Hello all,
I have a riddle that goes like this:
Silmaril maker cutter.
Answer is not Feanor.
Any guesses? I was totally flaberghasted when that was not the answer.
Deni
Hello all,
I have a riddle that goes like this:
Silmaril maker cutter.
Answer is not Feanor.
Any guesses? I was totally flaberghasted when that was not the answer.
Deni
-Might it be Ancaruin, Feanor's sword (or cutter)?
-Feanor was slain by balrogs (gothmog, specifically)
So I would probably guess one of the two
Just a couple of ideas.
Robert
Hello all,
I have a riddle that goes like this:
Silmaril maker cutter.
Perhaps it's Gothmog who is the cutter of Feanor, the maker of the Silmaril
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Answer is not Feanor.
Any guesses? I was totally flaberghasted when that was not the answer.
Deni
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--- In mepbmlist@y..., dgarrett <gtgsmom@s...> wrote:
Hello all,
I have a riddle that goes like this:
Silmaril maker cutter.
Answer is not Feanor.
Any guesses? I was totally flaberghasted when that was not the
answer.
Deni
Deni, I believe the answer to Silmaril Cutter Maker Will be Telchar.
He was the Dwarf who forged the blade that cut the silmaril from the
crown. I will be trying it this turn as I have the same riddle. I
will let you know how it turns out.
Jim D.
> I have a riddle that goes like this:
>
> Silmaril maker cutter.
>
> Answer is not Feanor.
>
> Any guesses? I was totally flaberghasted when
that was not the answer.
why ? the silarmil maker was feanor. And you could say
that feanor was the one who cut the silmaril into
shape. But IMO by repeating 'maker' and 'cutter' imply
that both words do not mean the same thing. If only
one word was used, then I would go with feanor, but
not when both are used.
This was discussed earlier. One view was that it was
the person who killed (or cut) feanor (which I think
we said was gothmog), but we didn't think so (and I'm
not sure what words were already tried).
Deni, I believe the answer to Silmaril Cutter Maker
Will be Telchar.
He was the Dwarf who forged the blade that cut the
silmaril from the
crown. I will be trying it this turn as I have the
same riddle. I
will let you know how it turns out.
I reckon this is a much better answer. Silmaril maker
is feanor. So the question then becomes what does
'cutter' mean, and how does it fit in with feanor.
And is the riddle 'silmaril cutter maker' - which
would be the person who made the item that cut the
silmaril.
Or 'silmaril maker cutter ? As this could be read as
'what is the name of the sword that feanor used ?'
just confusing people even more
din
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Did Gothmog use a Sword to cut down the Silmaril Maker? Perhaps the
name of this weapon is the cutter of the the Silmaril Maker?
Ray
--- In mepbmlist@y..., rednbucko@y... wrote:
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--- In mepbmlist@y..., dgarrett <gtgsmom@s...> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have a riddle that goes like this:
>
> Silmaril maker cutter.
>
> Answer is not Feanor.
>
> Any guesses? I was totally flaberghasted when that was not the
answer.
>
> DeniDeni, I believe the answer to Silmaril Cutter Maker Will be Telchar.
He was the Dwarf who forged the blade that cut the silmaril from the
crown. I will be trying it this turn as I have the same riddle. I
will let you know how it turns out.
Jim D.
Or is it the name of Feanor's sword (i.e. his cutter?)
JB
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--- Ray Devlin <hurly_burly_69@yahoo.com> wrote:
Did Gothmog use a Sword to cut down the Silmaril
Maker? Perhaps the
name of this weapon is the cutter of the the
Silmaril Maker?Ray
--- In mepbmlist@y..., rednbucko@y... wrote:
> --- In mepbmlist@y..., dgarrett <gtgsmom@s...>
wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have a riddle that goes like this:
> >
> > Silmaril maker cutter.
> >
> > Answer is not Feanor.
> >
> > Any guesses? I was totally flaberghasted when
that was not the
> answer.
> >
> > Deni
>
> Deni, I believe the answer to Silmaril Cutter
Maker Will be Telchar.
> He was the Dwarf who forged the blade that cut the
silmaril from the
> crown. I will be trying it this turn as I have
the same riddle. I
> will let you know how it turns out.
> Jim D.
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-Ok, Feanor's sword was called Ancaruin. Gothmog's sword was called
Bragolamarth, his whip was called Pedonor. Have no idea what he 'cut down'
feanor with.
I would probably try Ancaruin first.
Robert
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Did Gothmog use a Sword to cut down the Silmaril Maker? Perhaps the
name of this weapon is the cutter of the the Silmaril Maker?Ray
--- In mepbmlist@y..., rednbucko@y... wrote:
> --- In mepbmlist@y..., dgarrett <gtgsmom@s...> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have a riddle that goes like this:
> >
> > Silmaril maker cutter.
> >
> > Answer is not Feanor.
> >
> > Any guesses? I was totally flaberghasted when that was not the
> answer.
> >
> > Deni
>
> Deni, I believe the answer to Silmaril Cutter Maker Will be Telchar.
> He was the Dwarf who forged the blade that cut the silmaril from the
> crown. I will be trying it this turn as I have the same riddle. I
> will let you know how it turns out.
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--- In mepbmlist@y..., Din <din_ohtar@y...> wrote:
> > I have a riddle that goes like this:
> >
> > Silmaril maker cutter.
> >
> > Answer is not Feanor.
> >
> > Any guesses? I was totally flaberghasted when
> that was not the answer.why ? the silarmil maker was feanor. And you could say
that feanor was the one who cut the silmaril into
shape. But IMO by repeating 'maker' and 'cutter' imply
that both words do not mean the same thing. If only
one word was used, then I would go with feanor, but
not when both are used.This was discussed earlier. One view was that it was
the person who killed (or cut) feanor (which I think
we said was gothmog), but we didn't think so (and I'm
not sure what words were already tried).> Deni, I believe the answer to Silmaril Cutter Maker
> Will be Telchar.
> He was the Dwarf who forged the blade that cut the
> silmaril from the
> crown. I will be trying it this turn as I have the
> same riddle. I
> will let you know how it turns out.I reckon this is a much better answer. Silmaril maker
is feanor. So the question then becomes what does
'cutter' mean, and how does it fit in with feanor.And is the riddle 'silmaril cutter maker' - which
would be the person who made the item that cut the
silmaril.Or 'silmaril maker cutter ? As this could be read as
'what is the name of the sword that feanor used ?'just confusing people even more
din> Jim D.
>
>
The riddle is Silmaril Cutter maker. I believe that The Silmarillion
states that Feanor created the Silmarils from the Trees of Light, but
it never said that he "cut" them. I think everyone assumes that they
were cut, as I originally did before rechecking the Silmarillion, as
gems have been for many years, but I don't think it ever syas that
they were cut in their creation anywhere. I think it says he "formed
them". However one of them was cut from a crown and the blade that
cut it from the crown was forged by the Dwarf Telchar. I just hope
they don't want the dwarven name for him! 
I should find out
tomorrow and will post the result.
Jim
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I consider this riddle 'mostly' solved 
and I am willing to bet it
is.....Ancaruin. Still, great research Robert!
Ray
--- In mepbmlist@y..., "Robert Weeks" <weeksrj@a...> wrote:
-Ok, Feanor's sword was called Ancaruin. Gothmog's sword was called
Bragolamarth, his whip was called Pedonor. Have no idea what he
'cut down'
feanor with.
I would probably try Ancaruin first.
Robert
> Did Gothmog use a Sword to cut down the Silmaril Maker? Perhaps
the
> name of this weapon is the cutter of the the Silmaril Maker?
>
> Ray
>
>
> --- In mepbmlist@y..., rednbucko@y... wrote:
> > --- In mepbmlist@y..., dgarrett <gtgsmom@s...> wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I have a riddle that goes like this:
> > >
> > > Silmaril maker cutter.
> > >
> > > Answer is not Feanor.
> > >
> > > Any guesses? I was totally flaberghasted when that was not
the
> > answer.
> > >
> > > Deni
> >
> > Deni, I believe the answer to Silmaril Cutter Maker Will be
Telchar.
> > He was the Dwarf who forged the blade that cut the silmaril from
the
> > crown. I will be trying it this turn as I have the same riddle.
I
> > will let you know how it turns out.
> > Jim D.
>
>
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