This was discussed earlier. One view was that it was
the person who killed (or cut) feanor (which I think
we said was gothmog), but we didn't think so.
I like Gothmog.
> Deni, I believe the answer to Silmaril Cutter
> Maker Will be Telchar.
> He was the Dwarf who forged the blade that cut the
> silmaril from the
> crown.
I don't like this one because maker comes before
cutter and Telchar made the cutter instead of cutting
the maker.
Silmaril maker is Feanor. So the question then
becomes what does 'cutter' mean, and how does it fit
in with feanor. 'Silmaril maker cutter ? As this
could be read as 'what is the name of the sword that
Feanor used ?'
That would be my guess. Don't have my books here at
work, so I can't look it up right now.
Calvin
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> This was discussed earlier. One view was that it was
> the person who killed (or cut) feanor (which I think
> we said was gothmog), but we didn't think so.
I like Gothmog.
RD: It certainly wasn't Gothmog. It was Melkor who slew Feanor.
Richard.
···
----- Original Message -----
From: "Calvin Kelley" <jc_kelley@yahoo.com>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:52 AM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Riddle Encounter
> > Deni, I believe the answer to Silmaril Cutter
> > Maker Will be Telchar.
> > He was the Dwarf who forged the blade that cut the
> > silmaril from the
> > crown.
I don't like this one because maker comes before
cutter and Telchar made the cutter instead of cutting
the maker.
> Silmaril maker is Feanor. So the question then
> becomes what does 'cutter' mean, and how does it fit
> in with feanor. 'Silmaril maker cutter ? As this
> could be read as 'what is the name of the sword that
> Feanor used ?'
That would be my guess. Don't have my books here at
work, so I can't look it up right now.
Calvin
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>
> > This was discussed earlier. One view was that it
was
> > the person who killed (or cut) feanor (which I
think
> > we said was gothmog), but we didn't think so.
>
> I like Gothmog.
>
RD: It certainly wasn't Gothmog. It was Melkor who
slew Feanor.
Oh no it wasn't.
Feanor landed in middle earth, melkor launched the
second battle (forget what is was called - maybe
'glorious victory'). While the orcs were smashed,
feanor went forward with a small bodyguard to get to
melkor.
The balrogs then counterattacked, killed the
bodyguard, inflicted mortal wounds on feanor, and only
his sons coming up allowed him to die amongst friends
(and not get turned into paste like other elves who
got killed by the balrogs).
Melkor didn't like coming out to fight (I think he
only did it once).
thanks
din
p.s when I was roleplaying m/e, the GM had Feanor go
battle crazy when the elven attack stopped, he
attacked his sons for being cowards, they defended
themselves, and feanor thus got killed by his sons
(and not the balrogs). When we uncovered this, we
decided to stick with the original story in order to
keep feanor's reputation alive. That's why I remember
how feanor died in the books
···
Richard.
> > > Deni, I believe the answer to Silmaril Cutter
> > > Maker Will be Telchar.
> > > He was the Dwarf who forged the blade that cut
the
> > > silmaril from the
> > > crown.
>
> I don't like this one because maker comes before
> cutter and Telchar made the cutter instead of
cutting
> the maker.
>
> > Silmaril maker is Feanor. So the question then
> > becomes what does 'cutter' mean, and how does it
fit
> > in with feanor. 'Silmaril maker cutter ? As this
> > could be read as 'what is the name of the sword
that
> > Feanor used ?'
>
> That would be my guess. Don't have my books here
at
> work, so I can't look it up right now.
>
> Calvin
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> >
> > > This was discussed earlier. One view was that it
> was
> > > the person who killed (or cut) feanor (which I
> think
> > > we said was gothmog), but we didn't think so.
> >
> > I like Gothmog.
> >
> RD: It certainly wasn't Gothmog. It was Melkor who
> slew Feanor.
Oh no it wasn't.
Feanor landed in middle earth, melkor launched the
second battle (forget what is was called - maybe
'glorious victory'). While the orcs were smashed,
feanor went forward with a small bodyguard to get to
melkor.
The balrogs then counterattacked, killed the
bodyguard, inflicted mortal wounds on feanor, and only
his sons coming up allowed him to die amongst friends
(and not get turned into paste like other elves who
got killed by the balrogs).
Melkor didn't like coming out to fight (I think he
only did it once).
thanks
din
RD: my apologies - you are right. It was Finwe, Feanor's father, who was
slain by Melkor defending the Silmarils, not Feanor himself. Got the effing
elves mixed up!
Richard.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Din" <din_ohtar@yahoo.com.au>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Riddle Encounter
p.s when I was roleplaying m/e, the GM had Feanor go
battle crazy when the elven attack stopped, he
attacked his sons for being cowards, they defended
themselves, and feanor thus got killed by his sons
(and not the balrogs). When we uncovered this, we
decided to stick with the original story in order to
keep feanor's reputation alive. That's why I remember
how feanor died in the books
>
> Richard.
>
> > > > Deni, I believe the answer to Silmaril Cutter
> > > > Maker Will be Telchar.
> > > > He was the Dwarf who forged the blade that cut
> the
> > > > silmaril from the
> > > > crown.
> >
> > I don't like this one because maker comes before
> > cutter and Telchar made the cutter instead of
> cutting
> > the maker.
> >
> > > Silmaril maker is Feanor. So the question then
> > > becomes what does 'cutter' mean, and how does it
> fit
> > > in with feanor. 'Silmaril maker cutter ? As this
> > > could be read as 'what is the name of the sword
> that
> > > Feanor used ?'
> >
> > That would be my guess. Don't have my books here
> at
> > work, so I can't look it up right now.
> >
> > Calvin
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Guys, Just got my turn back and the correct answer was Telchar, as I
expected. Hope this helps those of you who have gotten the riddle
before.
Jim
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From: "Din" <din_ohtar@y...>
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Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Riddle Encounter
> > >
> > > > This was discussed earlier. One view was that it
> > was
> > > > the person who killed (or cut) feanor (which I
> > think
> > > > we said was gothmog), but we didn't think so.
> > >
> > > I like Gothmog.
> > >
> > RD: It certainly wasn't Gothmog. It was Melkor who
> > slew Feanor.
>
> Oh no it wasn't.
>
> Feanor landed in middle earth, melkor launched the
> second battle (forget what is was called - maybe
> 'glorious victory'). While the orcs were smashed,
> feanor went forward with a small bodyguard to get to
> melkor.
>
> The balrogs then counterattacked, killed the
> bodyguard, inflicted mortal wounds on feanor, and only
> his sons coming up allowed him to die amongst friends
> (and not get turned into paste like other elves who
> got killed by the balrogs).
>
> Melkor didn't like coming out to fight (I think he
> only did it once).
>
> thanks
> din
RD: my apologies - you are right. It was Finwe, Feanor's father,
who was
slain by Melkor defending the Silmarils, not Feanor himself. Got
the effing
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----- Original Message -----
elves mixed up!
Richard.
>
> p.s when I was roleplaying m/e, the GM had Feanor go
> battle crazy when the elven attack stopped, he
> attacked his sons for being cowards, they defended
> themselves, and feanor thus got killed by his sons
> (and not the balrogs). When we uncovered this, we
> decided to stick with the original story in order to
> keep feanor's reputation alive. That's why I remember
> how feanor died in the books
>
>
>
> >
> > Richard.
> >
> > > > > Deni, I believe the answer to Silmaril Cutter
> > > > > Maker Will be Telchar.
> > > > > He was the Dwarf who forged the blade that cut
> > the
> > > > > silmaril from the
> > > > > crown.
> > >
> > > I don't like this one because maker comes before
> > > cutter and Telchar made the cutter instead of
> > cutting
> > > the maker.
> > >
> > > > Silmaril maker is Feanor. So the question then
> > > > becomes what does 'cutter' mean, and how does it
> > fit
> > > > in with feanor. 'Silmaril maker cutter ? As this
> > > > could be read as 'what is the name of the sword
> > that
> > > > Feanor used ?'
> > >
> > > That would be my guess. Don't have my books here
> > at
> > > work, so I can't look it up right now.
> > >
> > > Calvin
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