Clint:
Thanks for the clarification. Are you still moderating this List? This last thread sure got here quicker than items of, say, a month ago.
Ed Mills
Sorry guys - should have been more clear. We've made no changes to stealth
nor as a company have we expressed anything about the way stealth works -
that's very much to be discovered in the course of play.
Clint GM
As a player my opinion is that I think that either 1) there's a roll (like
with the Reveal PC there's clearly two rolls one to cast the spell and one
to see if the spell actually reveals the PC) and you get from 0-X where X =
Stealth rank as a bonus to your agent rank, or 2) that Stealth helps you
bypass fortifications by minimising their impact (1 level for each 10
stealth) but these are only player opinions that I've worked out playing
the game and should be taken only that way. I've seen some wacky results -
where we've tried to steal artefacts or steal gold with high stealth
characters (or even the occasional assassinate) and there is a wide range
of results.
Clint player
(I generally try not to comment on such game mechanics as I am aware of the
line between GM and player and that sometimes players could be confused by
a statement by me and not sure whether or not it's a GM or player comment).
Clint GM
However, I don't like the implication or the stated fact that we would
change the code without chatting to players. Everything I've done implies
that I wouldn't do that nor do we have any plans to change the way stealth
impacts on the game. If you guys feel that it should be changed then we an
certainly start a discussion on that topic. Ed has claimed this several
times or implies that we will do in the future without extensive
consultation. I like the game as it is and think it's grand and think that
there is no reason to change Stealth.
Hope that clarifies things and apologies for any confusion that my comments
might have caused.
Clint GM
>Clint:
>I was trying to make plain that my answer was not a final one written in
>stone. It was subject to change without any notice from me. Since you are
>moderating this List, and have to approve all submissions, you could have
>prevented its publication. Couldn't you? Or has there been a change I am
>not aware of?
>
>So, tell us just how the stealth bonus works.
>Ed Mills
>
> >From: ME Games Ltd <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
> >Reply-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
> >To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: RE: [mepbmlist] The weight of stealth
> >Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 02:01:43 +0100
> >
> > >My belief is that stealth adds a random number between one and the
> >maximum
> > >value to the agent rank. So, in your example, he isactually a 51 to 75
> > >agent. Now this is not from Mt. Sinai. Harley's obtaining of the Source
> > >Codes is liable to change this and other issues without notice.
> >
> >This is plainly not the case. What evidence do you have to back this up
> >Ed? This is pretty close to slander actually and I'm not happy with such
> >comments. We'll chat to players before any changes are made.
> >
> >Clint
> >
>
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Also there was that bit of spam that got by . . but perhaps that was when Clint was gone to Florida, the land of Sunshine? How'd ya like that heat, Gloomy Rain Boy?
Russ
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ovatha Easterling
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: [mepbmlist] The weight of stealth
Clint:
Thanks for the clarification. Are you still moderating this List? This
last thread sure got here quicker than items of, say, a month ago.
Ed Mills
>From: ME Games Ltd <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
>Reply-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
>To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [mepbmlist] The weight of stealth
>Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 17:48:49 +0100
>
>Sorry guys - should have been more clear. We've made no changes to stealth
>nor as a company have we expressed anything about the way stealth works -
>that's very much to be discovered in the course of play.
>
>Clint GM
>
>As a player my opinion is that I think that either 1) there's a roll (like
>with the Reveal PC there's clearly two rolls one to cast the spell and one
>to see if the spell actually reveals the PC) and you get from 0-X where X =
>Stealth rank as a bonus to your agent rank, or 2) that Stealth helps you
>bypass fortifications by minimising their impact (1 level for each 10
>stealth) but these are only player opinions that I've worked out playing
>the game and should be taken only that way. I've seen some wacky results -
>where we've tried to steal artefacts or steal gold with high stealth
>characters (or even the occasional assassinate) and there is a wide range
>of results.
>
>Clint player
>
>(I generally try not to comment on such game mechanics as I am aware of the
>line between GM and player and that sometimes players could be confused by
>a statement by me and not sure whether or not it's a GM or player comment).
>
>Clint GM
>
>However, I don't like the implication or the stated fact that we would
>change the code without chatting to players. Everything I've done implies
>that I wouldn't do that nor do we have any plans to change the way stealth
>impacts on the game. If you guys feel that it should be changed then we an
>certainly start a discussion on that topic. Ed has claimed this several
>times or implies that we will do in the future without extensive
>consultation. I like the game as it is and think it's grand and think that
>there is no reason to change Stealth.
>
>Hope that clarifies things and apologies for any confusion that my comments
>might have caused.
>
>Clint GM
>
>
> >Clint:
> >I was trying to make plain that my answer was not a final one written in
> >stone. It was subject to change without any notice from me. Since you
>are
> >moderating this List, and have to approve all submissions, you could have
> >prevented its publication. Couldn't you? Or has there been a change I
>am
> >not aware of?
> >
> >So, tell us just how the stealth bonus works.
> >Ed Mills
> >
> >
> > >From: ME Games Ltd <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
> > >Reply-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: RE: [mepbmlist] The weight of stealth
> > >Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 02:01:43 +0100
> > >
> > >
> > > >My belief is that stealth adds a random number between one and the
> > >maximum
> > > >value to the agent rank. So, in your example, he isactually a 51 to
>75
> > > >agent. Now this is not from Mt. Sinai. Harley's obtaining of the
>Source
> > > >Codes is liable to change this and other issues without notice.
> > >
> > >This is plainly not the case. What evidence do you have to back this
>up
> > >Ed? This is pretty close to slander actually and I'm not happy with
>such
> > >comments. We'll chat to players before any changes are made.
> > >
> > >Clint
> > >
> >
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For now I'm not moderating it. Wondered what would happen. (The trip away was the reason for it).
32 C (90F) was a tad hot for me - but we had air conditioning on full in the car and after 5 days we even turned it off for 5 minutes at a time towards the end.... Spent this w/end showing Bill some Welsh places of interest. I'll bring you all upto date with that at a later time.
Clint (Valley's lad)
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Also there was that bit of spam that got by . . but perhaps that was when Clint was gone to Florida, the land of Sunshine? How'd ya like that heat, Gloomy Rain Boy?
Russ
Are you still moderating this List? This last thread sure got here quicker than items of, say, a month ago.
Ed Mills
Also there was that bit of spam that got by . . but perhaps that was when
Clint was gone to Florida, the land of Sunshine? How'd ya like that heat,
Gloomy Rain Boy?
Russ
Heat? What do you know about Heat? It's almost 74 here! I'm dying and
feel naked without my mittens on. All this global warming, and I'll have to
invent Summer Mittens for my fellow Canadians...make a fortune and retire to
Florida....
And the list was made Unmoderated when they left, as you said. But now that
we've all jumped on it, they're going to say "Oh right!" and bother to
moderate it again. Thanks a lot for that, whomever.
Wimps..... Here in Phoenix, we've not had a day under
105 in a week, nor under 100 for a month and a half.
We drive 2 hours up into the mountains to enjoy the
chilly 85-90.
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Wimps..... Here in Phoenix, we've not had a day under
105 in a week, nor under 100 for a month and a half.
We drive 2 hours up into the mountains to enjoy the
chilly 85-90.
Also there was that bit of spam that got by . . but perhaps that was when
Clint was gone to Florida, the land of Sunshine? How'd ya like that heat,
Gloomy Rain Boy?
Russ
Heat? What do you know about Heat? It's almost 74 here! I'm dying and
feel naked without my mittens on. All this global warming, and I'll have to
invent Summer Mittens for my fellow Canadians...make a fortune and retire to
Florida....
And the list was made Unmoderated when they left, as you said. But now that
we've all jumped on it, they're going to say "Oh right!" and bother to
moderate it again. Thanks a lot for that, whomever.
Wimps..... Here in Phoenix, we've not had a day under
105 in a week, nor under 100 for a month and a half.
We drive 2 hours up into the mountains to enjoy the
chilly 85-90.
Yep. I've got no complaints about Rio, but support Mike as someone eho visits NY often.... Humidity is a b****. Baking as u walk is not fun at all... It's worse than frying, which is the case in Darrel's Phoenix or my Rio for that matter....
Rodrigo Maia
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----- Original Message -----
From: Urzahil
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:35 PM
Subject: RE: [mepbmlist] Moderation
Yea... But it's a DRY heat.
Mike Mulka
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Darrell Shimel [mailto:threeedgedsword35@yahoo.com]
>
>Wimps..... Here in Phoenix, we've not had a day under
>105 in a week, nor under 100 for a month and a half.
>We drive 2 hours up into the mountains to enjoy the
>chilly 85-90.
I have a query on what many players will be doing soon and that is taking
Holidays.
I am away the weekend that I need to get my 3 Gunboat games (Which might not
be for much longer <grin>) am I allowed to get others to play that turn for
me ?
Just interested as I might have to work something out soon.
Brad, Global Warming is a joke. We're all just getting wimpy from too much air condition. It's like, MAYBE, one degree hotter on average than when I was 5. Whoopee. Yet it feels like 20 degrees hotter because I sit in air condition most of the day instead of laying in front of a fan with a cold, wet rag wiping my pot belly down like in the "good old days". Excuse the imagery.
<<And the list was made Unmoderated when they left, as you said. But now that
we've all jumped on it, they're going to say "Oh right!" and bother to
moderate it again. Thanks a lot for that, whomever.>>
LOL
-Russ
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----- Original Message -----
From: Brad Brunet
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] The weight of stealth
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.K.Floyd" <rkfloyd@charter.net
>
> Also there was that bit of spam that got by . . but perhaps that was when
Clint was gone to Florida, the land of Sunshine? How'd ya like that heat,
Gloomy Rain Boy?
>
> Russ
Heat? What do you know about Heat? It's almost 74 here! I'm dying and
feel naked without my mittens on. All this global warming, and I'll have to
invent Summer Mittens for my fellow Canadians...make a fortune and retire to
Florida....
And the list was made Unmoderated when they left, as you said. But now that
we've all jumped on it, they're going to say "Oh right!" and bother to
moderate it again. Thanks a lot for that, whomever.
Yes as long as they are not in the game nor talking to the others in the game nor have been in the game.
Clint
···
I have a query on what many players will be doing soon and that is taking
Holidays.
I am away the weekend that I need to get my 3 Gunboat games (Which might not
be for much longer <grin>) am I allowed to get others to play that turn for
me ?
Just interested as I might have to work something out soon.
Also there was that bit of spam that got by . . but perhaps that was
when
Clint was gone to Florida, the land of Sunshine? How'd ya like that
heat, Gloomy Rain Boy?
Russ
Heat? What do you know about Heat? It's almost 74 here! I'm dying
and feel naked without my mittens on. All this global warming, and
I'll have to invent Summer Mittens for my fellow Canadians...make a
fortune and retire to Florida....
And the list was made Unmoderated when they left, as you said. But now
that we've all jumped on it, they're going to say "Oh right!" and
bother to moderate it again. Thanks a lot for that, whomever.
Spent this w/end showing Bill some Welsh places of interest. I'll bring you all upto date with that at a later time.