PRS clear

Darrell, I'll see if I can clarify my previous note (I
was recommending Brad Brunet's simple PRS proposal
from Bree 13):

% games completed
+ % team wins
+ MVP reward
+ comparison of VP score to your nation in past games

Still, rewards greedy play. Punishes good team play.

Actually, only of the four factors -- the last one --
can potentially be increased by greedy play (and even
that is tempered by Fred's addition, below). The
others all reward team focus.

Rewards careful selection of positions and games.

It does the opposite, which is the point of the last
factor: instead of comparing VP's of Rhun to the
Noldo, Rhun is compared to an average of other Rhuns.
That way, players can freely choose the nation they
want to play without worrying that playing the Woodies
is going to drag down their rating.

Fails to punish drops.

That's what the first factor does -- computes % of
games completed.

Isn't this clear?

Relies on voting system that

few will bother with.

Doesn't "rely" on it. If people do vote for MVP, it's
added.

[I wrote:] Thus, you can get a great rating even

playing Rhun.

Sure, if you go FP, stay home, do nothing but place

and improve pops, horde gold, train characters, and do
a host of other things that will keep you off the DS
radar.

Remember, only the last factor calculates VP score --
everything else rewards team play. And about the VP
scores, I recommended Fred's system:

1 point for every military battle your army wins
against an enemy army.
1 point for every enemy pop center your army captures.
1 point for every enemy character you assassinate.
1 point for every enemy pop center your emissaries
influence away.
1 point for every artifact your mages pick up

This system is "okay" compared to the current

"horrid"
system, but it still fails to reward all aspects of
great team play.

It's true that it doesn't reward ALL aspects of team
play. No system is perfect. No game is perfect. No
suggestion is perfect.

But we've had some good thoughts on the list, and by
combining them, we can offer a simple, elegant way to
include ratings, which everyone can feel free to value
or ignore as best fits their gaming pleasure.

Cheers,

Dan N

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On which Darrell wrote:

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It is too late to recommend new systems.

It is too late to stop the crappy system as proposed.
Clint has made it clear he intends to impliment the
system.

It is now time to start playing for max VPs, or get
used to playing with those that are.

Talk is done. It is time for ramifications. It is
time to take neutrals and then sit the fence for 20
turns until the war is over, then jump on the winning
side. It is time for tentative play in the mid-game,
and backstabbing your allies in the end game. It is
time to "add the extra layer of fun".

Darrell Shimel

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--- D N <nanooknw@yahoo.com> wrote:

Darrell, I'll see if I can clarify my previous note
(I
was recommending Brad Brunet's simple PRS proposal
from Bree 13):

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And Clint wonders why I'm staying away for the time being...

Gavin

Darrell Shimel wrote:

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--- D N <nanooknw@yahoo.com> wrote:

Darrell, I'll see if I can clarify my previous note
(I
was recommending Brad Brunet's simple PRS proposal
from Bree 13):

It is too late to recommend new systems.

It is too late to stop the crappy system as proposed.
Clint has made it clear he intends to impliment the
system.

It is now time to start playing for max VPs, or get
used to playing with those that are.

Talk is done. It is time for ramifications. It is
time to take neutrals and then sit the fence for 20
turns until the war is over, then jump on the winning
side. It is time for tentative play in the mid-game,
and backstabbing your allies in the end game. It is
time to "add the extra layer of fun".

Darrell Shimel

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From: "Gavinwj" <gavinwj@compuserve.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] PRS clear

And Clint wonders why I'm staying away for the time being...

Brad Brunet wrote:

And Clint wonders why I'm staying away for the time being...

Staying away from what? This list?

I have replied to you off list: Clint censored my first post.

Gavin