Can anyone help me with the following riddle. I tried 'Avari' as the
answer and would try 'Teleri' next turn. I just don't know if I'm on
the right track and would appreciate help with this one:
The west of the middle,
where dwelt the grey
who so in love did heed the ancient call little
til swallowed by that held at bay.
Thanks for the help,
George P. Mason
gmason@uwindsor.ca
I think you need to look for a geographic term, not an ethnic one --
"_where_ dwelt the grey"
Tony Z
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 02:17:04AM -0000, georgepmason wrote:
Can anyone help me with the following riddle. I tried 'Avari' as the
answer and would try 'Teleri' next turn. I just don't know if I'm on
the right track and would appreciate help with this one:The west of the middle,
where dwelt the grey
who so in love did heed the ancient call little
til swallowed by that held at bay.
--
"The King with half the East at heel is marched from lands of morning;
His fighters drink the rivers up, their shafts benight the air,
And he that stays will die for naught, and home there's no returning."
The Spartans on the sea-wet rock sat down and combed their hair.--A.E. Housman
This is Beleriand (I think). It was the west-most part
of Middle Earth (line one) and it was the home of the
SIndar or "grey" elves (line 2). The Sindar were a
spit faction of the teleri. They originally traveled
west to Valinor, but stopped (and thus never saw
trees, therfore grey elves) when their leader, Elwe
(aka Elu Thingol) fell in love with Melain and decided
to settle down (lne 3). It sank beneath the sea with
the fall of Thangorodrim at the end of the first age
(line 4).
It could also be Doriath (read 'mantle of') the
Kingdom of Elwe in Beleriand.
Mike
--- Tony Zbaraschuk <tonyz@eskimo.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 02:17:04AM -0000, > georgepmason wrote:
> Can anyone help me with the following riddle. I
tried 'Avari' as the
> answer and would try 'Teleri' next turn. I just
don't know if I'm on
> the right track and would appreciate help with
this one:
>
> The west of the middle,
> where dwelt the grey
> who so in love did heed the ancient call
little
> til swallowed by that held at bay.
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where dwelt the grey
So the answer must be a place, not Teleri. Doriath is
the answer? That must be close.
I have a riddle that I need help with... two words.
Hobbit
Murderer
And "smeagol" was not the answer. Anyone have any
guesses? Sharky maybe?
thanks in advance,
Nick
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-Hobbit murdrer
I would guess Wormtongue,I believe he killed Lotho or someone like
that.
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Wasn't Gollum a "Hobbit", a "Murderer", and a Hobbit Murderer?
I think he was known as Smeagol then.
mjg1966uk wrote:
-Hobbit murdrer
I would guess Wormtongue,I believe he killed Lotho or someone like
that.
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Wormtongue maybe?? Wasnt he the one who killed Lobelias' son? aka the
Boss?
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where dwelt the grey
So the answer must be a place, not Teleri. Doriath is
the answer? That must be close.I have a riddle that I need help with... two words.
Hobbit
MurdererAnd "smeagol" was not the answer. Anyone have any
guesses? Sharky maybe?thanks in advance,
Nick__________________________________________________
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where dwelt the grey
So the answer must be a place, not Teleri. Doriath is
the answer? That must be close.
I have a riddle that I need help with... two words.
Hobbit
Murderer
And "smeagol" was not the answer. Anyone have any
guesses? Sharky maybe?
thanks in advance,
Nick
RD: Pretty sure it's "Gollum". Strictly speaking of course, you are right and GSI is wrong, because Smeagol was his name at the time of the murder. He only became known as Gollum later, after his banishment.
Richard.
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And "smeagol" was not the answer. Anyone have any
guesses? Sharky maybe?thanks in advance,
Nick
RD: Pretty sure it's "Gollum". Strictly speaking of course,
you are right and GSI is wrong, because Smeagol was his name at
the time of the murder. He only became known as Gollum later,
after his banishment.Richard.
The old policy at GSI was if you WERE right, but they just tossed in a
default name, you could write them and they would correct it...
I.E. the riddle that can be answered Sun is supposed to ALSO be answered in
Elvish for Sun. Blech.
Jeff
The old policy at GSI was if you WERE right, but they just tossed in a
default name, you could write them and they would correct it...
I.E. the riddle that can be answered Sun is supposed to ALSO be answered in
Elvish for Sun. Blech.
Jeff
RD: In that case it might be worthwhile writing to Harle asking if they will accept "Smeagol".
Richard.
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Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:03 PM
Subject: RE: [mepbmlist] another Riddle
>
>
> And "smeagol" was not the answer. Anyone have any
> guesses? Sharky maybe?
>
> thanks in advance,
> Nick
> RD: Pretty sure it's "Gollum". Strictly speaking of course,
> you are right and GSI is wrong, because Smeagol was his name at
> the time of the murder. He only became known as Gollum later,
> after his banishment.
>
> Richard.
>