KS Gunboat game

I've had a couple of players ask about KS Gunboat so I'm now looking to create a Gunboat game of KS - but with 14 nations it's awkward.

1) We can allocate more points to some nations so it would be 2 duos and 1 triplet per side. The duos would get more points to spend. If so what would be the combination of nations and points extra? Eldacar and Castamr would be key as they give Bribes so I suspect they'd be in the Triplet.

2) Some other solution - where we remove a nation and have 3 duos per side. (I'd suspect the two Neutrals).
What would be the combination of nations here?

Thoughts welcome.

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Why don’t you try make it a Death Match?

One nation, one player and everybody is an enemy.

Give more setup points to weaker nations to balance.

I played it before and it’s lots of fun.

I’d sign up for this one right now.

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On Mar 3, 2017, at 4:49 AM, ME Games Ltd me@MiddleEarthGames.com [mepbmlist] mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com wrote:

I’ve had a couple of players ask about KS Gunboat so I’m now looking
to create a Gunboat game of KS - but with 14 nations it’s awkward.

  1. We can allocate more points to some nations so it would be 2 duos
    and 1 triplet per side. The duos would get more points to spend. If
    so what would be the combination of nations and points
    extra? Eldacar and Castamr would be key as they give Bribes so I
    suspect they’d be in the Triplet.

  2. Some other solution - where we remove a nation and have 3 duos per
    side. (I’d suspect the two Neutrals).
    What would be the combination of nations here?

Thoughts welcome.


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I’d remove the two neutrals and make it 3 doubles per side. As to which nations my best guess would be …

Southron / Hithlum

Witch Realm / Morlean

Castimir / Elendin

Horselords / Quendi

Arnor / Rhovanion

Eldacar / Rebels

Other combinations are possible but you really want a main army nation with a non army nation as well as being in two different theatres if possible.

Gavin

Why don't you try make it a Death Match?
One nation, one player and everybody is an enemy.
Give more setup points to weaker nations to balance.
I played it before and it's lots of fun.
I'd sign up for this one right now.

If you had other players interest then I'd be interested otherwise not as I think these formats don't work well in practice. We've had All Neutral games of FAS and they didn't appear to be successful

Rob

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On Mar 3, 2017, at 4:49 AM, ME Games Ltd ><mailto:me@MiddleEarthGames.com>me@MiddleEarthGames.com >[mepbmlist] ><<mailto:mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I've had a couple of players ask about KS Gunboat so I'm now looking
to create a Gunboat game of KS - but with 14 nations it's awkward.

1) We can allocate more points to some nations so it would be 2 duos
and 1 triplet per side. The duos would get more points to spend. If
so what would be the combination of nations and points
extra? Eldacar and Castamr would be key as they give Bribes so I
suspect they'd be in the Triplet.

2) Some other solution - where we remove a nation and have 3 duos per
side. (I'd suspect the two Neutrals).
What would be the combination of nations here?

Thoughts welcome.

----------

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I kind of like the Deathmatch concept. If you can remove a neutral for a 12v12, I’m assuming you can remove 23 nations for a 1v1? Woodmen vs Northmen - wonder how big my pdf would be when the camp limit is finally reached…??

Brad

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On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 10:20 AM, ME Games Ltd me@MiddleEarthGames.com [mepbmlist] mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Why don’t you try make it a Death Match?
One nation, one player and everybody is an enemy.
Give more setup points to weaker nations to balance.
I played it before and it’s lots of fun.
I’d sign up for this one right now.

If you had other players interest then I’d be
interested otherwise not as I think these formats
don’t work well in practice. We’ve had All
Neutral games of FAS and they didn’t appear to be successful

Rob

On Mar 3, 2017, at 4:49 AM, ME Games Ltd
mailto:me@MiddleEarthGames.comme@MiddleEarthGames.com
[mepbmlist]
<mailto:mepbmlist@yahoogroups.commepbmlist@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I’ve had a couple of players ask about KS Gunboat so I’m now looking
to create a Gunboat game of KS - but with 14 nations it’s awkward.

  1. We can allocate more points to some nations so it would be 2 duos
    and 1 triplet per side. The duos would get more points to spend. If
    so what would be the combination of nations and points
    extra? Eldacar and Castamr would be key as they give Bribes so I
    suspect they’d be in the Triplet.

  2. Some other solution - where we remove a nation and have 3 duos per
    side. (I’d suspect the two Neutrals).
    What would be the combination of nations here?

Thoughts welcome.


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I kind of like the Deathmatch concept.

I'd be happy to run the game IF there are players - problem with this is I need 14 players not 7 or 6... :slight_smile: That's around 3x as hard to get. If you can find players who want it that's fine. Would it be diplomatic?

If you can remove a neutral for a 12v12, I'm assuming you can remove 23 nations for a 1v1? Woodmen vs Northmen - wonder how big my pdf would be when the camp limit is finally reached..??

Yes. We have plans for a 1v1 game that I want to bring in - that has big nations, bigger character limits etc that i think will be a blast.

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At 17:08 03/03/17, you wrote:

Brad

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 10:20 AM, ME Games Ltd >me@MiddleEarthGames.com [mepbmlist] ><<mailto:mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>Why don't you try make it a Death Match?
>One nation, one player and everybody is an enemy.
>Give more setup points to weaker nations to balance.
>I played it before and it's lots of fun.
>I'd sign up for this one right now.

If you had other players interest then I'd be
interested otherwise not as I think these formats
don't work well in practice. We've had All
Neutral games of FAS and they didn't appear to be successful

Rob

>On Mar 3, 2017, at 4:49 AM, ME Games Ltd > ><mailto:me@MiddleEarthGames.com>me@MiddleEarthGames.com > >[mepbmlist] > ><<mailto:mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com><mailto:mepb > mlist@yahoogroups.com>mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>I've had a couple of players ask about KS Gunboat so I'm now looking
>>to create a Gunboat game of KS - but with 14 nations it's awkward.
>>
>>1) We can allocate more points to some nations so it would be 2 duos
>>and 1 triplet per side. The duos would get more points to spend. If
>>so what would be the combination of nations and points
>>extra? Eldacar and Castamr would be key as they give Bribes so I
>>suspect they'd be in the Triplet.
>>
>>2) Some other solution - where we remove a nation and have 3 duos per
>>side. (I'd suspect the two Neutrals).
>>What would be the combination of nations here?
>>
>>Thoughts welcome.
>>
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This is how it could work:

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In ME terms, all diplomacy is set to hated and players can’t change it during the game.

But you know the other players and can arrange some combined actions…

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:43 PM, ME Games Ltd me@MiddleEarthGames.com [mepbmlist] mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com wrote:

At 17:08 03/03/17, you wrote:

I kind of like the Deathmatch concept.

I’d be happy to run the game IF there are players

  • problem with this is I need 14 players not 7 or
    6… :slight_smile: That’s around 3x as hard to get. If you
    can find players who want it that’s fine. Would it be diplomatic?

If you can remove a neutral for a 12v12, I’m

assuming you can remove 23 nations for a

1v1? Woodmen vs Northmen - wonder how big my
pdf would be when the camp limit is finally reached…??

Yes. We have plans for a 1v1 game that I want to
bring in - that has big nations, bigger character
limits etc that i think will be a blast.

Brad

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 10:20 AM, ME Games Ltd

me@MiddleEarthGames.com [mepbmlist]

<mailto:mepbmlist@yahoogroups.commepbmlist@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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Why don’t you try make it a Death Match?

One nation, one player and everybody is an enemy.

Give more setup points to weaker nations to balance.

I played it before and it’s lots of fun.

I’d sign up for this one right now.

If you had other players interest then I’d be

interested otherwise not as I think these formats

don’t work well in practice. We’ve had All

Neutral games of FAS and they didn’t appear to be successful

Rob

On Mar 3, 2017, at 4:49 AM, ME Games Ltd

mailto:me@MiddleEarthGames.comme@MiddleEarthGames.com

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mlist@yahoogroups.com>mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I’ve had a couple of players ask about KS Gunboat so I’m now looking

to create a Gunboat game of KS - but with 14 nations it’s awkward.

  1. We can allocate more points to some nations so it would be 2 duos

and 1 triplet per side. The duos would get more points to spend. If

so what would be the combination of nations and points

extra? Eldacar and Castamr would be key as they give Bribes so I

suspect they’d be in the Triplet.

  1. Some other solution - where we remove a nation and have 3 duos per

side. (I’d suspect the two Neutrals).

What would be the combination of nations here?

Thoughts welcome.


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This looks close to right for me. Any other thoughts out there?

Rob

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At 12:45 03/03/17, you wrote:

I'd remove the two neutrals and make it 3 doubles per side. As to which nations my best guess would be ....

Southron / Hithlum
Witch Realm / Morlean
Castimir / Elendin

Horselords / Quendi
Arnor / Rhovanion
Eldacar / Rebels

Other combinations are possible but you really want a main army nation with a non army nation as well as being in two different theatres if possible.

Gavin

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Only one way to find out at this point, run a game.

I am happy to be a guinea pig.

Rob

Does this mean you#re interested if so get back to me with a list of nations you'd like to play. Off list is best!

Rob

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At 16:49 08/03/17, you wrote:

Only one way to find out at this point, run a game.

I am happy to be a guinea pig.

Rob

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BTW if ever players wanted to do this I'd be happy to have a go at creating it on the fly. Pick 2 nations that you want to play against each other and then off you go... :slight_smile: It would be fine with me and quite a laugh. I'd like a report at the end of the game though... :slight_smile:

Rob

I'm assuming you can remove 23 nations for a 1v1? Woodmen vs Northmen - wonder how big my pdf would be when the camp limit is finally reached..??

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