late turns

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#1

I don't think that would work. Technically I would
send in orders at 11.59pm on the due date and since
they arrived on the date that the orders are due, they
should be accepted.

Um, no. Give me an hour of the day, give me the time zone, and then
give me the date. I don't ask for much, I don't understand why others
should go "oops" and the rest of us sit and wait. What's with this 11:59
stuff? Do you use a particle beam transfer mechanism? Email is unreliable
at best...I have seen replys to this mailing list come through within 5
minutes, others take hours. Go figure. None of this "My email company
says I sent it at such and such a time..." crap, none of this "Post marked by..."
stuff. The due date is the due date. A concession I would accept is that
someone gets to work, compiles orders, starts punching things into the
computer, and when done, before hitting the big red button, makes one last
check around the place for any late orders. Why not? But an entire extra
day just to count to 25 and send an email out to everyone if you don't get
to 25, and make everyone who found a way to figure it all out in the last
month wait..........please..........

So the GM need to process the orders on the NEXT date.
Since they don't work at midnight, they process the
orders during normal working hours on the next date. I
could then sneak in some orders on that date, and hope
my order are accepted.

Thus it's not sneaking. Because of this, the due date is irrelevant,
the next day is the true due date, and then we wait an extra day
because the company would rather annoy the majority for the sake
of possibly making the minority a little happy..........

>
> Especially for us NAmericans.....we have to have the
> turns submitted, essentially, the night BEFORE the
> "due date" and then get our results some time, 2
> days
> later...or 3 if they go back on their written word
> and
> wait an extra day for the 1 week games.....4 day
> game?
>
> Ah well, bugs and problems etc. Not expecting
> anyone
> to have thought of everything before hand.

Whats to thing of ? Harly hasn't changed how it runs
their games, it just that Deft and Harly has different
procedures on when the final cut-off is allowed. Harly
gives people the full 24 hours on the due-date to send
in orders.

No. It gives the due date, and then the 14 or so hours after the
end of the business day on the due date, and then, for however long,
even on the games it said it would not do so, another day.....

Seriously, what is the point of a due date, if the due date is really
sometime, who knows, the NEXT day? I don't get it...I really don't.
Why give your child an 11:00 curfew, if it's okay if they don't come
home until tomorrow, but they're not allowed to stay away for 2 days?
........but they still have a "curfew"......? Is there some bylaw that
the company has to follow but ignore at it's leisure over there....?
It's bloody 11:00 or not. A reasonable time on one day is reasonable.
Why should ANYONE bother sending in orders for Sunday if they "really"
aren't due until Monday, and then won't get processed until Tuesday...

Just
> hoping to see the problems that arise dealt with
> effectively. Especially in this game, I already
> lost
> a turn because of the whole transition and Sunday
> due
> date (I still want an explanation for that...)

The transition (like christmas breaks) pushed
everything back a week ???

Yes. My ONE week email game was a Wednesday game. It was pushed back,
not only the week for Xmas, but until Sunday the following week. And then,
interestingly, my email address was incorrect, so I was not sent my orders until
later on the Monday.....long after I had boarded the plane for a country where
internet is rare, and Adobe non-existent.....I eventually had to download the
program in Spanish.........'nough said.........

> conflicting with my out-of country vacation.
> Starting
> to get bitter. Oh yeah, I also overran an army in
> this
> game..........but didn't....what next?

What did the other side said to the overrun ?

My pdf said overrun. His pdf said nothing. Clint said maybe my
army "forced" it's way by the smaller army, but maybe GSI would
know........He still has army and characters.

thanks
din

p.s I'm part of the 97% that believes nasa didn't land
on the moon. I know the moon landing is fake since I
pointed my torch at the moon, and I didn't get
anything reflected back from the so-called mirrors
that the astro-nots claim to have left behind.

Of course they didn't land there. Do you honestly know anyone
that thinks they did???

pps well maybe I didn't, but it gives us something
else to argue over.

Agree about to make us feel better about our time zone
disputes!!

ppps And I think God caused the oil spill to get back
at Darwin :slight_smile:

God doesn't believe in Darwin, so he wouldn't trash them out of
principle.....or is he really that small minded...???

Regards,

Brad Brunet, wondering how Din voted in the great Aussie
"Dump the Queen" debate.................

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#2

Um, no. Give me an hour of the day, give me the time zone, and then
give me the date.

*** Okay day after the deadline 10am.

Thus it's not sneaking. Because of this, the due date is irrelevant,
the next day is the true due date, and then we wait an extra day
because the company would rather annoy the majority for the sake
of possibly making the minority a little happy..........

Due to the way the takeovers work (we have done this around 10 times now -
ie taken over 10 different games (ME twice so 11?) - and created 2 games)
the bigger the game we took over the less players (despite whatever we do!)
does not hear about the situaion, misunderstands the way things are etc.
(For example how many players out there as a proportion have actually read
the new House Rules? Very low I would guess). So it is catering to these
mistakes/errors/mishaps that are made (both by player and GMs) that I would
hope that the one day delay (in some situations- most games don't have that
delay).

So example: Player has gone on holiday - comes back to find that his postal
address to send turns to is changed, new company etc. What does he do? He
read the literature we sent out (well I would estimate 80% do for the one
page article down to 30% for the house rules) but doesn't understand it.
Various factors later he gets his turn in late. Multiply this for everyone
and games start to die. I guarantee that I have players in YOUR games that
have not got turns in due to one reason or another - why? Who knows? So
with this in mind a (upto) one day delay seems to be slightly rushing it but
catering to those who want their turns done within a reasonable return.

No. It gives the due date, and then the 14 or so hours after the
end of the business day on the due date, and then, for however long,
even on the games it said it would not do so, another day.....

** See above.

Seriously, what is the point of a due date, if the due date is really
sometime, who knows, the NEXT day? I don't get it...I really don't.
Why give your child an 11:00 curfew, if it's okay if they don't come
home until tomorrow, but they're not allowed to stay away for 2 days?

*** Due date means a different thing to what you are used to - why not just
accept that it has a different meaning with a different company and culture?
Eg team game means to DGE players something different to UK players so I am
trying to get everyone used to Grudge = 10 (or12) players on one side, and
that the DGE meaning of Team means a group of more than one but less than 6
players aligned.

........but they still have a "curfew"......? Is there some bylaw that
the company has to follow but ignore at it's leisure over there....?
It's bloody 11:00 or not. A reasonable time on one day is reasonable.
Why should ANYONE bother sending in orders for Sunday if they "really"
aren't due until Monday, and then won't get processed until Tuesday...

Because we are processing all the UK games on time, clockwork as per norm.
(One game got delayed one day I think). The DGE games are experiencing a
(upto) one day delay (most are not) for this turn - I was hoping that
originally everyone would have got the message but that's seems to have been
premature and oevrtly hopeful. so your third (2wk) turn with us will be run
on time. ie during the day of the day after the deadline with the deadline
being 10am. Ie if you send in your turn at 10am by email on that day (or
similarly close) then if we don't get it then TOUGH. :slight_smile:

Yes. My ONE week email game was a Wednesday game. It was pushed back,
not only the week for Xmas, but until Sunday the following week. And

then,

interestingly, my email address was incorrect, so I was not sent my orders

until

later on the Monday.....long after I had boarded the plane for a country

where

internet is rare, and Adobe non-existent.....I eventually had to download

the

program in Spanish.........'nough said.........

** The one week game went out on Monday some 8 hours late due to players not
getting turns in for whatever reasons. We have contacted those lates and
explained the situation to them. The new process date (might be easier to
use that term) is Monday for that game. There has to be some swop around of
due dates I am afraid as we try to get things so that they are the most
efficient.

What did the other side said to the overrun ?

My pdf said overrun. His pdf said nothing. Clint said maybe my
army "forced" it's way by the smaller army, but maybe GSI would
know........He still has army and characters.

This is a different discussion. I am waiting to hear back from GSI -
nothing. I have "ruled" that the over-run did not occur - that there was a
message that was supposed to be "broke past the enemy army" and carry on
from there. I am addressing the "bug" with GSI - nothing more I can do
other than hassle them which I am.

Does that help?

Clint