what capital orders can still be executed if the capital is sieged?
which one's wont go through?
The only thing that can't happen at sieged pop centers, including
capitals, is hiring a new army. Remember, you'll also lose income,
production, and will not be able to sell any product from said pop
center, or transfer product to/from the pop center as well.
So at your capital, you should be able to name characters, issue
nation sale orders (remember, no product will be sold from the
capital), etc. I believe you can still issue nation transfer orders,
but you might not be able to send gold from your capital. Never
tried this.
- Ben
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what capital orders can still be executed if the capital is sieged?
which one's wont go through?
The only thing that can't happen at sieged pop centers, including
capitals, is hiring a new army. Remember, you'll also lose income,
production, and will not be able to sell any product from said pop
center, or transfer product to/from the pop center as well.
So at your capital, you should be able to name characters, issue
nation sale orders (remember, no product will be sold from the
capital), etc. I believe you can still issue nation transfer orders,
but you might not be able to send gold from your capital. Never
tried this.
- Ben
Ben, I've checked the rulebook, and I'm afraid you're wrong on at least 2 counts. You can NOT do 947 or 948 orders if your capital is under siege. Not only can you not hire army, you can't recruit either.
I checked the rulebook about the 325 natsell order, because I've always thought you can't do that if your capital is sieged. To my surprise, you appear to be right: you CAN give a natsell order from a sieged capital, but you won't sell any stores from the capital or any other pop under siege.
Hope that helps,
Richard.
> what capital orders can still be executed if the capital is sieged?
>
> which one's wont go through?
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From: benmin18
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:01 PM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Sieged capital question
--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, RFmehl@a... wrote:
Ben, I've checked the rulebook, and I'm afraid you're wrong on at
least 2 counts. You can NOT do 947 or 948 orders if your capital is
under siege. Not only can you not hire army, you can't recruit
either.
I checked the rulebook about the 325 natsell order, because I've
always thought you can't do that if your capital is sieged. To my
surprise, you appear to be right: you CAN give a natsell order from a
sieged capital, but you won't sell any stores from the capital or any
other pop under siege.
Hope that helps,
Richard.
Hey Richard, what capital orders can you execute when your capitals
are being burned down around your ears? (snort, snort)
A low blow, but I couldn't resist.
Mark Jaede
of the WOTR 239 Free
Ben, I've checked the rulebook, and I'm afraid you're wrong on at
least 2 counts. You can NOT do 947 or 948 orders if your capital is
under siege. Not only can you not hire army, you can't recruit
either.
>
> I checked the rulebook about the 325 natsell order, because I've
always thought you can't do that if your capital is sieged. To my
surprise, you appear to be right: you CAN give a natsell order from a
sieged capital, but you won't sell any stores from the capital or any
other pop under siege.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Richard.
Hey Richard, what capital orders can you execute when your capitals
are being burned down around your ears? (snort, snort)
A low blow, but I couldn't resist.
Mark Jaede
of the WOTR 239 Free
Not gonna bite,
Richard.
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From: Mark Jaede
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 1:52 PM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Sieged capital question
Actually you can still do 948 transfer by caravans order. But you
need a character in the origin hex to execute the order, and the
origin hex does not have to be the capital. I forgot that 947
requires the character issuing the order to be at the capital.
But this brings up an interesting question, has anyone ever tried to
transfer gold from a population center other than the capital? And
if so, how much, and was it successful? Logic would lead me to
believe that one could only transfer the amount of gold produced from
the origin population center and that anything larger than what is
produced would have to be done from the capital because gold
transferred from the capital would be considered drawn from the
treasury, so all reserves would be available.
- Ben
Ben, I've checked the rulebook, and I'm afraid you're wrong on at
least 2 counts. You can NOT do 947 or 948 orders if your capital is
under siege. Not only can you not hire army, you can't recruit
either.
I checked the rulebook about the 325 natsell order, because I've
always thought you can't do that if your capital is sieged. To my
surprise, you appear to be right: you CAN give a natsell order from a
sieged capital, but you won't sell any stores from the capital or any
other pop under siege.
Actually you can still do 948 transfer by caravans order. But you
need a character in the origin hex to execute the order, and the
origin hex does not have to be the capital. I forgot that 947
requires the character issuing the order to be at the capital.
RD: Correct. When I said you can't do a 948, I meant that you can't do it from a sieged capital. Of course you can still do it from/to a non-sieged pop.
But this brings up an interesting question, has anyone ever tried to
transfer gold from a population center other than the capital? And
if so, how much, and was it successful? Logic would lead me to
believe that one could only transfer the amount of gold produced from
the origin population center and that anything larger than what is
produced would have to be done from the capital because gold
transferred from the capital would be considered drawn from the
treasury, so all reserves would be available.
- Ben
RD: The rulebook says under 948: "If the product is gold, then the origin hex and the destination hex will be considered to be the capitals (even if hidden) regardless of what hexes are indicated."
So you cannot 948 gold production from a non-capital hex.
Richard.
>
> Ben, I've checked the rulebook, and I'm afraid you're wrong on at
least 2 counts. You can NOT do 947 or 948 orders if your capital is
under siege. Not only can you not hire army, you can't recruit
either.
>
> I checked the rulebook about the 325 natsell order, because I've
always thought you can't do that if your capital is sieged. To my
surprise, you appear to be right: you CAN give a natsell order from a
sieged capital, but you won't sell any stores from the capital or any
other pop under siege.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Richard.
>
>
>
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From: benmin18
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 10:07 PM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Sieged capital question - gold transfer question
--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard DEVEREUX" <rd@p...> wrote:
You definitely can transfer all gold from a non-capital hex. I seem to remember it's even suggested that you transfer from a new camp to a new camp so that the enemy, getting rumours, don't know where it went.
Richard
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From: benmin18
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 10:07 PM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Sieged capital question - gold transfer question
Actually you can still do 948 transfer by caravans order. But you
need a character in the origin hex to execute the order, and the
origin hex does not have to be the capital. I forgot that 947
requires the character issuing the order to be at the capital.
But this brings up an interesting question, has anyone ever tried to
transfer gold from a population center other than the capital? And
if so, how much, and was it successful? Logic would lead me to
believe that one could only transfer the amount of gold produced from
the origin population center and that anything larger than what is
produced would have to be done from the capital because gold
transferred from the capital would be considered drawn from the
treasury, so all reserves would be available.
- Ben
--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard DEVEREUX" <rd@p...> wrote:
>
> Ben, I've checked the rulebook, and I'm afraid you're wrong on at
least 2 counts. You can NOT do 947 or 948 orders if your capital is
under siege. Not only can you not hire army, you can't recruit
either.
>
> I checked the rulebook about the 325 natsell order, because I've
always thought you can't do that if your capital is sieged. To my
surprise, you appear to be right: you CAN give a natsell order from a
sieged capital, but you won't sell any stores from the capital or any
other pop under siege.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Richard.
>
>
>
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I concur with this statement.
My gold transfers regularly come from non-capital PCs to non-capital
PCs and the advantage is that these are the transfer points reported
in the rumors section.
Unfortunately I do not know what happens in this regard if the
capital is being seiged. I would assume that the transfer occurs
without issue, but I can not say for certain.
Chris
--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Farrer" <richard@r...>
wrote:
You definitely can transfer all gold from a non-capital hex. I
seem to remember it's even suggested that you transfer from a new
camp to a new camp so that the enemy, getting rumours, don't know
where it went.
Richard
From: benmin18
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 10:07 PM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Sieged capital question - gold transfer
question
Actually you can still do 948 transfer by caravans order. But
you
need a character in the origin hex to execute the order, and the
origin hex does not have to be the capital. I forgot that 947
requires the character issuing the order to be at the capital.But this brings up an interesting question, has anyone ever tried
to
transfer gold from a population center other than the capital?
And
if so, how much, and was it successful? Logic would lead me to
believe that one could only transfer the amount of gold produced
from
the origin population center and that anything larger than what
is
produced would have to be done from the capital because gold
transferred from the capital would be considered drawn from the
treasury, so all reserves would be available.- Ben
--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard DEVEREUX" <rd@p...>
wrote:
>
> Ben, I've checked the rulebook, and I'm afraid you're wrong
on at
least 2 counts. You can NOT do 947 or 948 orders if your capital
is
under siege. Not only can you not hire army, you can't recruit
either.
>
> I checked the rulebook about the 325 natsell order, because
I've
always thought you can't do that if your capital is sieged. To
my
surprise, you appear to be right: you CAN give a natsell order
from a
sieged capital, but you won't sell any stores from the capital or
any
other pop under siege.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Richard.
>
>
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