Query on dropouts

Instead of just giving the positions in question gold, why not make the
program implement compulsory sells of all available goods during the turns
where the position is inactive? if the position ahs nothing to sell and no
gold in reserve it truly would be unsavable...

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At 09:51 31/07/00 +1000, you wrote:

  Hi everyone

  Want to quickly test an idea on Drop outs. Generally due to
missed turns,
  or inactive turns whilst dropped out I would like to improve
the overall
  situation of the turns we can send out. Often (about 1/3 or
1/4 turns) the
  position is not playable. With 5 or 10k gold that should
help most of
  these positions. What do players think?

  I don't think the idea of the GM throwing in money from
outside the game to make an inactive nation look better. Don't forget there
is another side that helped bankrupt the nation that just dropped. They
might say 'why bother' if GM's step in to work against them.

  I suggest that the side with the inactive nation be the only
one who can throw in any money.

  Just keeping the list of who got turns in (processed, SS,
etc) I think is good enough

  Thanks
  m

  p.s so I'm voting for less work for Clint.

  I don't want to spend a lot of time and effort changing each
position we
  send out like this and I think this will help but would like

some feedback
  before asking the rest of the players.

  Thanks for your help.

  Clint

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I like this! But it requires GSI (I think) to buy in, not just Harly (or DGE).
Program change, not "set-up" change. Hope I'm wrong. :slight_smile:

b

David Murray wrote:

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Instead of just giving the positions in question gold, why not make the
program implement compulsory sells of all available goods during the turns
where the position is inactive? if the position ahs nothing to sell and no
gold in reserve it truly would be unsavable...

At 09:51 31/07/00 +1000, you wrote:
>
>
> Hi everyone
>
> Want to quickly test an idea on Drop outs. Generally due to
>missed turns,
> or inactive turns whilst dropped out I would like to improve
>the overall
> situation of the turns we can send out. Often (about 1/3 or
>1/4 turns) the
> position is not playable. With 5 or 10k gold that should
>help most of
> these positions. What do players think?
>
> I don't think the idea of the GM throwing in money from
>outside the game to make an inactive nation look better. Don't forget there
>is another side that helped bankrupt the nation that just dropped. They
>might say 'why bother' if GM's step in to work against them.
>
> I suggest that the side with the inactive nation be the only
>one who can throw in any money.
>
> Just keeping the list of who got turns in (processed, SS,
>etc) I think is good enough
>
> Thanks
> m
>
> p.s so I'm voting for less work for Clint.
>
>
> I don't want to spend a lot of time and effort changing each
>position we
> send out like this and I think this will help but would like
>
>
>some feedback
> before asking the rest of the players.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Clint
>
>
>
>
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David Murray wrote:

Instead of just giving the positions in question gold, why not make the
program implement compulsory sells of all available goods during the turns
where the position is inactive? if the position ahs nothing to sell and no
gold in reserve it truly would be unsavable...

.. nice idea! However its my understanding that Harlequin have no
control over this sort of programming change. By all means suggest this
to GSI, but I wouldn't expect a reply, let alone action.

Colin.

Been here before - :slight_smile: We had some nice ideas about how to implement SS
turns but unfortunately it is not our option to change the program.

Clint

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Murray" <dmurray@lib.south-ayrshire.gov.uk>
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Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: [mepbmlist] Query on dropouts

Instead of just giving the positions in question gold, why not make the
program implement compulsory sells of all available goods during the turns
where the position is inactive? if the position ahs nothing to sell and no
gold in reserve it truly would be unsavable...

At 09:51 31/07/00 +1000, you wrote:
>
>
> Hi everyone
>
> Want to quickly test an idea on Drop outs. Generally due to
>missed turns,
> or inactive turns whilst dropped out I would like to improve
>the overall
> situation of the turns we can send out. Often (about 1/3 or
>1/4 turns) the
> position is not playable. With 5 or 10k gold that should
>help most of
> these positions. What do players think?
>
> I don't think the idea of the GM throwing in money from
>outside the game to make an inactive nation look better. Don't forget

there

>is another side that helped bankrupt the nation that just dropped. They
>might say 'why bother' if GM's step in to work against them.
>
> I suggest that the side with the inactive nation be the only
>one who can throw in any money.
>
> Just keeping the list of who got turns in (processed, SS,
>etc) I think is good enough
>
> Thanks
> m
>
> p.s so I'm voting for less work for Clint.
>
>
> I don't want to spend a lot of time and effort changing each
>position we
> send out like this and I think this will help but would like
>
>
>some feedback
> before asking the rest of the players.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Clint
>
>
>
>
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Nope correct.... :frowning:

Clint

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From: "Benjamin M. Shushan" <bshushan@earthlink.net>
To: <mepbmlist@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Query on dropouts

I like this! But it requires GSI (I think) to buy in, not just Harly (or

DGE).

Program change, not "set-up" change. Hope I'm wrong. :slight_smile:

b

David Murray wrote:

> Instead of just giving the positions in question gold, why not make the
> program implement compulsory sells of all available goods during the

turns

> where the position is inactive? if the position ahs nothing to sell and

no

> gold in reserve it truly would be unsavable...
>
> At 09:51 31/07/00 +1000, you wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > Want to quickly test an idea on Drop outs. Generally

due to

> >missed turns,
> > or inactive turns whilst dropped out I would like to

improve

> >the overall
> > situation of the turns we can send out. Often (about

1/3 or

> >1/4 turns) the
> > position is not playable. With 5 or 10k gold that

should

> >help most of
> > these positions. What do players think?
> >
> > I don't think the idea of the GM throwing in money from
> >outside the game to make an inactive nation look better. Don't forget

there

> >is another side that helped bankrupt the nation that just dropped. They
> >might say 'why bother' if GM's step in to work against them.
> >
> > I suggest that the side with the inactive nation be the

only

> >one who can throw in any money.
> >
> > Just keeping the list of who got turns in (processed,

SS,

> >etc) I think is good enough
> >
> > Thanks
> > m
> >
> > p.s so I'm voting for less work for Clint.
> >
> >
> > I don't want to spend a lot of time and effort changing

each

> >position we
> > send out like this and I think this will help but would

like

> >
> >
> >some feedback
> > before asking the rest of the players.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Clint
> >
> >
> >
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Yes - I have heard that there has been some implementation of ideas and
changes so it might work.

Clint

David Murray wrote:

> Instead of just giving the positions in question gold, why not make the
> program implement compulsory sells of all available goods during the

turns

> where the position is inactive? if the position ahs nothing to sell and

no

···

> gold in reserve it truly would be unsavable...

.. nice idea! However its my understanding that Harlequin have no
control over this sort of programming change. By all means suggest this
to GSI, but I wouldn't expect a reply, let alone action.

Colin.

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No. Sorry David, but even this is a disruption of game balance, and
unfair to the opposition.

As the opposition, you might have gone to a lot of effort to damage the
nation economically. You may have your best assassins sitting in the
capital of the dropped player (when they could have been elsewhere).

Only normal NatSells - i.e. by characters in the capital should be
allowed. And you can't really program for saving actions - it might be
that the character in the capital needs to move out an army in a
blocking manoeuvre as the action required to save the nation, rather
than perform a NatSell. It needs a HUMAN stand-by player, to make the
appropriate decisions. In most of my (team) games, there is usually
someone prepared to play the dropped position until a proper stand-by
can be found. BUT if nobody steps forward to submit the orders, then
that nation should be considered abandoned by its leaders, and should
suffer the consequences (for which the opposition have been working).

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David Murray <dmurray@lib.south-ayrshire.gov.uk> wrote

Instead of just giving the positions in question gold, why not make the
program implement compulsory sells of all available goods during the turns
where the position is inactive? if the position ahs nothing to sell and no
gold in reserve it truly would be unsavable...