I agree with Brad 100%. Part of the genius of this game is its ability to mimic Real World management problems. This is because of the 'human' element built in by upto 25 persons interacting. Eventually, you will meet the functional equivilent of Idi Amin. Clint, don't interfer with this human interaction.
Anyone in business, industry or government knows that there are inefficient or incompetent elements in those organizations. Part of being a good administrator/manager/leader is taking that into account and working around those weaknesses. Clint, don'r spoon feed us.
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From: "kingoftherill" <kingoftherill@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mepbmlist] The Shadow turn discussion
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 13:37:18 -0000I think there is an issue being over looked here. There may be a
reason that you haven't received communication from the missing
player x. It may be intentional. For Clint to send out a pdf, for
that player to you and allow you to submit contingency orders for
that nation without that nations players permission is wrong. As long
as that player has his account up to date and has not missed his last
turns orders and thus had been special serviced there is no reason in
the world for Clint to get involved in such a situation.It obviously makes for a better game when everyone on a team
cooperates, shares information and works for a common goal, however
you do not have a right to see anyone elses nation information. You
have the opportunity to see that information because they trust you
and wish to work with you. If they don't trust you and thus are not
communicating with you it certainly is a problem in your teams
planning but as long as they are fullfilling their obligation to ME
Games ie submitting turns on time and keeping their account funded,
Clint should not get involved in sending out information.As for the free service discussion, I believe that ME games charges
me to send me a copy of my pdf if I report I didn't get it. ME games
has the obligation to process the orders for games in progress in a
timely matter. We as players have the obligation to submit our turns
in a timely matter and not wait until the last moment to get our
orders in. Doing a Shadow turn is not providing Clint with a service,
it is helping you not Clint. Players who get peed off at Clint
because player x misses his turn accidentally or deliberately are
looking in the wrong direction to place their picque. If anyone their
complaint is with player x. Now they may voice their complaint about
player x to Clint and he can then get involved in trying to resolve
the impasse between the players if there is one, but as long as that
player is meeting his obligations to the moderator I feel it is his
choice as to who in the game he works with.Brad
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