Name Game?

mepbmlist
#1

greetings

Would names from the WWII be considered offensive such as

"Hitler"?

There is a couple of guys from WWII that I think is potential
offensive. Hitler is one and Himler is another, there is after
all a bunch of German players and others too that may feel,
that those names is to close in history to be good.

I can't believe that churchill and bomber harris are now the bad guys in the
UK. But thats my opinion.

Personally
I think those names are stupid and would love to kill Hitler
or Himler (especially with Morwen or Goldwine Frec).

I remember in an actual M/E game (when I was DS) that I saw Rommel lead some
free troops into the back door of mordor.

After his fun in the invasion of france, Rommel was responsible for the
death of many allies (and Oz) soldiers in Africa (as he led the Africa
Corps), he was later given some responsibility for the defense of the
western front (which also resulted in the death of more allied soldiers). He
ended up taking poison (it was a better option for him than going to trial
over the bomb plot). But I saw no problems with seeing his coming back. I
actually said 'boo hiss (or words a bit harsher), knowing Rommel this army
will have steel/steel HC in his army'.

But I'm fine with WWII names.

Religious names?
Well, one could use Lucifer instead of satan,

Seen that done already. Having the name reversed was also a fad at one
stage. It allowed us to know that a certain person was playing, so we didn't
mind him doing it (know you enemy and all that stuff).

showing at least
a minor knowledge of his naming theme. But i would not ban
those names. And what is Sauron if not a fallen angel like
Lucifer and Mammon?

However some adult might get a 'bit worried' if they see their little jonny
playing a game which has lucifer leading armies that destroy free pop
centres, or see satan as a emissary that corrupts (ala doubles) people. Let
alone kill (ala assassinate) people.

One small problem, sauron is not a real person. A lot of people think that
satan is real (and it isn't Clinton).

If I was GM (ala I hope not), I would never allow names of religious
figures. Too many people take religion seriously for others to treat it in a
non-serious manner.

I think if someone takes something serious, then others should respect that,
and not pick names in that category. I'm sure we can pick lots of other
names without upseting each other (not that stomping on their pop centres,
killing his people, and stealing all his money isn't going to upset them
already - but its a different kind of upset).

Using player names?
Grow up. We may not love each other

I've seen some players, and I think they are sort of cute :slight_smile: - I REALLY
think we need more women players - or work out why they avoid playing.

thanks
m

#2

Michael Peters wrote:

If I was GM (ala I hope not), I would never allow names of religious
figures. Too many people take religion seriously for others to treat it in a
non-serious manner.

So, you would not allow Peter, Paul, John or any linguistic variants
thereon...? Disciples, catholic saints, popes: take your pick. Where do you
draw the line about what constitutes a "religious figure"?

Personally, I always name my lot in the style of the nation I'm playing. I
knew those tables from early copies of Dragon and Alarums and Excursions
would finally come in handy... :slight_smile:

Too many people take religion seriously

I think you missed a full stop there at the end. (Ducks into hidey hole and
waits for the din to subside.) History is far too full of "my religion is
better than yours cos mine's the true religion and yours isn't", usually
followed by a bunch of people getting killed. Then there's the variant, "you
aren't following our religion properly", followed by yet more people dying.
And so on ad nauseum.

Gavin

#3

Michael Peters wrote:

I'm sure we can pick lots of other
names without upseting each other (not that stomping on their pop centres,
killing his people, and stealing all his money isn't going to upset them
already - but its a different kind of upset).

I've seen some players, and I think they are sort of cute :slight_smile: - I REALLY
think we need more women players - or work out why they avoid playing.

I think you answered your question in the last sentence with the statement
in the first. There is much research that shows that, in general, women
prefer games which are cooperative whilst men prefer games in which the
individual challenges all-comers in acquiring "markers", be they for
territory, money, power, you name it. There was a very good series on
Channel 4 a couple of years back which dealt with this. I wish I'd got my
sister to tape it.

Of course, any sensible woman reading this list may well have run for the
hills ages ago... :slight_smile:

Gavin

#4

>> Would names from the WWII be considered offensive such as
>"Hitler"?
>
>There is a couple of guys from WWII that I think is potential
>offensive. Hitler is one and Himler is another, there is after
>all a bunch of German players and others too that may feel,
>that those names is to close in history to be good.

I can't believe that churchill and bomber harris are now the bad guys in the
UK. But thats my opinion.

Who said I was from UK ?
And no one has said a bad word about these guys (in this forum).

> Personally
>I think those names are stupid and would love to kill Hitler
>or Himler (especially with Morwen or Goldwine Frec).

I remember in an actual M/E game (when I was DS) that I saw Rommel lead some
free troops into the back door of mordor.

yeah, game 97 northmen right? (No I didnt play NM).

After his fun in the invasion of france, Rommel was responsible for the
death of many allies (and Oz) soldiers in Africa (as he led the Africa
Corps), he was later given some responsibility for the defense of the
western front (which also resulted in the death of more allied soldiers). He
ended up taking poison (it was a better option for him than going to trial
over the bomb plot). But I saw no problems with seeing his coming back. I
actually said 'boo hiss (or words a bit harsher), knowing Rommel this army
will have steel/steel HC in his army'.

BTW did you know that Rhudaur won 97 as a FP?

But I'm fine with WWII names.

There is a major difference between Rommel and the other two guys.
Rommel was a soldier and a damn good one!
Himler and Hitler was some of the brains behind the holocaust (not only eliminating a lot off jews but also many other of their lesser races).

>
>Religious names?
>Well, one could use Lucifer instead of satan,

Seen that done already. Having the name reversed was also a fad at one
stage. It allowed us to know that a certain person was playing, so we didn't
mind him doing it (know you enemy and all that stuff).

Well I prefer to keep a couple of different themes going even keeping close to tolkiens naming)

> showing at least
>a minor knowledge of his naming theme. But i would not ban
>those names. And what is Sauron if not a fallen angel like
>Lucifer and Mammon?

However some adult might get a 'bit worried' if they see their little jonny
playing a game which has lucifer leading armies that destroy free pop
centres, or see satan as a emissary that corrupts (ala doubles) people. Let
alone kill (ala assassinate) people.

One small problem, sauron is not a real person. A lot of people think that
satan is real (and it isn't Clinton).

If I was GM (ala I hope not), I would never allow names of religious
figures. Too many people take religion seriously for others to treat it in a
non-serious manner.

I agrre that a lot of people takes religion serious and that it their right. But i dont think that many of them will be found playing ME. But I agree that Satan is a bit provocative.

I think if someone takes something serious, then others should respect that,
and not pick names in that category. I'm sure we can pick lots of other
names without upseting each other (not that stomping on their pop centres,
killing his people, and stealing all his money isn't going to upset them
already - but its a different kind of upset).

Basically I agree, but there is a lot of "good" names in the different parthenons and demanding that clint and his lot could remember all of these is unfair to them.

>
>Using player names?
>Grow up. We may not love each other

I've seen some players, and I think they are sort of cute :slight_smile: - I REALLY
think we need more women players - or work out why they avoid playing.

Never seen me :wink:

thanks
m

Henning