2 questions here:
1) roughly how much does threatening away a PC affect the loyalty. Is
it based on comm rank, size or army, fortifications etc
2) Has anyone ever spent the time to siege a PC and how long did it
take. Does the order have any use in the game at all?
Thanks, Jeff.
It might be used if you have a large enough army to siege the place but
not large enough to take the city, with more troops arriving next
turn, to prevent the enemy from hiring a defending army.
Personally, if I really want to siege the place I use a C30 with
100 suicide men-at-arms. I've tried siege orders when I had nothing
better to do, but usually I try and arrive on the place with enough
force to take it.
Tony Z
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 05:07:49PM -0000, paolotendes wrote:
2 questions here:
1) roughly how much does threatening away a PC affect the loyalty. Is
it based on comm rank, size or army, fortifications etc2) Has anyone ever spent the time to siege a PC and how long did it
take. Does the order have any use in the game at all?
--
Nonintervention does not mean that nothing happens. It means
that something else happens. (Christopher Hitchens, on Darfur)
The main idea is to prevent the enemy from hiring new troops, so you have
time to bring a larger army or to bring an emissary squad...
On 4/20/07, Tony Zbaraschuk <tonyz@eskimo.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 05:07:49PM -0000, paolotendes wrote:
> 2 questions here:
>
> 1) roughly how much does threatening away a PC affect the loyalty. Is
> it based on comm rank, size or army, fortifications etc
>
> 2) Has anyone ever spent the time to siege a PC and how long did it
> take. Does the order have any use in the game at all?It might be used if you have a large enough army to siege the place but
not large enough to take the city, with more troops arriving next
turn, to prevent the enemy from hiring a defending army.Personally, if I really want to siege the place I use a C30 with
100 suicide men-at-arms. I've tried siege orders when I had nothing
better to do, but usually I try and arrive on the place with enough
force to take it.Tony Z
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that something else happens. (Christopher Hitchens, on Darfur)
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The problem is, a siege order (260) seems to be seldom any more likely to succeed than a threat -- and if a threat is only slightly less likely, and actually gets you the pop center if it succeeds, then why siege for a minor loyalty drop IFF the pop center doesn't have food? That is, of course, if the enemy does not have an army there. IF there is an army there, then a threat won't work and a siege might -- and it would prevent the recruitment of more troops. But if not facing an army, then if you are thinking about a siege, think seriously about a threat instead. The chance of success is almost as high and the payoff is a LOT better.
As another player noted, the "sieged" condition is often more easily arranged by having a small army with an expendable commander assault the walls. The army commander will die, but the pop center will be under siege (yep, 100 mannish slaves CAN assault the walls of a City/Citadel and somehow manage to put the entire city under siege, sigh) so no revenue, no production, no selling of local stores, no general shipments in or out, no recruiting or hiring. Some things CAN still be done -- a sieged capital can still issue natsell orders to sell from all non-sieged pop centers for instance -- but siege can often mess up an enemy's plans enough to make sacrificing a commander worthwhile.
I am not certain, but I believe the loyalty of a pop center that was successfully threatened doesn't depend on its original loyalty but rather, much like a capture, is related to the command rank of the army commander that did the threat. Chance of success may well depend heavily on original loyalty, but if they surrender, then that loyalty no longer matters. Or so I believe...
-- Ernie III
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From: ribeiro.leonardo@gmail.com
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] siege and threats
The main idea is to prevent the enemy from hiring new troops, so you have
time to bring a larger army or to bring an emissary squad...
On 4/20/07, Tony Zbaraschuk <tonyz@eskimo.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 05:07:49PM -0000, paolotendes wrote:
> 2 questions here:
>
> 1) roughly how much does threatening away a PC affect the loyalty. Is
> it based on comm rank, size or army, fortifications etc
>
> 2) Has anyone ever spent the time to siege a PC and how long did it
> take. Does the order have any use in the game at all?It might be used if you have a large enough army to siege the place but
not large enough to take the city, with more troops arriving next
turn, to prevent the enemy from hiring a defending army.Personally, if I really want to siege the place I use a C30 with
100 suicide men-at-arms. I've tried siege orders when I had nothing
better to do, but usually I try and arrive on the place with enough
force to take it.Tony Z
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that something else happens. (Christopher Hitchens, on Darfur)
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Thanks Ernie, much appreciated.
DrakaraGM@aol.com wrote: The problem is, a siege order (260) seems to be seldom any more likely to succeed than a threat -- and if a threat is only slightly less likely, and actually gets you the pop center if it succeeds, then why siege for a minor loyalty drop IFF the pop center doesn't have food? That is, of course, if the enemy does not have an army there. IF there is an army there, then a threat won't work and a siege might -- and it would prevent the recruitment of more troops. But if not facing an army, then if you are thinking about a siege, think seriously about a threat instead. The chance of success is almost as high and the payoff is a LOT better.
As another player noted, the "sieged" condition is often more easily arranged by having a small army with an expendable commander assault the walls. The army commander will die, but the pop center will be under siege (yep, 100 mannish slaves CAN assault the walls of a City/Citadel and somehow manage to put the entire city under siege, sigh) so no revenue, no production, no selling of local stores, no general shipments in or out, no recruiting or hiring. Some things CAN still be done -- a sieged capital can still issue natsell orders to sell from all non-sieged pop centers for instance -- but siege can often mess up an enemy's plans enough to make sacrificing a commander worthwhile.
I am not certain, but I believe the loyalty of a pop center that was successfully threatened doesn't depend on its original loyalty but rather, much like a capture, is related to the command rank of the army commander that did the threat. Chance of success may well depend heavily on original loyalty, but if they surrender, then that loyalty no longer matters. Or so I believe...
-- Ernie III
-----Original Message-----
From: ribeiro.leonardo@gmail.com
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] siege and threats
The main idea is to prevent the enemy from hiring new troops, so you have
time to bring a larger army or to bring an emissary squad...
On 4/20/07, Tony Zbaraschuk <tonyz@eskimo.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 05:07:49PM -0000, paolotendes wrote:
> 2 questions here:
>
> 1) roughly how much does threatening away a PC affect the loyalty. Is
> it based on comm rank, size or army, fortifications etc
>
> 2) Has anyone ever spent the time to siege a PC and how long did it
> take. Does the order have any use in the game at all?It might be used if you have a large enough army to siege the place but
not large enough to take the city, with more troops arriving next
turn, to prevent the enemy from hiring a defending army.Personally, if I really want to siege the place I use a C30 with
100 suicide men-at-arms. I've tried siege orders when I had nothing
better to do, but usually I try and arrive on the place with enough
force to take it.Tony Z
--
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that something else happens. (Christopher Hitchens, on Darfur)
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In my experience, the 'siege' order was useful in the GSI days. For those who never played the game as envisioned by the game creators: Communication and coordination was less, the 'fog-of-war' was ever present. A nation could be knocked out and its allies would not know about it. Hence, no one screaming for agent support or a relief army. The besieger actually had that most valuable of commodities---TIME. A weak commander and a weak army could/would siege and actually capture a pop center.
Ed
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Reply-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mepbmlist] siege and threats
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:07:49 -00002 questions here:
1) roughly how much does threatening away a PC affect the loyalty. Is
it based on comm rank, size or army, fortifications etc2) Has anyone ever spent the time to siege a PC and how long did it
take. Does the order have any use in the game at all?Thanks, Jeff.
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The Forum failed to load up for me the first time I tried this AM as well. I cancelled after a few seconds as it just looked "laggy" to me. Tried again just now and it looked fine.
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(800) 345-6336
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Seems to be okay now.
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What address are you using to access the forums? "Suckslave.org" is
a domain I own (it's a joke, not a porn site, just don't try the .com,
which is NOT mine) and is located on the same server as the forums.
You should be using "mepbm.com", "www.mepbm.com". But still I'd like
ot know what address you're using so I can see what is going on.
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Is it just my computer? When trying to access the Forum I get the
message, from my security system, that someone is trying to divert me
to 'suckslave.org'. Anyone else with this problem?
I believe that the problem lies with my service provider in
Philadelphia. They have been having weird network problems off and on
for a few days now. Some people are affected, others are not. It all
depends on your "path" over the network to the site.
Darrell
The Forum failed to load up for me the first time I tried this AM as
well. I cancelled after a few seconds as it just looked "laggy" to
me. Tried again just now and it looked fine.
Darrell:
Was trying to reach www.mepbm.com from the local library.
Changed libraries and had no problem.
Ed
What address are you using to access the forums? "Suckslave.org" isa domain I own (it's a joke, not a porn site, just don't try the .com,which is NOT mine) and is located on the same server as the forums. You should be using "mepbm.com", "www.mepbm.com". But still I'd likeot know what address you're using so I can see what is going on.Darrell (forums admin)--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, Ovatha Easterling <ovatha88@...> wrote:>> Is it just my computer? When trying to access the Forum I get themessage, from my security system, that someone is trying to divert meto 'suckslave.org'. Anyone else with this problem?> Ed
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Sounds like their DNS servers got screwed up and were resolving the
www.mepbm.com <http://www.mepbm.com/> domain incorrectly. When I tried
pinging the address, it would fail 2 out of 4 times. Later it started
working correctly. I'd lay this one on the shoulders of your service
provider/web host/DNS Registrar. I don't know who you use, buyt we use
Rackspace managed hosting for our production servers, and I have my personal
stuff through GoDaddy. Haven't had any issue so far with either. Of
course, Rackspace is EXPENSIVE, but worth it for a business that lives and
dies by its website.
Be safe out there!
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:05 AM
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Forum
I believe that the problem lies with my service provider in
Philadelphia. They have been having weird network problems off and on
for a few days now. Some people are affected, others are not. It all
depends on your "path" over the network to the site.
Darrell
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Drukarzun <drukarzun@...> wrote:
The Forum failed to load up for me the first time I tried this AM as
well. I cancelled after a few seconds as it just looked "laggy" to
me. Tried again just now and it looked fine.
Drew
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Sounds like their DNS servers got screwed up and were resolving the
www.mepbm.com <http://www.mepbm.com/> domain incorrectly.
After the problem came up, I actually changed the IP address, and that
took a little while to propagate out, I think (not too long, though.)
I don't know who you use, but we use
Rackspace managed hosting for our production servers
I worked for Rackspace for 7 years, from January 2000 until January
2007. I started there as employee #40 as a Linux support tech. For
my last several years, I was a "Linux Systems Engineer" for the IT
department, mostly working on Directory Services projects. My wife
still works there, for the portal team (MyRackspace). I gave it all
up to go back to working on helicopters (I am also an A&P mechanic).
--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Bolin" <Robert@...> wrote:
I don't know about everyone else, but "Rackspace" doesn't sound like a place
a Linux Systems Engineer is typically employed ...
Sorry, had to. 
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To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
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--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Bolin" <Robert@...> wrote:
Sounds like their DNS servers got screwed up and were resolving the
www.mepbm.com <http://www.mepbm.com/> domain incorrectly.
After the problem came up, I actually changed the IP address, and that
took a little while to propagate out, I think (not too long, though.)
I don't know who you use, but we use
Rackspace managed hosting for our production servers
I worked for Rackspace for 7 years, from January 2000 until January
2007. I started there as employee #40 as a Linux support tech. For
my last several years, I was a "Linux Systems Engineer" for the IT
department, mostly working on Directory Services projects. My wife
still works there, for the portal team (MyRackspace). I gave it all
up to go back to working on helicopters (I am also an A&P mechanic).
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Be safe out there!
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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:28 AM
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Forum
--- In mepbmlist@yahoogrou <mailto:mepbmlist%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com,
"Robert Bolin" <Robert@...> wrote:
Sounds like their DNS servers got screwed up and were resolving the
www.mepbm.com <http://www.mepbm.com/> com/> domain
incorrectly.
After the problem came up, I actually changed the IP address, and that
took a little while to propagate out, I think (not too long, though.)
I don't know who you use, but we use
Rackspace managed hosting for our production servers
I worked for Rackspace for 7 years, from January 2000 until January
2007. I started there as employee #40 as a Linux support tech. For
my last several years, I was a "Linux Systems Engineer" for the IT
department, mostly working on Directory Services projects. My wife
still works there, for the portal team (MyRackspace). I gave it all
up to go back to working on helicopters (I am also an A&P mechanic).
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