Hello all. I have a simple question.
This turn I had an adversary attack a popcen. He failed, and the army and army commander died. Yeah! My turnsheet indicates there were several characters inside the army. Did they perish as well, or are they still hanging around.
Also the army commander had a combat artifact with him. Did the combat artifact go to any surviviors, or did it fall to the ground?
Thanks in advance.
Hi Pearly
No and Yes.
Characters traveling with an army does not go “splat” on the walls with the army commander. They will still be in the hex (unless they issued a movement order the same turn as the army attacked)
The army commander’s artifacts will fall to the ground.
Take a look on the health-points.
You can find them on your results-sheet.
A zero will indicate they’re dead too !
If you don’t have the sub-com on your turn-sheet as known before maybe he’s a hostage of the army-com you fighted against and that would mean the artefacts are in possession of your enemy !
Bye, Gerhard
Gixxer, I believe he’s saying the enemy’s army just died assaulting his pc, so he can’t see the stats for their characters on his turn sheet.
Pearly, amend Jeppe’s comment to mean the sub-commanders and other characters do not necessarily die.
There are two kinds of failed pop center assaults. If the army has less Str than the Def of the pc, but has sufficient Con, the attack fails. The army loses troops (and if it falls below 100 is disbanded), but the commander isn’t killed.
In the second case, which you’re describing, the army’s Con is less than the Def of the pc, and it loses every last soldier. The commander dies. Jeppe’s right that accompanying characters may not be killed – but they can be. It’s up to the dice.
That is correct. I own the popcen, and had no army in the hex. My enemy’s army died on the walls.
Thank you everyone for the advise.
Pearly
Gents,
Is there a difference in army commander survivability rate when issuing destpop vs captpop; assuming that the army fails to meet the objective?
Pearly
Hi nanook,
Attached characters killed as well ? I didn’t know that 
Pearly, I do not think there is a difference, as nanook explains, the army com dies if his army does not have sufficient constitution to take from the pops damage, regardless of whether he issues capture or destroy …
Jeppe, that’s right – on an assault with Con less than the pc Def, the army commander always dies. Other chrs in the army may or may not die; there’s a some sort of roll to determine their fate, and while I don’t know what it is, chrs seem to die at a rate greater than for normal combat, where deaths aren’t the most likely outcome.
You do not always die when attacking when you blow up your armyon the walls (con less than pc def). In my current game the commander of an army that went splat against the walls lived (and uninjured too I think)
Gringo, are you sure that the army Con was less than the pc Def, or could your army have “survived” with fewer than 100 men and then disbanded?
The latter won’t kill your commander but the former will. Do you have the numbers available?