--- In mepbmlist@y..., Din <din_ohtar@y...> wrote:
greetings.
Any chance someone knows the answer to this riddle ...
In a forest lived he
as hearty as the proverbial tree.
During the struggle he helped as he could
but, in the end, he did as he would.thanks
din
I broke down. I posted on rec.arts.books.tolkien and asked them for
help 
Will be interesting to see what alternatives they come up with.
After that message got posted to rec.arts.books.tolkien they have come
up with one interesting possibility:
AMROTH
He lived in Lorien (The forest)
He led the Lorien forces during the Last Aliance (the struggle)
In the end he abandoned Lorien in pursuit of Nimrodel (did as he would)
Not sure about the Hearty Tree bit though
Duncan
Din wrote:
> >
> Well, having a quick hunt around on the web, the
> following list of
> wrong answers can be found:where did you get them ? i looked at bobbin's, facade,
and stormy and couldn't find the riddle.>
> NOT: Fangorn, Quickbeam, Radagast, Legolas,
> Thranduil, Tom Bombadil,
> Celeborn, Old Man Willow, Ghan-buri-Ghan, Beornoops, Tom was going to be my second guess. The ents
are nice guesses, but you would have to be desperate
to think that old man willow would be the answer.>
> Is there maybe some first/second age angle on this
> (Doriath maybe) ?"In a forest lived he
as hearty as the proverbial tree.
During the struggle he helped as he could
but, in the end, he did as he would".doriath is a place, so we cross that off.
The answer is a creature. He (so no females), lived in
a forest, he gave some help to one side (I assume its
the free, but it doesn't have to be). Later on he
followed his nature and went his own way, so his aid
stopped.the 'struggle' could be anything. I would think third
age since this age saw the human take over middle
earth. For the elves it was a real struggle to hold on
to what they had. But it could be an earlier age.Eol maybe ? He lived in a forest. 'Technically' he was
one of the good guys, and he did some good deeds. And
he certainly didn't continue to help the freeAnother question - what's the amerian definition of
'hearty' ?thanks for the help
din
Ahhaa!!! "Not sure about the Hearty Tree bit though"
Proverbial... all of us appear to be guilty of being too literal!
Duncan may have stumbled into this one, i.e., the metaphor!
The reference to the tree is the metaphorical form that embodies the
common observation - "as hearty as a PROVERBIAL tree."
I would have thought along the lines of Ents, etc. but that is too
literal. The subtlety of the metaphor makes this riddle priceless.
My money is on AMROTH.
Of course... just my opinion. I may be wrong Never have come
across this one.
Christopher
--- In mepbmlist@y..., Duncan <duncan.harris@u...> wrote:
After that message got posted to rec.arts.books.tolkien they have
come
up with one interesting possibility:
AMROTH
He lived in Lorien (The forest)
He led the Lorien forces during the Last Aliance (the struggle)
In the end he abandoned Lorien in pursuit of Nimrodel (did as he
would)
Not sure about the Hearty Tree bit though
Duncan
Din wrote:
>
> > >
> > Well, having a quick hunt around on the web, the
> > following list of
> > wrong answers can be found:
>
> where did you get them ? i looked at bobbin's, facade,
> and stormy and couldn't find the riddle.
>
> >
> > NOT: Fangorn, Quickbeam, Radagast, Legolas,
> > Thranduil, Tom Bombadil,
> > Celeborn, Old Man Willow, Ghan-buri-Ghan, Beorn
>
> oops, Tom was going to be my second guess. The ents
> are nice guesses, but you would have to be desperate
> to think that old man willow would be the answer.
>
> >
> > Is there maybe some first/second age angle on this
> > (Doriath maybe) ?
>
> "In a forest lived he
> as hearty as the proverbial tree.
> During the struggle he helped as he could
> but, in the end, he did as he would".
>
> doriath is a place, so we cross that off.
>
> The answer is a creature. He (so no females), lived in
> a forest, he gave some help to one side (I assume its
> the free, but it doesn't have to be). Later on he
> followed his nature and went his own way, so his aid
> stopped.
>
> the 'struggle' could be anything. I would think third
> age since this age saw the human take over middle
> earth. For the elves it was a real struggle to hold on
> to what they had. But it could be an earlier age.
>
> Eol maybe ? He lived in a forest. 'Technically' he was
> one of the good guys, and he did some good deeds. And
> he certainly didn't continue to help the free
>
> Another question - what's the amerian definition of
> 'hearty' ?
>
> thanks for the help
> din
>
--- Christopher <montgomery9535@yahoo.com> wrote: >
Ahhaa!!! "Not sure about the Hearty Tree bit
though"
Proverbial... all of us appear to be guilty of being
too literal!
Duncan may have stumbled into this one, i.e., the
metaphor!The reference to the tree is the metaphorical form
that embodies the
common observation - "as hearty as a PROVERBIAL
tree."I would have thought along the lines of Ents, etc.
but that is too
literal. The subtlety of the metaphor makes this
riddle priceless.My money is on AMROTH.
Of course... just my opinion. I may be wrong
Never have come
across this one.
thanks. my turnsheet says i can investigate again, but
i'll go straight to the answer the riddle bit.
if i pick up the ROW, i won't use it on you this turn.
din
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Din wrote:
--- Christopher <montgomery9535@yahoo.com> wrote: >
Ahhaa!!! "Not sure about the Hearty Tree bit
> though"
>
> Proverbial... all of us appear to be guilty of being
> too literal!
> Duncan may have stumbled into this one, i.e., the
> metaphor!
>
> The reference to the tree is the metaphorical form
> that embodies the
> common observation - "as hearty as a PROVERBIAL
> tree."
>
> I would have thought along the lines of Ents, etc.
> but that is too
> literal. The subtlety of the metaphor makes this
> riddle priceless.
>
> My money is on AMROTH.
>
> Of course... just my opinion. I may be wrong
> Never have come
> across this one.
>thanks. my turnsheet says i can investigate again, but
i'll go straight to the answer the riddle bit.if i pick up the ROW, i won't use it on you this turn.
din
But if it works let us know because I have the same riddle in another
game.
I may just go back and answer it.
cheers,
Duncan