I have been rereading Unfinished Tales lately. One of
the tales is about Turin, Son of Hurin.
I'm thinking Turin would be of the Northmen Nation if
in the 2950 scenario. Is that correct? If not what
would the nation be? or Is his a destroyed nation
within 2950 because of Easterling occupation over the
centuries?
THX - JCC
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Turin was a member of the House of Hador, in the First Age,
dwelling in Hithlum in the north of Beleriand. All that
country sank undersea at the end of the First Age (Lindon, the
northwest corner of the MEPBM map, is the southwest corner of
Beleriand and the only part that survived.)
Tony Z
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On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 01:52:26PM -0800, John Choules wrote:
I have been rereading Unfinished Tales lately. One of
the tales is about Turin, Son of Hurin.
I'm thinking Turin would be of the Northmen Nation if
in the 2950 scenario. Is that correct? If not what
would the nation be? or Is his a destroyed nation
within 2950 because of Easterling occupation over the
centuries?
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I have been rereading Unfinished Tales lately. One of
the tales is about Turin, Son of Hurin.
I'm thinking Turin would be of the Northmen Nation if
in the 2950 scenario. Is that correct? If not what
would the nation be? or Is his a destroyed nation
within 2950 because of Easterling occupation over the
centuries?
THX - JCC
Turin son of Hurin was a First Age hero of the Third House of the Edain, ie, he was a Dunedan. He died childless and the land he fought for was drowned before the Third Age (1650 & 2950 scenarios) began. The land Turin fought over was drowned and was totally different, geographically and time-wise, to the land fought for by the Northmen in 2950 (or 1650).
So sorry, but you can't link Turin with the Northmen. The 3rd Age Northmen had a bit of Dunedain blood but not much.
Check out: the Complete Guide to Middle-earth (Robert Foster)
the complete Tolkien comapnion (J E A Tyler)
the Silmarillion by the man himself: J R R Tolkien.
Hope that helps,
Richard.
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I must say I was thinking Dunedan to begin with but I
wasn't find any 2950 geographical references.
Additionally, the references to Easterling occupation
of Dor-Lomin (sp?) confused me about the region of
interest.
I have been rereading Unfinished Tales lately.
One of
the tales is about Turin, Son of Hurin.
I'm thinking Turin would be of the Northmen Nation
if
in the 2950 scenario. Is that correct? If not
what
would the nation be? or Is his a destroyed
nation
within 2950 because of Easterling occupation over
the
centuries?
THX - JCC
Turin son of Hurin was a First Age hero of the
Third House of the Edain, ie, he was a Dunedan. He
died childless and the land he fought for was
drowned before the Third Age (1650 & 2950 scenarios)
began. The land Turin fought over was drowned and
was totally different, geographically and time-wise,
to the land fought for by the Northmen in 2950 (or
1650).
So sorry, but you can't link Turin with the
Northmen. The 3rd Age Northmen had a bit of
Dunedain blood but not much.
Check out: the Complete Guide to Middle-earth
(Robert Foster)
the complete Tolkien comapnion (J E A
Tyler)
the Silmarillion by the man himself: J
R R Tolkien.
Hope that helps,
Richard.
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Before Beleriand sunk, all Men from East of the mountains,
were referred to as Easterlings, I believe. Without knowing
for sure, remnants of the mountains the comprised the Eastern
border of Beleriand are that line of mountain with the Dwarf
pops in Noldoville (grey? white? blue? aqua? peach? what
mountains are they again...?)
Brad
--- John Choules <chuck_john_61853@yahoo.com> wrote: > I must say I was
thinking Dunedan to begin with but I
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wasn't find any 2950 geographical references.
Additionally, the references to Easterling occupation
of Dor-Lomin (sp?) confused me about the region of
interest.
JCC
P.S. Thanks to all for the replies!
--- Richard DEVEREUX <rd@pagan-47.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I have been rereading Unfinished Tales lately.
> One of
> the tales is about Turin, Son of Hurin.
>
> I'm thinking Turin would be of the Northmen Nation
> if
> in the 2950 scenario. Is that correct? If not
> what
> would the nation be? or Is his a destroyed
> nation
> within 2950 because of Easterling occupation over
> the
> centuries?
>
> THX - JCC
> Turin son of Hurin was a First Age hero of the
> Third House of the Edain, ie, he was a Dunedan. He
> died childless and the land he fought for was
> drowned before the Third Age (1650 & 2950 scenarios)
> began. The land Turin fought over was drowned and
> was totally different, geographically and time-wise,
> to the land fought for by the Northmen in 2950 (or
> 1650).
>
> So sorry, but you can't link Turin with the
> Northmen. The 3rd Age Northmen had a bit of
> Dunedain blood but not much.
>
> Check out: the Complete Guide to Middle-earth
> (Robert Foster)
> the complete Tolkien comapnion (J E A
> Tyler)
> the Silmarillion by the man himself: J
> R R Tolkien.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Richard.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Ered Luin (Blue Mountains) formed the border between Beleriand and
Arnor. Of Beleriand only Forlindon and Harlindon (both part of the
Lindon region), and the top of Himling are left. The rest sunk under
the sea.
Before Beleriand sunk, all Men from East of the mountains,
were referred to as Easterlings, I believe. Without knowing
for sure, remnants of the mountains the comprised the Eastern
border of Beleriand are that line of mountain with the Dwarf
pops in Noldoville (grey? white? blue? aqua? peach? what
mountains are they again...?)
Before Beleriand sunk, all Men from East of the mountains,
were referred to as Easterlings, I believe. Without knowing
for sure, remnants of the mountains the comprised the Eastern
border of Beleriand are that line of mountain with the Dwarf
pops in Noldoville (grey? white? blue? aqua? peach? what
mountains are they again...?)
Brad
Correct - you are thinking of the Blue Mountains.
Richard
--- John Choules <chuck_john_61853@yahoo.com> wrote: > I must say I was
thinking Dunedan to begin with but I
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Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Turin and Tolkien?
> wasn't find any 2950 geographical references.
> Additionally, the references to Easterling occupation
> of Dor-Lomin (sp?) confused me about the region of
> interest.
>
> JCC
>
> P.S. Thanks to all for the replies!
>
>
> --- Richard DEVEREUX <rd@pagan-47.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > I have been rereading Unfinished Tales lately.
> > One of
> > the tales is about Turin, Son of Hurin.
> >
> > I'm thinking Turin would be of the Northmen Nation
> > if
> > in the 2950 scenario. Is that correct? If not
> > what
> > would the nation be? or Is his a destroyed
> > nation
> > within 2950 because of Easterling occupation over
> > the
> > centuries?
> >
> > THX - JCC
> > Turin son of Hurin was a First Age hero of the
> > Third House of the Edain, ie, he was a Dunedan. He
> > died childless and the land he fought for was
> > drowned before the Third Age (1650 & 2950 scenarios)
> > began. The land Turin fought over was drowned and
> > was totally different, geographically and time-wise,
> > to the land fought for by the Northmen in 2950 (or
> > 1650).
> >
> > So sorry, but you can't link Turin with the
> > Northmen. The 3rd Age Northmen had a bit of
> > Dunedain blood but not much.
> >
> > Check out: the Complete Guide to Middle-earth
> > (Robert Foster)
> > the complete Tolkien comapnion (J E A
> > Tyler)
> > the Silmarillion by the man himself: J
> > R R Tolkien.
> >
> > Hope that helps,
> >
> > Richard.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Before Beleriand sunk, all Men from East of the mountains,
were referred to as Easterlings, I believe. Without knowing
for sure, remnants of the mountains the comprised the Eastern
border of Beleriand are that line of mountain with the Dwarf
pops in Noldoville (grey? white? blue? aqua? peach? what
mountains are they again...?)
Brad
Correct - you are thinking of the Blue Mountains.
