middle earth in the USA

Harlequin Games is running the middle earth games in the USA for deft ?

I wasn't expecting to see that
m

Nor I. Here's hoping that they haven't bitten off more than they can
chew, and that the service to old players won't suffer as a result.

Good Luck to you Harlequin in the extended venture.

Regards,

Laurence G. Tilley http://www.lgtilley.freeserve.co.uk/

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Michael Peters <mpeters@nskomatsu.com.au> wrote

Harlequin Games is running the middle earth games in the USA for deft ?

I wasn't expecting to see that

Nor I. Here's hoping that they haven't bitten off more than they can
chew, and that the service to old players won't suffer as a result.

Good Luck to you Harlequin in the extended venture.

Regards,

Laurence G. Tilley http://www.lgtilley.freeserve.co.uk/

Thanks to Laurence and all the players who've sent us best wishes! We
appreciate it.

Ed is now working full time and we have recruited Stuart from the US. He was
DGE's main ME guy- a kind of American Clint. So we should definitely have
the manpower to cope with a doubling in workload.

Actually, you should all see an improvement in the game. Firstly the huge
player pool means games fill quickly and we can find 25 players who all want
to play the 'Mages only' variant... :wink:

Also, we have just acquired input checking software which GSI had given DGE
but not us. This should improve our error rate.

Sam

Greetings All,

I'm a US player that just started playing under DGE a year ago. I
read through the December posts & I thought I'd throw my two cents
(pence?) in on the changeover.

Ed is now working full time and we have recruited Stuart from the

US. He was

DGE's main ME guy- a kind of American Clint.

Stuart is the greatest! I've always found him to be prompt, helpful,
and patient. Harlequin is lucky to have him join up. I'm sure
they'll find him a valuable asset.

Actually, you should all see an improvement in the game. Firstly

the huge

player pool means games fill quickly and we can find 25 players who

all want

to play the 'Mages only' variant... :wink:

I didn't see any mention of Fourth Age games in the posts I read,
other than one mention of people not liking it. I love Fourth Age!
I don't think I'd ever want to try the other two scenarios. It
sounds as though those games are largely filled with veterans armed
with complete knowledge of all 25 nations' starting PC locations,
character names/stats, and artifacts. My fear is, as a newbie and
ignorant of all this valuable info, I'd be crushed within 10 turns,
damaging my team's chances for victory.

and setup changes can be made. 2950 & 1650 have to be run as-is per
GSI, n'est pas? I'm wondering how the changeover will affect Fourth
Age and the variant scenarios we are starting to see under DGE.
There's a player named Jeremy that has orginized "LAS" (limited agent
scenario - SNA's 1 [scout at double rank] and 31 [kidnap/assassinate
at +20] disallowed I believe) and "NKA" (orders 615 and 620 are
prohibitted!) variants of the standard FA game. Clint also mentioned
other variations that could be tried. I'd love to hear more details
on how exactly you'd set that up. Maybe just handing out 50K for the
setup and you can split it however you'd like between SNA's, armies,
PC's, and characters.

Comments welcome...

Happy Gaming,
Bob Hopp

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--- In mepbmlist@egroups.com, "Harlequin Games" <pbm@h...> wrote:
From my understanding, Fourth Age is really the only area where rules

rhopp@netzero.net wrote

I didn't see any mention of Fourth Age games in the posts I read,
other than one mention of people not liking it. I love Fourth Age!
I don't think I'd ever want to try the other two scenarios. It
sounds as though those games are largely filled with veterans armed
with complete knowledge of all 25 nations' starting PC locations,
character names/stats, and artifacts.

Yes, but that's why it's much more credible than the stupid FA. In a
real war between nations, you start by knowing the basic geography of
enemy lands, and have an idea of who their leading politicians are, and
their military capability. This enables you to plan your war.
Surprises will come up later, but nothing so crazy as not knowing
whether your immediate neighbour is friend or foe, an agent or military
specialist, or even where his population centres are situated.

My fear is, as a newbie and
ignorant of all this valuable info, I'd be crushed within 10 turns,
damaging my team's chances for victory.

All the startup information is freely available on the web, or in text
files. As a newbie you _should_ be immediately adopted by other players
on the team, and guided through the early stages. That's another reason
I don't like FA, it seems to me not to encourage team play in the same
way that the proper scenarios do, and to me that's why ME is such a good
game. I also get the impression, that Americans tend not to team up as
wholeheartedly as we do, and that some of them even take notice of the
VCs and VPs! That I suppose is another good thing about the Harlequin
take-over - we shall be able to teach you chaps how to play properly :wink:

Regards,

Laurence G. Tilley http://www.lgtilley.freeserve.co.uk/

Clint's viewpoint. - I think it will help things - especially longterm. For
one thing I get to earn some more money... :slight_smile: Also we get to go to the USA
from time to time to that's cool - well warm to hot actually!

From a more serious point of view - the extra players give us more
stability - faster game set-up and a greater pool to take up games when drop
outs occur. Also more variants can now be brought into play. There are just
so many options on the horizon that it would take ages to write them all
down not alone discuss them. I think that service will improve - there will
be the usual panic month when anything that can go wrong will go wrong - but
we've done this a lot now so hopefully can work throught that with minimal
impact on you all.

The US contigent seem to go for more FA games which is good - 11 games of
1650, 7 2950, 12 1000 games with around 7 games ready to set-up in addition
to the UK situation. The ME player is basically doubled and we have some
more up-to-date equipment and versions of the program (Such as the input
checker which we'll be implementing asap).

I think that it will also help guarantee the future of MEPBM as well - the
UK market was growing but I know that elsewhere there are some problems -
this will give them a home to come to if they want it.

Clint

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Michael Peters <mpeters@nskomatsu.com.au> wrote
>Harlequin Games is running the middle earth games in the USA for deft ?
>
>I wasn't expecting to see that
Nor I. Here's hoping that they haven't bitten off more than they can
chew, and that the service to old players won't suffer as a result.

Good Luck to you Harlequin in the extended venture.

Regards,

Laurence G. Tilley http://www.lgtilley.freeserve.co.uk/

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Hya Bob welcome to the UK.

I didn't see any mention of Fourth Age games in the posts I read,
other than one mention of people not liking it. I love Fourth Age!

*** me too -it's my favourite style of ME.

I don't think I'd ever want to try the other two scenarios. It
sounds as though those games are largely filled with veterans armed
with complete knowledge of all 25 nations' starting PC locations,
character names/stats, and artifacts. My fear is, as a newbie and
ignorant of all this valuable info, I'd be crushed within 10 turns,
damaging my team's chances for victory.

*** Not strictly the case from what we have seen. There are lots of
different styles of gaming and although there is lots of infomation out
there FA can be daunting as there is a lot more to learn from the start.
1650 and especially 2950 cut down the learning curve. To each their own
though. We generally try to team up newbie players with experienced players
who are chatty so that they can provide some help. Also I chat a lot so
feel free to contact me if you want!

From my understanding, Fourth Age is really the only area where rules
and setup changes can be made. 2950 & 1650 have to be run as-is per
GSI, n'est pas?

*** We have some varients of 2950 - such as a game where you have increased
PCs to start with - that sort of thing. There are lots of option and with
with ICE no longer on the scene I would hope that things can change further.
We can always hand-mod things after set-up. Be warned if it takes a lot of
extra work we do charge a SMALL fee for this though (it can take us a couple
of days to get the game set-up). So for example we can add in extra
characters OR do a 1650 in FA environment that sort of thing. Generallly I
let the players come up with some weird and wacky ideas and we try to get
them in. Mostly (due to programming considerations) we have to say "sorry
we cannot do that" but it we can and there is a player base then we do!

One of the major differences I see between DGE and MEUK is the way that
set-ups are handled - when I get a spare few days I'll trudge through all
those details and see what can happen.

Clint

I'm wondering how the changeover will affect Fourth

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Age and the variant scenarios we are starting to see under DGE.
There's a player named Jeremy that has orginized "LAS" (limited agent
scenario - SNA's 1 [scout at double rank] and 31 [kidnap/assassinate
at +20] disallowed I believe) and "NKA" (orders 615 and 620 are
prohibitted!) variants of the standard FA game. Clint also mentioned
other variations that could be tried. I'd love to hear more details
on how exactly you'd set that up. Maybe just handing out 50K for the
setup and you can split it however you'd like between SNA's, armies,
PC's, and characters.

Comments welcome...

Happy Gaming,
Bob Hopp

If the World champs are anything to go by the US team is the one to beat!!!
:slight_smile:

Clint

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I also get the impression, that Americans tend not to team up as
wholeheartedly as we do, and that some of them even take notice of the
VCs and VPs! That I suppose is another good thing about the Harlequin
take-over - we shall be able to teach you chaps how to play properly :wink:

Nor us! We are happy (and a little aprehensive although confident) that we
have it - but as you can imagine we have a lot of work on! Two and a half
days holiday is all I got but my family (thankfully) were very forgiving.
9am arrival on Christmas day (with baggage gone missing!) in the UK (we did
get to see Santa on his sledge btw!) not advisable! Falling asleep in the
in-laws on Christmas day was very welcome followed by the 16 hours of
kipping very welcome!

C

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Harlequin Games is running the middle earth games in the USA for deft ?

I wasn't expecting to see that
m

Clint's viewpoint. - I think it will help things - especially longterm.

For

one thing I get to earn some more money... :slight_smile: Also we get to go to the

USA

from time to time to that's cool - well warm to hot actually!

Gee, you're employing ?

b.e.

Thanks for the promo. We're doing our small part to remind all who's been
carrying who for 200-aught years ... :slight_smile:

b (Ben Shushan)
Captain, Team USA (1-0, and counting ... :slight_smile:

Harlequin Games wrote:

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If the World champs are anything to go by the US team is the one to beat!!!
:slight_smile:

Clint

>I also get the impression, that Americans tend not to team up as
> wholeheartedly as we do, and that some of them even take notice of the
> VCs and VPs! That I suppose is another good thing about the Harlequin
> take-over - we shall be able to teach you chaps how to play properly :wink:

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Quick Questions about the 'takeover'...

Will Harlequin be running games from the 'USA office'?
What will happen to the USA postal only players? They will still be able
to send in their turns to be run in the USA won't they? You're not
expecting them to mail Cardiff?

And they can send their cheques to the Harlequin USA branch as well?
(Assuming they don't want to use the 'iniquitous' [copyright L. Tilley]
credit card system?)

I think these are the biggest issues for the yanks. Could you clear these
points up for them?

Apologies if you've explained this already but because of my website I've
had emails from worried American players who think I should know all about
it!!!

Kev

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At 06:41 29/12/00 +0800, you wrote:

Clint's viewpoint. - I think it will help things - especially longterm.

For

one thing I get to earn some more money... :slight_smile: Also we get to go to the

USA

from time to time to that's cool - well warm to hot actually!

Gee, you're employing ?

b.e.

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Hurrah! Yes I've been waiting for an opportune moment to ask on that...
Now that you're a Mid-Atlantic organisation, do I count as an "Overseas
Player"? :wink:

Regards,

Laurence G. Tilley http://www.lgtilley.freeserve.co.uk/

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Kevin <kevin@bobbins71.freeserve.co.uk> wrote

Will Harlequin be running games from the 'USA office'?
What will happen to the USA postal only players? They will still be able
to send in their turns to be run in the USA won't they? You're not
expecting them to mail Cardiff?

And they can send their cheques to the Harlequin USA branch as well?
(Assuming they don't want to use the 'iniquitous' [copyright L. Tilley]
credit card system?)

Uh? Sorry I don't understand.

Clint

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> Clint's viewpoint. - I think it will help things - especially longterm.
For
> one thing I get to earn some more money... :slight_smile: Also we get to go to the
USA
> from time to time to that's cool - well warm to hot actually!
>
Gee, you're employing ?

b.e.

Yeh I have seen this one before - no doubt there are some Euro-opinions on
this... :@-)

Clint

Thanks for the promo. We're doing our small part to remind all who's been
carrying who for 200-aught years ... :slight_smile:

b (Ben Shushan)
Captain, Team USA (1-0, and counting ... :slight_smile:

Harlequin Games wrote:

> If the World champs are anything to go by the US team is the one to

beat!!!

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> :slight_smile:
>
> Clint
>

Will Harlequin be running games from the 'USA office'?

** Nope

What will happen to the USA postal only players?

** We have organised a mail drop address for them to get their turns to and
then they are sent to us the same day. We then send the turns to that
location (in the US) after processing and they get printed out and mailed
out. We have an ExDGE player website for the email available players to
check out. (Forget the name for the moment - will get it sorted tomorrow).

They will still be able
to send in their turns to be run in the USA won't they? You're not
expecting them to mail Cardiff?

*** Nope - we have done a fair bit of research on this and think the mailing
address in California is best - we trust the guys at that end not to mess up
as we licence another of their games (Legends).

And they can send their cheques to the Harlequin USA branch as well?

*** We will get the funds details sent across at the same time, also funds
will be made payable to MEPBM. We will see how many such payments are made
and then reconsider it in a months time - ie if lots then we might open a US
account to have the funds paid into - if not many then we'll just get them
forwarded. Heh cool - we'll be able to have an offshore account... :slight_smile:

(Assuming they don't want to use the 'iniquitous' [copyright L. Tilley]
credit card system?)

** Up to them if they want - most players like it.

I think these are the biggest issues for the yanks. Could you clear these
points up for them?

** Hopefully have. Have I missed something? Please advise if I have - I am
happy to go over this as many times as need be - especially if I have missed
something or not been clear enough.

Apologies if you've explained this already but because of my website I've
had emails from worried American players who think I should know all about
it!!!

*** Please pass them onto us directly if you can Kev. We have sent out a
mailing to the postal players but of course with the quickness of it all
(from the player perspective) and the Christmas post they might not have got
the postal note yet. We are not 100% sure (well we KNOW that some emails
bounced) that everyone has got the information about the takeover yet so
please spread the word. The DGE office is being kept open to forward
turns (faxes/postal/email), and we have several email redirections going on
(they work we have tried them multiple times!)

Hopefully there will be minimal delays in the turns and missed turns - I
would be mis-informing you if I was to say that it will go 100% correctly
but we think we have covered every angle that we can think of (we've done
this close on double figures now for takeover of games so know most of the
pitfalls). But if you think of anything please inform us!

Our biggest headache right now it getting the two systems amalgamated for
the best from both. Sorry for the rush in this all (from player
perspective - we've been working on the deal and more or less agreed it
since October but were honour (or should that be honor?!) bound not to say
anything). One thing that I would like to know is if there is anyone who
has dropped because of the takeover - if so can players give us their
contact details and we can contact them and try to give them some
assurances.

Clint

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Kev

Something like that... :slight_smile:

Clint

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>And they can send their cheques to the Harlequin USA branch as well?
>(Assuming they don't want to use the 'iniquitous' [copyright L. Tilley]
>credit card system?)
Hurrah! Yes I've been waiting for an opportune moment to ask on that...
Now that you're a Mid-Atlantic organisation, do I count as an "Overseas
Player"? :wink:

Regards,

Laurence G. Tilley http://www.lgtilley.freeserve.co.uk/