(no subject)

RD: I confess I have not solved this riddle in-game, but if you've read
Tolkien's books, esp Silmarilion, the answer is inescapably Sauron.

* Inescapably? Sauron certainly fits the "one who would sow great
discord" line, but I don't think he fits the " ... all his power came from
the ring" line.

* Maybe the answer is ol' Muzzie's original name. After all, the first
line could be interpreted as describing the titles TINDOMUL held in
chronological order; the second line fits him as well as it does Sauron; the
(first half of the) third line would also fit them both; but the last line
would not fit the guy Gandalf didn't want to face even AFTER the Balrog
incident.

* Jim, whatever the correct (in-game) answer is, you gotta let us know as
soon as you find out !!!! :slight_smile:

There is a BIG problem with some riddles because you don't know whether the
answer lies in some obscure Tolkien quote, say from 'Unfinished Tales,' or
from something in the ICE sourcebooks on which the GSI game is based.

Richard.

* I agree. Riddles shouldn't require PhDs in Middle-earth AND Iron Crown
stuff. Also adding to the confusion is that the computer (sometimes) only
accepts a certain name (i.e. 'Aragon,' but not 'Strider,' etc.) or gets picky
over singular/plurals (i.e. 'eggs' but not 'egg').

Well, enough venting! :slight_smile:
Dilip

> > Any help with the following riddle would be appreciated.
> >
> > King, witch, Lord,
> > One who would sow great discord.
> > Though fearful he was, some would sing
> > that all his power came from the ring.
> >
> > I have tried Witch King and Murazor with no luck.
> > Thanks!
> > Jim
> >

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That part about "some would sing"... I'm thinking to look at the songs,
especially those sung in the Council of Elrond as plans were being made.
There maybe some indication of the name to use there. I don't have a copy
of the trilogy here at work, or I'd give more.

-Rob

···

> > Any help with the following riddle would be appreciated.
> >
> > King, witch, Lord,
> > One who would sow great discord.
> > Though fearful he was, some would sing
> > that all his power came from the ring.
> >
> >� �� I have tried Witch King and Murazor with no luck.
> >� � � � � � Thanks!
> >� � � � � � � � Jim
> >

Sauron is NOT the answer. It is one of the variations of the NUMEROUS names
given to the first Lord of the Nazgul. I wish I could help you more Jim,
but there are a lot of choices for you. I also will look to see if I can
find anything in the early version of the giving of the rings to the nine.

Deni

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RD: I confess I have not solved this riddle in-game, but if you've read
Tolkien's books, esp Silmarilion, the answer is inescapably Sauron.

* Inescapably? Sauron certainly fits the "one who would sow great
discord" line, but I don't think he fits the " ... all his power came from
the ring" line.

* Maybe the answer is ol' Muzzie's original name. After all, the first
line could be interpreted as describing the titles TINDOMUL held in
chronological order; the second line fits him as well as it does Sauron; the
(first half of the) third line would also fit them both; but the last line
would not fit the guy Gandalf didn't want to face even AFTER the Balrog
incident.

* Jim, whatever the correct (in-game) answer is, you gotta let us know
as
soon as you find out !!!! :slight_smile:

There is a BIG problem with some riddles because you don't know whether

the

answer lies in some obscure Tolkien quote, say from 'Unfinished Tales,' or
from something in the ICE sourcebooks on which the GSI game is based.

Richard.

* I agree. Riddles shouldn't require PhDs in Middle-earth AND Iron
Crown
stuff. Also adding to the confusion is that the computer (sometimes) only
accepts a certain name (i.e. 'Aragon,' but not 'Strider,' etc.) or gets
picky
over singular/plurals (i.e. 'eggs' but not 'egg').

Well, enough venting! :slight_smile:
Dilip

> > Any help with the following riddle would be appreciated.
> >
> > King, witch, Lord,
> > One who would sow great discord.
> > Though fearful he was, some would sing
> > that all his power came from the ring.
> >
> > I have tried Witch King and Murazor with no luck.
> > Thanks!
> > Jim
> >

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