I guess the sub that hit the fishing boat was using windows too...
Hadn't heard about that incident, but it's a lot more plausible than
a
carrier trying to bully a lighthouse - being that subs often operate
alone, don't have surface search and are often out of radio contact
with
the world, and so on.
hah hah nice one, I'm intrigued as to what is "surface search"? surely
they had radar? periscope? I reckon you might have a bit of explaining
here. Not to mention not picking up the survivors (if you can believe
the distraught jap captain).
Whats the bet 50 years from now the yanks have a web page denying this
one too?
Anyway, friendly fire has always accounted for alot of casulties
throughout the ages, I wonder what the ME version of that is....
hah hah nice one, I'm intrigued as to what is
"surface search"? surely
they had radar? periscope? I reckon you might have a
bit of explaining
here.
maybe they looked, they then went down, then they did
the emergency surface. But the jap training vessel
moved into the wrong place, and being small it wasn't
picked up by the radar. Maybe the sub did see the
japs, felt they were out of the danger zone, but when
they rose the sub went off track and hit the ship.
You could also say why didn't the japs see the sub. As
a fishing boat you would think they would have good
radar to detect the schools of fish/whales they go
after.
I worry about the loonies on CNN who said that the sub
aimed for the japs as a payback for WWII.
but the US have already admitted their sub hit the jap
ship, and not that the jap ship hit the sub.
Not to mention not picking up the survivors
(if you can believe
the distraught jap captain).
I think subs are not meant to pick up unskilled
people, ie they have sloping decks with some nasty
propellers at the back end.
Someone called the coast guard.
Maybe the sub couldn't didn't want to risk getting the
swimmers caught in their undertow/propellers, so they
declined to stand on the surface.
I say let the investigation tell the full story.
shit happens
din
ps back to middle earth ?
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RD: Anybody remember the radio series 'The Navy Lark?' It featured Leslie
Phillips as the world's worst navigating officer. His catch-phrase was
'left hand down a bit' instead of 'port twenty' or whatever. Every episode
he crashed his frigate, HMS Troutbridge, into something at least once.
By coincidence (or maybe not?) the Royal Navy of the time had a REAL frigate
in service, HMS Troubridge (spot the difference). Top brass couldn't
understand why traditional 'goodwill' visits by HMS Troubridge were politely
(or not so politely!) declined by friendly nations until somebody mentioned
the radio show!
Now that IS a true story! The moral is, even if you are proud of your navy,
don't be afraid to make jokes at its expense. If you don't, somebody else
will!
The lighthouse story seems to have been appallingly badly handled by the US
Navy's press relations people. For God's sake, setting up a web page to
deny it? That's just adding fuel to the flames. If it wasn't true, why not
just issue a simple denial and treat it with the contempt it deserved?
Richard.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Din" <din_ohtar@yahoo.com.au>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Lighthouse story
>
> hah hah nice one, I'm intrigued as to what is
> "surface search"? surely
> they had radar? periscope? I reckon you might have a
> bit of explaining
> here.
maybe they looked, they then went down, then they did
the emergency surface. But the jap training vessel
moved into the wrong place, and being small it wasn't
picked up by the radar. Maybe the sub did see the
japs, felt they were out of the danger zone, but when
they rose the sub went off track and hit the ship.
You could also say why didn't the japs see the sub. As
a fishing boat you would think they would have good
radar to detect the schools of fish/whales they go
after.
I worry about the loonies on CNN who said that the sub
aimed for the japs as a payback for WWII.
but the US have already admitted their sub hit the jap
ship, and not that the jap ship hit the sub.
> Not to mention not picking up the survivors
> (if you can believe
> the distraught jap captain).
I think subs are not meant to pick up unskilled
people, ie they have sloping decks with some nasty
propellers at the back end.
Someone called the coast guard.
Maybe the sub couldn't didn't want to risk getting the
swimmers caught in their undertow/propellers, so they
declined to stand on the surface.
RD: Anybody remember the radio series 'The Navy Lark?'
Still very funny after all these years. The Beeb has been slowly releasing
double tapes: I wish they'd get with the program, though, and go for CD
instead! They did for the Goon Show.
