Question about Gunboat games

[Blue_Knight]

Everything in this thread so far has revolved around the enemy knowing which nations are out of the game. What about the benefits/detriments of knowing which nations on your own team are out? While a nation is likely to perform some sort of intelligence gathering regarding a nation they are fighting, it’s not nearly as likely for an ally (I use ther term “ally” loosely in this context) to do the same.

In other words, in addition to looking at what the enemy alliance learns from the posting of dropped/dead nations of their enemy, don’t forget what is also learned by the friendly alliance. For example ,in the past I have chosen to call for a vote to concede after I found out that only two people (four nations) remained on my side. I suppose that the purists among us would say that I should continue to force a bug hunt, even though I didn’t know I was becoming the bug. I could have used resources to determine the status of my eliminated allies, but quite frankly I had my hands full with the enemy.

That being said, I generally think it’s a bad idea to post dropped/dead nations so soon after they are out of the game, but I do think it serves a purpose. Perhaps an alternative to publicly posting which nations are eliminated would be to send emails to alliance members when a nation is eliminated. Such as, “Dear Gamer, one of the nations in your alliance has been eliminated. Your alliance now consists of (n-1) nations.” That way friendly players get something to help them make monetary decisions regarding game continuation. As for the enemy alliance, I think they should have to find out for themselves.

Darrell, Look at the first posting, last line. I did mention that maybe the side with the dead nation should be told and then like 5 turns later let it posted that the nation is dead !! I also mention that the nation that is out – his so called allies should be notified right away to maybe get a jump on getting his pops.

My main concern was that if an enemy nation is reported out, as happened to me – I changed my whole turn toward gearing up to hit another nation when I might not have gotten around to hitting that nation for at least three turns or maybe even till I figured on my own that this one nation was dead !!

Best way would probably to do an update on each game every five turn like when we send out the diplo’s !!

[Blue_Knight]

At present I don’t have any plans to alter the code in this manner. So far I’ve got some players asking for the duos to be posted and some not. So there’s no clear indication either way at present, so I’ll leave it the way the rules are at present.

Thanks for your time guys, as always your feedback is appreciated.

Clint

Clint , Sorry wasn’t asking for a change, was just trying to make the playing ground somewhat fair. I have stated as I feel as if I was cheating changing my whole set of orders when I found out one nation was dead to take on another one !! Also wasn’t asking for a change in any code, basically just an update issued say every 5 turns like when we do diplos.

Mike

[Blue_Knight]

This.

IIRC, the turn email has this info already… just leave out the enemy pairings

If you aren’t going to tell people that their side is falling apart, then a hard and fast victory condition (e.g. better than 2:1 in nations) is necessary IMO.

I wasn’t suggesting not telling people there side was falling apart, just a delay like in diplos is all !!

[clint]

Remebering to update the GB list of dead nations some time later might be too awkward and I suspect prone to mess-ups our end. I prefer not to go that way. I don’t mind if you guys want us not to post (saves us work!) or not, your call. Just at present I can’t see a clear desire to change things.

Clint