Taxes Question

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#1

Will your nation's taxes be involuntarily increased if at any point
during the turn you run out of money, or only if you are out of
money at the end of the turn (or some other specific point during
the turn)?

For example, if you purchase a quantity of goods on the market at a
price that reduces your gold reserves to a negative number, but
subsequently sell sufficient quantities of goods to cover the
shortfall, will your taxes go up?

#2

No, in this case.

Events are...

1) Receive tax and production
2) Buy
3) Sell
4) Pay bills.

Taxes go up in step 4 if you don't have the money to
pay your bills, and only here.

Example.....
5K in the bank
20K in tax and gold produciton
= 25K available for purchases

Purchase 20K supplies
= 5K in the bank

Sell good for 10K
=15K available to pay your bills

20K in bills
= Taxes go up by the amount needed to bring in an
extra 5K.

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--- jjobrien3 <jim@obzone.com> wrote:

Will your nation's taxes be involuntarily increased
if at any point
during the turn you run out of money, or only if you
are out of
money at the end of the turn (or some other specific
point during
the turn)?

For example, if you purchase a quantity of goods on
the market at a
price that reduces your gold reserves to a negative
number, but
subsequently sell sufficient quantities of goods to
cover the
shortfall, will your taxes go up?

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#3

Events are...

1) Receive tax and production
2) Buy
3) Sell
4) Pay bills.

Taxes go up in step 4 if you don't have the money to
pay your bills, and only here.

Note that if they go up _right here_ beyond 100%, you are
immediately bankrupt and out of the game, even if your friends
shipped you a lot of gold, because that won't arrive until
the end of the turn, by which time you are already dangling
from a lamp-post while the peasants run wild :wink:

Tony Z

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On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 06:13:06PM -0700, Darrell Shimel wrote:

Example.....
5K in the bank
20K in tax and gold produciton
= 25K available for purchases

Purchase 20K supplies
= 5K in the bank

Sell good for 10K
=15K available to pay your bills

20K in bills
= Taxes go up by the amount needed to bring in an
extra 5K.

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#4

Thanks for the replies.

On a related note, if I am selling large quantities of a product, at
what point (amt of product, $ value of sale, or other factors)
should I start being concerned that the entire sale may not go
through?

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--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, Tony Zbaraschuk <tonyz@e...> wrote:

On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 06:13:06PM -0700, Darrell Shimel wrote:
> Events are...
>
> 1) Receive tax and production
> 2) Buy
> 3) Sell
> 4) Pay bills.
>
> Taxes go up in step 4 if you don't have the money to
> pay your bills, and only here.

Note that if they go up _right here_ beyond 100%, you are
immediately bankrupt and out of the game, even if your friends
shipped you a lot of gold, because that won't arrive until
the end of the turn, by which time you are already dangling
from a lamp-post while the peasants run wild :wink:

Tony Z

>
> Example.....
> 5K in the bank
> 20K in tax and gold produciton
> = 25K available for purchases
>
> Purchase 20K supplies
> = 5K in the bank
>
> Sell good for 10K
> =15K available to pay your bills
>
> 20K in bills
> = Taxes go up by the amount needed to bring in an
> extra 5K.
>
>
>
>
>
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You're complaining about entropy? Things are always falling
apart, and it's up to us to be always putting them back together.
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#5

Generally, the sell limit varies between 20K and 30K gold (though
I've seen it go higher; it never drops below about 20K. The total
limit tends to be low during economic depression, ie. when all
prices are low and most nations don't have a lot of money.).

Type of product, number of different sales, etc., don't seem to
matter, only the total value of all sales -- and if you try to
sell more than the limit, your last sale(s) will be reduced to
make sure you don't go over it.

Tony Z

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On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 01:56:19AM -0000, jjobrien3 wrote:

Thanks for the replies.

On a related note, if I am selling large quantities of a product, at
what point (amt of product, $ value of sale, or other factors)
should I start being concerned that the entire sale may not go
through?

--
"Things fall apart, the center cannot hold." Yeah, and?
You're complaining about entropy? Things are always falling
apart, and it's up to us to be always putting them back together.
--Derek Lowe, reacting to Yeats' "The Second Coming"