pairs
There are not a lot of 2950 games if you did decide to at least bump a couple of FP characters. Much less work than FA.
Everybody seems to like Dw/NM over Dw/Dun. Certainly focuses the Dwarves a bit.
- Steve M.