Yes, naval combat is murky. My citation in the "old" rules, copyright 1992, is page 29 "Only the commander and crews manning the the transports and warships will be considered in such conflicts" and page 52 wich again mentions the commander, tactics and relations. The point of dessention is fleet morale. If the crews participate does their morale count? Yes. Why? Using the four part subformula has allowed me to predict enemy losses within one ship during many naval combats.
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From: "taurnil" <taurnil@yahoo.com>
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Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Rulebook--Naval Combat
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:04:05 -0000
--- In mepbmlist@y..., "Ovatha Easterling" <ovatha88@h...> wrote:
> The tactical factors for naval combat are command rank plus fleet
morale
> plus relations plus tactic vs tactic divide by four. This IS in
the rule
> book, but is scattered about and not in one paragraph.
Can you provide citations? I've spent a lot of time poring over the
naval rules (which are among the murkiest in the game) and I've
figured out a lot, but naval combat continues to mystify me. As to
_Whispers_ articles, remember that GSI always disavowed them. They
were player opinions only, except for a very few official
clarifications from GSI itself.
Mark Jaede
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--- In mepbmlist@y..., "Ovatha Easterling" <ovatha88@h...> wrote:
Yes, naval combat is murky. My citation in the "old" rules,
copyright 1992,
is page 29 "Only the commander and crews manning the the transports
and
warships will be considered in such conflicts" and page 52 wich
again
mentions the commander, tactics and relations.
OK. But that does not imply your algorithm. The army combat algorithm
doesn't work that way. You have invented an algorithm to incorporate
the data elements mentioned in the rules. ... which does not make you
wrong. It just means your formula is not in the rules, not even
implicitly.
The point of dessention is
fleet morale. If the crews participate does their morale count?
I believe the morale belongs to the troops, who do not participate,
not the crews, who do. Again, that doesn't make you wrong. I just
think that if morale is in the equation it contradicts the spirit of
the rulebook's description of what morale is.
Yes. Why?
Using the four part subformula has allowed me to predict enemy
losses
within one ship during many naval combats.
Now you're talking, and your success at prediction persuades me far
more than your other arguments. I have fiddled with other formulae
based mre closely on the published army combat formula and come up
with good predictions sometimes and very bad predictions other times.
How many cases have you successfuly predicted? How much info did you
have about your opponents' relations toward you and morale? What
tactic vs. tactic modifiers did you use (that's another one not fully
spelled out in the rules, and which could be different for navies
than for armies)? How about spellcasting, where you can't be exactly
sure of the effect of a variable spell?
Mark
