Fellow Middle Earth experts,
If anyone can help with this riddle, I’d much appreciate it. It’s not on Bobbins and I haven’t read the books in a long time… I think I may have to get out the Silmarilion and Tolkein encyclopedia…
Named in Numenorean form
he led seven hundred into the besieging storm.
A mighty warrior on field and before gate,
Prince he, his daughter king-wed by fate.
thanks,
Dave
Is it Elendil???
Elendil;
Exiled from Numenor (son of the king), elf-friend, rode to the seige of barad dur.
I don’t know elendils family tree enough to know if he had a ‘famous’ daughter and the riddle has no sauron or ‘ring’ linkages mentioned.
Adrian
I know that many have this addy already, but you might be able to use it, Dave. Arguably the most comprehensive Tolkien site I’ve ever even heard of…
http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.asp
Wade
Or Elrond???
Elrond;
half-elf. Links to many ‘royal elf houses as well as the gil-galad, numenorian king. Is elrond a numenorean or elven name???
daughter, married aragorn "king’.
Don’t know about seiges or gates…
Adrian
Elendil won’t work, though. He only had the two boys…
Wade
How about Imrahil?
He was Prince of Dol Amroth, and he sent troops (a company of knights and 700 men-at-arms) to Minas Tirith who fought on the Pelennor fields and at the gates of Morannon. His daughter (Lothiriel) married Eomer, who was named King of Rohan after Theoden’s death. Finally, “Imrahil” is an Adunaic name, making it Numenorean in form. I suppose that’s a slam dunk, but maybe someone else will back me up. 
Darrell,
you are a life-saver (or at least you’ll help me get an artifact!).
That all seems to fit very nicely. I just looked him up in my Encyclopedia of Middle Earth, and there’s one short paragraph in the back about him. Did you remember this? If so, I’m VERY impressed!
Wade,
I looked at the Arda Encyclopedia site for a long time today, but I was stuck looking at the Last Alliance (Black Gate was my thinking), but none of the involved characters were a prince or had a daughter married to a King…
Also, is there a way to do a search on that site? I couldn’t find one.
Thank you everyone. I’m going with “Imrahil” and will report results on this thread after the turn runs.
cheers,
Dave
p.s. how do we update Bobbins?
He’s got the full set of riddle qualifications, my dudes were scratchy in a couple for each of them.
I agree that Imrahil seems to more than fit, even though the 700 troops is a bit of an underestimate… Hard to ignore a company of knights.
Adrian
PS good on ya darrell, you ME nerd. How do you keep track of the millions of details??? :o Imrahil was a bit player :rolleyes:
Adrian,
thanks also for your ideas. If Imrahil doesn’t work, we’ll look into those.
Dave
I agree, i stated on another thread that we needed a new database for encounters and riddles. A few people thought that it ruined the whole riddle aspect of the riddles 
I just feel it would be lots of work. 
Many of the encounters and riddles are well known with tried and true responses, some of the others… The hard job would be collating it all.
Adrian
Not that I generally share all my riddle details, but if you want to know how many there are, there are 170 riddles known to me counting 1650, 2950 and FA 1000. There might be more but I havent personally seen them yet.
If I request help on a riddle and it pans out, I will share the info. Currently I am waiting for Wednesdays turn to run to confirm an answer I asked for help on a few weeks ago.
I didn’t remember it verbatim like that. When I read “fields” and “gate” my brain just would not picture anything other than the Pelennor and Morannon, so I started thinking of everyone who led troops during those battles who could have been a prince, and as soon as I said the word “prince” in my head about 50 times, Imrahil popped up, so I started digging around the Internet, checking to see if he had a daughter that married a King (thanks Encyclopedia of Arda) and if he led “700 men” into battle (found that at Thain’s Book).
So no, I didn’t remember it all, I tried a few other names, too…but none of them worked and I kept coming back to the battles of Pelennor fields and Morannon.
I just hope it’s correct!
Well, this forum isn’t exactly a nice, neat database, but as an example, if someone comes here and clicks the “Search” link and puts in “Named in Numenorean form” they will get this thread, and (hopefully) the answer. So riddles that get discussed here on this site will show up in a search.
Not exactly a nice, convenient database of riddles, but better than nothing I suppose. I have other ideas for a real database, but those all require coding work on my part, and I’m lazy.
Your comment on how many riddles you had, inspired me go to my ‘Riddle’ folder and count. Hand scrawn on srap paper, I have 150 riddles. Darn!
p.s. how do we update Bobbins?
At present we’ve not got the resources to cover this as well, but if a player wants to take it up that would be fine with us.
Clint (GM)
“Imrahil” is the correct answer.
You are “da man” Darrell! many thanks and I take a deep bow to your ME knowledge!
Dave
Congrats! Glad I could help out.