I have a question

mepbmlist
#1

Hmm, the Nazgul attempting to murder the hobbits in Bree? Orcs ambushing and slaying Isildur and heirs while he was heading to the North Kingdom? Remember this game functions in generalisms, so say for instance, if a "bad man" hires a bunch of thugs, and sicks them on an unsuspecting emmie, I would call this an "assassination" ...or say, if a female agent bribes a guard and tells him that she is a gift for the commander, a camp follower, this could be an assassination...planning a rock slide when the vanguard of an army wanders by that takes out the commander, an "assassination". The problem stems from the fact that the connotation people take from the term assassination is I take a knife and stab you in the back. That is not the case. In this game it is meerly using subterfuge in some way to kill someone in a means they are not expecting. Same general concept for kidnapping...

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From: "Kevin Brown" <mornhm@soltec.net>
Reply-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mepbmlist] I have a question
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:46:07 -0000

A lot is being bandied about what is in the book and what isn't. What
would be the basis for assassin's in the ME books? Burglars, spies,
saboteurs (with armies) and kidnappers are easy, but assassin's?

Kevin

#2

There should at least be a chance that part of an army would stay
together for a limited amount of time.

--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Kenneth Weed" <watakshi@h...>
wrote:

Hmm, the Nazgul attempting to murder the hobbits in Bree? Orcs

ambushing

and slaying Isildur and heirs while he was heading to the North

Kingdom?

Remember this game functions in generalisms, so say for instance,

if a "bad

man" hires a bunch of thugs, and sicks them on an unsuspecting

emmie, I

would call this an "assassination" ...or say, if a female agent

bribes a

guard and tells him that she is a gift for the commander, a camp

follower,

this could be an assassination...planning a rock slide when the

vanguard of

an army wanders by that takes out the commander,

an "assassination". The

problem stems from the fact that the connotation people take from

the term

assassination is I take a knife and stab you in the back. That is

not the

case. In this game it is meerly using subterfuge in some way to

kill

someone in a means they are not expecting. Same general concept

for

kidnapping...

>From: "Kevin Brown" <mornhm@s...>
>Reply-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
>To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [mepbmlist] I have a question
>Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:46:07 -0000
>
>
>A lot is being bandied about what is in the book and what isn't.

What

>would be the basis for assassin's in the ME books? Burglars,

spies,

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>saboteurs (with armies) and kidnappers are easy, but assassin's?
>
>Kevin
>
>
>
>

#3

I agree with Steve.

ie: the "We must carry on for our fallen leader!"
concept.

JCC

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--- sprindeville <stevep@aaisonline.com> wrote:

There should at least be a chance that part of an
army would stay
together for a limited amount of time.

--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Kenneth Weed"
<watakshi@h...>
wrote:
> Hmm, the Nazgul attempting to murder the hobbits
in Bree? Orcs
ambushing
> and slaying Isildur and heirs while he was heading
to the North
Kingdom?
> Remember this game functions in generalisms, so
say for instance,
if a "bad
> man" hires a bunch of thugs, and sicks them on an
unsuspecting
emmie, I
> would call this an "assassination" ...or say, if a
female agent
bribes a
> guard and tells him that she is a gift for the
commander, a camp
follower,
> this could be an assassination...planning a rock
slide when the
vanguard of
> an army wanders by that takes out the commander,
an "assassination". The
> problem stems from the fact that the connotation
people take from
the term
> assassination is I take a knife and stab you in
the back. That is
not the
> case. In this game it is meerly using subterfuge
in some way to
kill
> someone in a means they are not expecting. Same
general concept
for
> kidnapping...
>
> >From: "Kevin Brown" <mornhm@s...>
> >Reply-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
> >To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [mepbmlist] I have a question
> >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:46:07 -0000
> >
> >
> >A lot is being bandied about what is in the book
and what isn't.
What
> >would be the basis for assassin's in the ME
books? Burglars,
spies,
> >saboteurs (with armies) and kidnappers are easy,
but assassin's?
> >
> >Kevin
> >
> >
> >
> >

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#4

The problem with this argument is that you need to seperate realism from
game balance. Of course in reality an army would hang around for a given
time but to bring that into MEPBM would seriously reduce the effectiveness
of agents and curse squads to some degree.

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There should at least be a chance that part of an army would stay
together for a limited amount of time.

#5

The Nazgul attempt is the only one I really think could count as
agent action. The other really strikes me as a small military
operation or personal battle/challenge. The point I was trying to
make is that a lot of posts are being made with a "be true to the (hi)
story" argument for agent actions, and I just don't think ME
according to the author.

I'm liking the idea more and more of agent abilities needing to be
learned like mage spells and then exercising that ability only
improves the ability rank, not the overall agent rank.

Kevin

--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Kenneth Weed" <watakshi@h...>
wrote:

Hmm, the Nazgul attempting to murder the hobbits in Bree? Orcs

ambushing

and slaying Isildur and heirs while he was heading to the North

Kingdom?

Remember this game functions in generalisms, so say for instance,

if a "bad

man" hires a bunch of thugs, and sicks them on an unsuspecting

emmie, I

would call this an "assassination" ...or say, if a female agent

bribes a

guard and tells him that she is a gift for the commander, a camp

follower,

this could be an assassination...planning a rock slide when the

vanguard of

an army wanders by that takes out the commander,

an "assassination". The

problem stems from the fact that the connotation people take from

the term

assassination is I take a knife and stab you in the back. That is

not the

case. In this game it is meerly using subterfuge in some way to

kill

someone in a means they are not expecting. Same general concept

for

kidnapping...

>From: "Kevin Brown" <mornhm@s...>
>Reply-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
>To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [mepbmlist] I have a question
>Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:46:07 -0000
>
>
>A lot is being bandied about what is in the book and what isn't.

What

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>would be the basis for assassin's in the ME books? Burglars, spies,
>saboteurs (with armies) and kidnappers are easy, but assassin's?
>
>Kevin
>
>
>
>

#6

Guys,

The game docs don´t say anything about this, but is there any information
(about locating an artifact) that says the distance (between the mage and
the artifact he's looking for) directly affects the spell result?

Thanks in advance!

Best regards,

Marcelo Cutin
mcutin@superig.com.br
ICQ# 2417328
http://www.livrovermelho.com