From: Middle Earth PBM Games <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
Reply-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mepbmlist] Ratings
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 17:46:09 +0100>Why!?!?!?!?!?!?!
*** My reasoning is that I feel that there is a favourable response to the
Rating system, or that the damage done, despite certain player's
reservations, is going to be minimal, and the potential gain outways that.
So, were back to it being a done deal. What a load of crap. We want responses, and long as they are positive, and even if they aren't, we'll just pretend they are. Whatever. And the rate hike at the same time Autotragic was released wasn't punishment to those that chose not to use it. Whatever.
I want and need none of that!
*** I understand that certain players do not want it. They can opt out.
How do we opt out of being in ANY games with anyone that hasn't opted out of the list? Only by ensuring that no one in the game cares about ranking, do we have a reasonable hope of being in a game with no one that is out to exploit the system.
I
think that the impact on opting in players' play will be minimal. I am
aware that this is at odds with some players' opinions here and have taken
that into account.
You took it in to account how? By delaying the imposition of the system by a few months in hopes the angry response would die down? As far as I can see, you've always planned on imposing an unwanted system on the players, and the only account of the opposition you've taken is delaying the torture.
what is very much open is the form that these ratings will take.
*** Yes - I think I have enough feedback for this now. I need to free up
some spare time and energy to work this into an appropriate system
though. The information on end of game has now nearly been collated
(should be finished this week) so I need to work on the next step of
getting a system finalised.
No system!!!!!
I'm trying to opt-out of
>this list being created. My name not being on the list will not change the
>behavior of the players who want to scam the system. It is this negative
>motivation that I'm trying to avoid.*** I think that this will be minimal. If it does have a drastic impact
then we can evaluate it at that point.
Evaluate it? Is that looking at the bottom line to see if the cunning players are spending more money, then trying to figure out how to modify the system to make them spend even more?
Come clean. Why do you want to impose this system?
>The only solution that deos not alter behavior away from "fun play" is to
>have no system.*** I think that that in effect would be detrimental to the long term
success of the game for the reasons given earlier. The game can do with
being modernised and I think this will certainly help here and if not we
can always scrap it or come up with a different solution.Clint
Again, no ranking system is dismissed out of hand. Note you didn't say the system would be dropped totally. It could be changed or a different solution imposed on unwanting players. Tell me again how this wasn't a done deal from the beginning?
Open dialog and taking opinions into account? Male cow dung!
Darrell Shimel
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