I admit that suggesting the price increase was 28% rather than 15% as an
example of spin was unnecessarily malicious black propaganda. Perhaps that
was a measure of my immediate annoyance. That said, I stand by my point that
announcing turn fee increases in this 'spun' way was insulting.
Now it appears, despite the statements to the contrary in Bree, this is not
a price rise but in fact an 'admin charge'which you will be excluded from
paying if you use Automagic. This raises a few questions for me.
What has become of the price rises in announced in Bree?
What is the difference between an 'admin charge' and turn fees? Surely a
turn fee is an admin charge!
What extra administration are you carrying out as of the first of April that
requires an additional charge?
I and several other players will not be using automagic either through
choice or access problems. Given that those who recieve results by e-mail
already subidise postal players, why should we pay more than those who
choose to and can use automagic?
I am sure that many players will be delighted with Automagic once they are
used to it(or before). It's merits are obvious. That said it is not
appropriate, desired or available for everyone yet, you appear to be trying
to impose it by linking it to price rises or fees as opposed to selling it
on it's usefulness to players.
I think you have good arguements for raising prices. You are prepared to
invest much of the revenue in the game and service you provide and probably
earn less than most of your players. Indeed, Automagic is a good
advertisement of the kind of thing you do. But using it as an excuse to levy
charges upon one set of your players creates, in my mind at least, bad will
where there should be good. If you argued for a smaller price increase
across the board using automagic as an example of the bounty to be gained,
you would have had my support as oppossed to 'cussing.
I and several other players will not be using automagic either through
choice or access problems. Given that those who recieve results by e-mail
already subidise postal players, why should we pay more than those who
choose to and can use automagic?
What makes you think that players who play by e-mail subsidise postal
players ?
I know that in some instances it actually overall costs more to send out
results by e-mail than is does through the post.
Sure there will be exceptions but envelope, ink, paper and 1st class
postage add up to more than the 30 seconds of data transfer used in
the vast majority of e-mail cases.
Ask Clint, or other PBM GM's if you don't believe me.
Cheers
Chris Courtiour
--- In mepbmlist@y..., "Grey Squirrel" <greysquirrel@b...> wrote:
> I and several other players will not be using automagic either
through
> choice or access problems. Given that those who recieve results
by e-mail
> already subidise postal players, why should we pay more than
those who
> choose to and can use automagic?
What makes you think that players who play by e-mail subsidise
postal
players ?
I know that in some instances it actually overall costs more to
I know of at least one GM who finds that e-mail does infact actually cost
more to convert the files and then send them out
Thomas
···
Because they do.
Sure there will be exceptions but envelope, ink, paper and 1st class
postage add up to more than the 30 seconds of data transfer used in
the vast majority of e-mail cases.
Ask Clint, or other PBM GM's if you don't believe me.
I agree with chris. I use automagic and find it useful but would say a price
rise across the board is fairer than penalising those who don't wish to use
it.
Paul R
I admit that suggesting the price increase was 28% rather than 15% as an
example of spin was unnecessarily malicious black propaganda. Perhaps that
was a measure of my immediate annoyance. That said, I stand by my point that
announcing turn fee increases in this 'spun' way was insulting.
Now it appears, despite the statements to the contrary in Bree, this is not
a price rise but in fact an 'admin charge'which you will be excluded from
paying if you use Automagic. This raises a few questions for me.
What has become of the price rises in announced in Bree?
What is the difference between an 'admin charge' and turn fees? Surely a
turn fee is an admin charge!
What extra administration are you carrying out as of the first of April that
requires an additional charge?
I and several other players will not be using automagic either through
choice or access problems. Given that those who recieve results by e-mail
already subidise postal players, why should we pay more than those who
choose to and can use automagic?
I am sure that many players will be delighted with Automagic once they are
used to it(or before). It's merits are obvious. That said it is not
appropriate, desired or available for everyone yet, you appear to be trying
to impose it by linking it to price rises or fees as opposed to selling it
on it's usefulness to players.
I think you have good arguements for raising prices. You are prepared to
invest much of the revenue in the game and service you provide and probably
earn less than most of your players. Indeed, Automagic is a good
advertisement of the kind of thing you do. But using it as an excuse to levy
charges upon one set of your players creates, in my mind at least, bad will
where there should be good. If you argued for a smaller price increase
across the board using automagic as an example of the bounty to be gained,
you would have had my support as oppossed to 'cussing.
