Announcement: Game 33, the first game of the Flagship Challenge Cup, has just been won by the Sarumen, playing DS, and who defeated Filthy Little Hobbitses, who played the FP. Yeah!
We DS would like to swap notes on this game with the vanquished FP, and hope to hear from you soon. After all, you had enough to say earlier on in the game when you were doing well 
Richard.
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Team Breakdown. 2/4 founding members doubled their work hours, family tragedy's, etc. 2 of us kept thing running for the last little bit, but you can't run a team under the conditions we were placed.
So we took the opportunity to challenge clint (us 2 playing 6 nations each vs his 12) instead of playing on in the dark in 33. The other guys couldn't find any replacements for us.
Interesting game, would have been an excellent game for a long time if the guys who started it were able to keep it up, alas, life happens.
Regards,
Brad Brunet former Bradwood of the Sinda/Woodmen
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Announcement: Game 33, the first game of the Flagship Challenge Cup, has just been won by the Sarumen, playing DS, and who defeated Filthy Little Hobbitses, who played the FP. Yeah!
We DS would like to swap notes on this game with the vanquished FP, and hope to hear from you soon. After all, you had enough to say earlier on in the game when you were doing well
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Team Breakdown. 2/4 founding members doubled their work hours, family
tragedy's, etc. 2 of us kept thing running for the last little bit, but you
can't run a team under the conditions we were placed.
So we took the opportunity to challenge clint (us 2 playing 6 nations each
vs his 12) instead of playing on in the dark in 33. The other guys couldn't
find any replacements for us.
Interesting game, would have been an excellent game for a long time if the
guys who started it were able to keep it up, alas, life happens.
Regards,
Brad Brunet former Bradwood of the Sinda/Woodmen
Brad, have I understood you correctly? You had 4 founder members and took
on two more 'new' players = 6. You lost 2 guys due to real-life issues. I
understand and sympathise with that. But you and the other founder member
then jumped ship to play in a new game, leaving the two 'new' players to
sink or swim by their own devices?
I hope I misunderstood, because if that's what you did, it's appallingly
unethical. That's the kind of behaviour that puts new players off.
It was indeed an interesting, demanding and hard-fought game while it
lasted. My team also lost two players including a founder, and finished
with just four playing 3 nations apiece, which goes to show what you can
achieve when you stick together.
If you found the game interesting, I find it hard to understand why you
baled out to start a new one - unless of course, you realized by then that
the tide had turned and you were going to lose anyway?
Richard.
Announcement: Game 33, the first game of the Flagship Challenge Cup, has
just been won by the Sarumen, playing DS, and who defeated Filthy Little
Hobbitses, who played the FP. Yeah!
We DS would like to swap notes on this game with the vanquished FP, and
hope to hear from you soon. After all, you had enough to say earlier on in
the game when you were doing well
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Brad, have I understood you correctly? You had 4 founder members and took
on two more 'new' players = 6. You lost 2 guys due to real-life issues.
I
understand and sympathise with that. But you and the other founder member
then jumped ship to play in a new game, leaving the two 'new' players to
sink or swim by their own devices?I hope I misunderstood, because if that's what you did, it's appallingly
unethical. That's the kind of behaviour that puts new players off.
Richard D, you most certainly have not understood me correctly. Please
allow for the question to be answered before you barge on ahead into
disparaging presumptions.
2 of the founding members of the FP 33 team, it's best and Leaders,
disappeared in the Early Game. They continued to run their nations, though.
As the quality of TEAM play decreased more and more every turn, it became
too much for those of us who remained. Replacements couldn't be found,
opportunities presented themselves, decisions were made. This game ran
against both the intent and the vision of the originating FP. Every turn
was "I hope we get our team back" and every turn was more disappointment on
disappointment.
It was 4 of us playing 2 nations each and 4 others playing 1 nation each, by
the way. Of those 4 players, none were forthcoming to pick up nations and
neither themselves nor myself were able to find replacements willing to
commit to carrying on the game as it was. "Stick a fork in it" was a
comment that found some support, if I remember correctly.
You most certainly did not play the team that you started the game against.
You did beat the team you were playing though. I won't detract from your
team, and as mine no longer exists, I won't force you to endure and childish
bravado like "We would'a beaten y'all!". It was an even match, a game like
we'd been hoping for. Alas, life goes in different directions sometimes.
Brad Brunet
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From: "richard devereux" <rd@pagan-47.fsnet.co.uk
Can someone help!
I thought the Horn of Fear in 1650 allowed you to learn Conjure Mounts.. Is
this true or not since I could not this turn with my Mage and it said this
list is lost as the failed message...
Thanks
Thomas
I believe that you need to cast a research artifact spell on it first,
as even though you may know it has access to conjure mounts, your
character doesn't.
regards
Dave
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> Can someone help!
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At least sometimes, with some artifacts, the secondary powers change from game to game. An example would be artifact #152 which in one game gave access to teleport and in another provided Minor Heal.. Artifacts # 88 and 110 seem to alternate between percieve relations and percieve nation. The mystery and shadow of it all.
Regards, Ed
From: "Grey Squirrel" <greysquirrel@blueyonder.co.uk>
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Subject: [mepbmlist] Help!
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 18:07:47 -0000Can someone help!
I thought the Horn of Fear in 1650 allowed you to learn Conjure Mounts.. Is
this true or not since I could not this turn with my Mage and it said this
list is lost as the failed message...Thanks
Thomas
From: "richard devereux" <rd@pagan-47.fsnet.co.uk
> Brad, have I understood you correctly? You had 4 founder members and
took
> on two more 'new' players = 6. You lost 2 guys due to real-life issues.
I
> understand and sympathise with that. But you and the other founder
member
> then jumped ship to play in a new game, leaving the two 'new' players to
> sink or swim by their own devices?
>
> I hope I misunderstood, because if that's what you did, it's appallingly
> unethical. That's the kind of behaviour that puts new players off.Richard D, you most certainly have not understood me correctly. Please
allow for the question to be answered before you barge on ahead into
disparaging presumptions.2 of the founding members of the FP 33 team, it's best and Leaders,
disappeared in the Early Game. They continued to run their nations,
though.
As the quality of TEAM play decreased more and more every turn, it became
too much for those of us who remained. Replacements couldn't be found,
opportunities presented themselves, decisions were made. This game ran
against both the intent and the vision of the originating FP. Every turn
was "I hope we get our team back" and every turn was more disappointment
on
disappointment.
It was 4 of us playing 2 nations each and 4 others playing 1 nation each,
by
the way. Of those 4 players, none were forthcoming to pick up nations and
neither themselves nor myself were able to find replacements willing to
commit to carrying on the game as it was. "Stick a fork in it" was a
comment that found some support, if I remember correctly.You most certainly did not play the team that you started the game
against.
You did beat the team you were playing though. I won't detract from your
team, and as mine no longer exists, I won't force you to endure and
childish
bravado like "We would'a beaten y'all!". It was an even match, a game
like
we'd been hoping for. Alas, life goes in different directions sometimes.
Brad Brunet
RD: Thanks for the enlightenment Brad, and I apologise for and withdraw any
comments I made which were based on an imperfect understanding of what you
wrote.
I am very surprised that you couldn't find replacement players, and that
none of your 4 players playing one nation each wanted to play two; however
I'll stop there before I upset anybody else
It was a good game while it lasted. We DS noticed that your later team play
was not always of the frighteningly efficient - at times seemingly
clairvoyant - standard which you set early on. That's a compliment to your
starting team, not a disparagement of your later one!
Some of my players would like to exchange pdfs with yours - are you and your
team agreeable?
Richard.
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You don't "have" to cast Research Arty to use the power that it holds, but
you have to cast Research Arty to know what power it holds...if that's
clear.
Brad
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Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: [mepbmlist] Help!
At least sometimes, with some artifacts, the secondary powers change from
game to game. An example would be artifact #152 which in one game gave
access to teleport and in another provided Minor Heal.. Artifacts # 88
and
110 seem to alternate between percieve relations and percieve nation. The
mystery and shadow of it all.
Regards, Ed>From: "Grey Squirrel" <greysquirrel@blueyonder.co.uk>
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>Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 18:07:47 -0000
>
>Can someone help!
>
>I thought the Horn of Fear in 1650 allowed you to learn Conjure Mounts..
Is
>this true or not since I could not this turn with my Mage and it said
this
>list is lost as the failed message...
>
>Thanks
>
>Thomas
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I believe that you need to cast a research artifact spell on it first,
as even though you may know it has access to conjure mounts, your
character doesn't.regards
Dave
RD: I think you are wrong, Dave. If an arti gives conjuring ability, you
don't need to RA first. However the arti in question actually has a RANDOM
secondary power - it isn't always conjuring, altho it seems to be that more
often than not. I have seen it give access to healing spells, for example.
However my answer is the same as the one you gave, altho for different
reason: cast RA on it and see what you get!
Richard.
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Grey Squirrel wrote on 12/12/2004, 18:07:
>
> Can someone help!
>
> I thought the Horn of Fear in 1650 allowed you to learn Conjure
> Mounts.. Is
> this true or not since I could not this turn with my Mage and it said
> this
> list is lost as the failed message...
>
> Thanks
>
> Thomas
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RD: I think you are wrong, Dave. If an arti gives conjuring ability, you
don't need to RA first. However the arti in question actually has a
RANDOM
secondary power - it isn't always conjuring, altho it seems to be that
more
often than not. I have seen it give access to healing spells, for
example.
However my answer is the same as the one you gave, altho for different
reason: cast RA on it and see what you get!Richard.
Thanks Richard...
Well that will make my plans a lot harder to achieve!
Thomas
Hi,
The last 3 games I have played FP the Horn of fear didn't give access to
conjure mounts spell, but mayby another spell as somebody have mention to
you,
I don't know.
Cheers,
Ben
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Emne: [mepbmlist] Help!
Can someone help!
I thought the Horn of Fear in 1650 allowed you to learn Conjure Mounts.. Is
this true or not since I could not this turn with my Mage and it said this
list is lost as the failed message...
Thanks
Thomas
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Did you cast research artifact prior to trying and
access the spell? If not, that could be the problem.
Also, research artifact would tell you if the Horn's
properties have changed.
JCC
--- Benny Nielsen <benny.engsig@get2net.dk> wrote:
Hi,
The last 3 games I have played FP the Horn of fear
didn't give access to
conjure mounts spell, but mayby another spell as
somebody have mention to
you,
I don't know.Cheers,
Ben-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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Emne: [mepbmlist] Help!Can someone help!
I thought the Horn of Fear in 1650 allowed you to
learn Conjure Mounts.. Is
this true or not since I could not this turn with my
Mage and it said this
list is lost as the failed message...Thanks
Thomas
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No I/we didn't.
I don't think players cast RA on Nallagurth to found out
if it gives access to spirit mastery as I have never seen it fail,
when players try to learn those spells.
I just came to that conclusion that it most be error on the website.
I agree.
Cheers,
Ben
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Did you cast research artifact prior to trying and
access the spell? If not, that could be the problem.
Also, research artifact would tell you if the Horn's
properties have changed.
JCC
--- Benny Nielsen <benny.engsig@get2net.dk> wrote:
Hi,
The last 3 games I have played FP the Horn of fear
didn't give access to
conjure mounts spell, but mayby another spell as
somebody have mention to
you,
I don't know.Cheers,
Ben-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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I thought the Horn of Fear in 1650 allowed you to
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Mage and it said this
list is lost as the failed message...Thanks
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I can attest first hand from playing the Dwarves in 1650 that the
secondary powers certainly seem to be randomized. Like you I read
Bobbin's and saw that The Horn of Fear had 'Conjure Mounts' as a
secondary power but upon researching the artifact found a secondary
power of 'Conjure Food'. Is the conjuring randomized? The secondary
power? Who knows? But the lesson learned was that certainly the
artifact list from Bobbin's is not gospel.
Greg
At least sometimes, with some artifacts, the secondary powers
change from
game to game. An example would be artifact #152 which in one game
gave
access to teleport and in another provided Minor Heal.. Artifacts
# 88 and
110 seem to alternate between percieve relations and percieve
nation. The
mystery and shadow of it all.
Regards, Ed>From: "Grey Squirrel" <greysquirrel@b...>
>Reply-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
>To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [mepbmlist] Help!
>Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 18:07:47 -0000
>
>Can someone help!
>
>I thought the Horn of Fear in 1650 allowed you to learn Conjure
Mounts.. Is
>this true or not since I could not this turn with my Mage and it
said this
>list is lost as the failed message...
>
>Thanks
>
>Thomas
>