Ratings

mepbmlist
#1

Many players have been telling you, over and over again,
that VC's are gone. Similarly, the list has heard many
reasons FOR the ratings and have heard many different
interpretations of what effects the ratings will have on
the game overall... You have missed much, it seems.

And please understand the difference between VC's and VP's.
P is for Points and C is for Conditions. Very different
beast - one is still included in the Istari rating.

Brad

I humbly admit I was saying VC when I meant VP. Please forgive. Yes I did notice that Victory Points would not be modified by Victory COnditions. I'm sorry, when I saw that they had eliminated VCs, I thught VPs and jumped for joy far too soon.

I do have to flattly disagree with one point you make.

"Similarly, the list has heard many reasons FOR the ratings"

I've heard 2. 2 is a long way from many. The 2 I hear are "more fun" and "easier to balance games". As for more fun, I keep asking HOW will this be more fun, and as you have done, keep being told that I've already been answered. Thank you for again answering "you've already been told" which just proves that it is the only answer I get. You strengthen my point. Thanks!

NOW, if someone would like to prove that I have been told, instead of proving that I'm only being told that I've already been told, PLEASE tell me HOW this will make the game more fun? How will people changing thier style of play to maximize their points scored in some ranking system that has no hope of determining who is the better player, make the game more fun than just playing for fun? I turely, truely, truely believe I've not been told, and turely, truely, truely do want an answer other than "It will be more fun" or "you've already been told HOW it will be more fun".

I'm not going to shut up and go away.

Darrell Shimel

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#2

NOW, if someone would like to prove that I have been told, instead

of

proving that I'm only being told that I've already been told,

I tell you that you have been tellingly told, and that when the toll
is tallied and all tales are told time will tell that that the
telling told against you.

Told ya!

Mark

#3

I thught VPs and jumped for joy far too soon.

So since eliminating them is a "good thing", but they
haven't, then what you're saying, by extention, is what's
been said all along, that nothing is really Changing as
such - the game is simply being Added To (another reason
to have them - keep up with other "rated" games...),
and thusly all the arguments surrounded players changing
their behaviour dissolve into thin air.

I've heard 2. 2 is a long way from many. The 2 I hear are "more
fun" and
"easier to balance games". As for more fun, I keep asking HOW will
this be
more fun,

What a silly question, that's why you've been ignored! How
does this taste good, you could ask. It's called subjective
or personal opinion and the vast vast vast majority have
been in touch with the company to agree that it will be more
fun. Each person has his own explanation for "fun", so there
are as many reasons as there are players in the game, no?

Which, as has been stated many times, your 1 reason it isn't
fun (even if it's yelled and screamed 154 times) is still
only 1 reason, and frankly, there are dozens of other "reasons"
why it IS fun countering yours.

Now ask yourself THIS question: Why do you play this game?
If you have more than 1 answer (because it's "fun") then I
am truly eager to learn what another could be. Considering
you have just said that you are aware of 2 reasons to have
ratings, while there's only 1 reason to play the game, it's
quite logical that the overall best thing to do would be
to have ratings WITHOUT playing the game. Would you be
happy then?

PLEASE tell me HOW this will make the game more fun?

Again, each to their own. Salt might make your chips taste
better, but I eat neither salt nor chips, so your HOW this
makes the chips taste better certainly doesn't apply to me,
does it? Understand this please.

How will people changing thier style of play to maximize
their points scored in some ranking system that has no
hope of determining who is the better player, make the game more fun
than just playing for fun?

As you yourself have proven, there are no changes (simply
additions) so there couldn't be any changed behaviour. All
this behaviour your complaining about already exists, and all
your exclamations ("no hope of.." etc) are simply the opinion
of one person amongst many. Opinions aren't proven into fact
simply by being written over and over again. The Earth is Flat
The Earth is Flat THE EARTH IS FLAT THE EARTH IS FLAT.

I'm not going to shut up and go away.

We know. You make some good points about different things.
Unfortunately, this one has run it's course and you aren't
making points. You're trying to objectify the subjective,
you're not willing to read or understand the equally valuable
opinions of others, and you repeat yourself over and over
again, often in contradiction of your own statements.

But feel free to open up and stay.

Brad

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