Victory Points

It is not unusual for two nations, of the same allaince, to have the same number of victory points. The tie breaker goes to the nation with the lowest nation number. That is, Woodmen outrank Easterlings.

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From: "GearonSkywalker" <garyaswegan@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mepbmlist] Victory Points
Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:01:09 -0000

Anyone know how victory points are given out for ARMY and POPS?

Also how does a TIE (rare thou it may be) get scored?

Thanks,
Gary

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By TIE I meant in scoring one of the four categories that add up to
the total VP score...sorry I was not clear.

This is rare as how often does two nations have exactly 35,000 gold
or match up on exactly on CHAR skill points.

So say two nations tie for the most gold at exactly 50,000 in the
bank, how would they give 500 VPs??? possible solutions both get
500, one gets 500 the other 450 (based on lower nation number???)
both get 450??? Still not sure of any answer.

Thanks for the help.
Gary

--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Ovatha Easterling" <ovatha88@h...>
wrote:

It is not unusual for two nations, of the same allaince, to have

the same

number of victory points. The tie breaker goes to the nation with

the

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lowest nation number. That is, Woodmen outrank Easterlings.

>From: "GearonSkywalker" <garyaswegan@y...>
>Reply-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
>To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [mepbmlist] Victory Points
>Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:01:09 -0000
>
>Anyone know how victory points are given out for ARMY and POPS?
>
>Also how does a TIE (rare thou it may be) get scored?
>
>Thanks,
>Gary
>
>

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who gives a S...

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----- Original Message -----
  From: GearonSkywalker
  To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 6:55 PM
  Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Victory Points

  By TIE I meant in scoring one of the four categories that add up to
  the total VP score...sorry I was not clear.

  This is rare as how often does two nations have exactly 35,000 gold
  or match up on exactly on CHAR skill points.

  So say two nations tie for the most gold at exactly 50,000 in the
  bank, how would they give 500 VPs??? possible solutions both get
  500, one gets 500 the other 450 (based on lower nation number???)
  both get 450??? Still not sure of any answer.

  Thanks for the help.
  Gary

  --- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Ovatha Easterling" <ovatha88@h...>
  wrote:
  > It is not unusual for two nations, of the same allaince, to have
  the same
  > number of victory points. The tie breaker goes to the nation with
  the
  > lowest nation number. That is, Woodmen outrank Easterlings.
  >
  >
  > >From: "GearonSkywalker" <garyaswegan@y...>
  > >Reply-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
  > >To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
  > >Subject: [mepbmlist] Victory Points
  > >Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:01:09 -0000
  > >
  > >Anyone know how victory points are given out for ARMY and POPS?
  > >
  > >Also how does a TIE (rare thou it may be) get scored?
  > >
  > >Thanks,
  > >Gary
  > >
  > >
  >
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--- David Clemmensen <david_clemmensen@post.tele.dk> wrote:

who gives a S...

Trivial thread, but interesting, as many different aspects of
the program work along similar lines, no?

If you have a particular problem with the whole idea of Victory
Points itself, feel free to express your mature, rational, and
well thought out views. But otherwise, please retain control
over this kind of childish outburst.

Brad

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OK i thin that the only good thing aboute Vp is that it can some times be used to calculate the strength of the oposision.
this game is a team game. the team wins or loses not singel players. but ther was a werry long discosion on this subjegt some time agoe on this list so lets not bring it up agaien

david

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----- Original Message -----
  From: bgb
  To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Victory Points

  --- David Clemmensen <david_clemmensen@post.tele.dk> wrote:
  > who gives a S...

  Trivial thread, but interesting, as many different aspects of
  the program work along similar lines, no?

  If you have a particular problem with the whole idea of Victory
  Points itself, feel free to express your mature, rational, and
  well thought out views. But otherwise, please retain control
  over this kind of childish outburst.

  Brad

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Agreed totally. Thanks. Recall, the gentlemen who started
this thread mentioned that he was writing an article in Bree.
Let's see what its all about when it comes out...

Brad

--- David Clemmensen <david_clemmensen@post.tele.dk> wrote: > OK i thin
that the only good thing aboute Vp is that it can some

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times be used to calculate the strength of the oposision.
this game is a team game. the team wins or loses not singel players.
but ther was a werry long discosion on this subjegt some time agoe on
this list so lets not bring it up agaien

david
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: bgb
  To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Victory Points

  --- David Clemmensen <david_clemmensen@post.tele.dk> wrote:
  > who gives a S...

  Trivial thread, but interesting, as many different aspects of
  the program work along similar lines, no?

  If you have a particular problem with the whole idea of Victory
  Points itself, feel free to express your mature, rational, and
  well thought out views. But otherwise, please retain control
  over this kind of childish outburst.

  Brad

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If you play the game and take the time to read an article I am going
to publish soon...you will, I guarantee it!

--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "David Clemmensen"
<david_clemmensen@p...> wrote:

who gives a S...
  From: GearonSkywalker
  To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 6:55 PM
  Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Victory Points

  By TIE I meant in scoring one of the four categories that add up

to

  the total VP score...sorry I was not clear.

  This is rare as how often does two nations have exactly 35,000

gold

  or match up on exactly on CHAR skill points.

  So say two nations tie for the most gold at exactly 50,000 in the
  bank, how would they give 500 VPs??? possible solutions both get
  500, one gets 500 the other 450 (based on lower nation number???)
  both get 450??? Still not sure of any answer.

  Thanks for the help.
  Gary

  --- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Ovatha Easterling"

<ovatha88@h...>

  wrote:
  > It is not unusual for two nations, of the same allaince, to

have

  the same
  > number of victory points. The tie breaker goes to the nation

with

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  ----- Original Message -----
  the
  > lowest nation number. That is, Woodmen outrank Easterlings.
  >
  >
  > >From: "GearonSkywalker" <garyaswegan@y...>
  > >Reply-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
  > >To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
  > >Subject: [mepbmlist] Victory Points
  > >Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:01:09 -0000
  > >
  > >Anyone know how victory points are given out for ARMY and POPS?
  > >
  > >Also how does a TIE (rare thou it may be) get scored?
  > >
  > >Thanks,
  > >Gary
  > >
  > >
  >
  >

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Trivial thread...I think not.

Victory Points are VASTLY under-estimated in their worth. The light
will be shed soon, hopefully in Bree and on the MEPBM web site.

Gary

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--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, bgb <pbmnoot@y...> wrote:

--- David Clemmensen <david_clemmensen@p...> wrote:
> who gives a S...

Trivial thread, but interesting, as many different aspects of
the program work along similar lines, no?

If you have a particular problem with the whole idea of Victory
Points itself, feel free to express your mature, rational, and
well thought out views. But otherwise, please retain control
over this kind of childish outburst.

Brad

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It can always be used for this...the light is going on.

Sorry I missed the old discussion...still this is worth a new look
IMHO.

Gary

--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "David Clemmensen"
<david_clemmensen@p...> wrote:

OK i thin that the only good thing aboute Vp is that it can some

times be used to calculate the strength of the oposision.

this game is a team game. the team wins or loses not singel

players. but ther was a werry long discosion on this subjegt some
time agoe on this list so lets not bring it up agaien

···

david
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: bgb
  To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Re: Victory Points

  --- David Clemmensen <david_clemmensen@p...> wrote:
  > who gives a S...

  Trivial thread, but interesting, as many different aspects of
  the program work along similar lines, no?

  If you have a particular problem with the whole idea of Victory
  Points itself, feel free to express your mature, rational, and
  well thought out views. But otherwise, please retain control
  over this kind of childish outburst.

  Brad

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Victory Points are VASTLY under-estimated in their worth. The light
will be shed soon, hopefully in Bree and on the MEPBM web site.

I've known people in the past who used victory points to establish, roughly,
what kinds of troops and pop centers the enemy held. Especially useful if
you have a neutral in your pocket and you can get an idea of the overall
leaders in the game (as newts show VP leaders whether they be FP or DS). I
look at them some myself . . . if the three leaders on your side are under
1000 VP's, you're probably not doing too well (in my experience).

I'm betting this is what your article will touch on and I look forward to
it.

Russ

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----- Original Message -----
From: "GearonSkywalker" <garyaswegan@yahoo.com>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 3:32 PM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Victory Points

Trivial thread...I think not.

Victory Points are VASTLY under-estimated in their worth. The light
will be shed soon, hopefully in Bree and on the MEPBM web site.

Gary

--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, bgb <pbmnoot@y...> wrote:
> --- David Clemmensen <david_clemmensen@p...> wrote:
> > who gives a S...
>
> Trivial thread, but interesting, as many different aspects of
> the program work along similar lines, no?
>
> If you have a particular problem with the whole idea of Victory
> Points itself, feel free to express your mature, rational, and
> well thought out views. But otherwise, please retain control
> over this kind of childish outburst.
>
> Brad
>
>
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Thanks Russ,

You have a pretty good bet going. Ever play any FA games, where
there are NO Newts? VPs are very black and white then.

I should have the article to ME next week if things go well and I get
time in front of the computer.

Clint,

Where should perspective articles for Bree or the web site be sent?

Do you know an estimated turn around time from the time you receive
it until it goes public???

Thanks,
Gary

> Victory Points are VASTLY under-estimated in their worth. The

light

> will be shed soon, hopefully in Bree and on the MEPBM web site.

I've known people in the past who used victory points to establish,

roughly,

what kinds of troops and pop centers the enemy held. Especially

useful if

you have a neutral in your pocket and you can get an idea of the

overall

leaders in the game (as newts show VP leaders whether they be FP or

DS). I

look at them some myself . . . if the three leaders on your side

are under

1000 VP's, you're probably not doing too well (in my experience).

I'm betting this is what your article will touch on and I look

forward to

it.

Russ

From: "GearonSkywalker" <garyaswegan@y...>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 3:32 PM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Victory Points

> Trivial thread...I think not.
>
> Victory Points are VASTLY under-estimated in their worth. The

light

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--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "R.K.Floyd" <rkfloyd@c...> wrote:

----- Original Message -----
> will be shed soon, hopefully in Bree and on the MEPBM web site.
>
> Gary
>
> --- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, bgb <pbmnoot@y...> wrote:
> > --- David Clemmensen <david_clemmensen@p...> wrote:
> > > who gives a S...
> >
> > Trivial thread, but interesting, as many different aspects of
> > the program work along similar lines, no?
> >
> > If you have a particular problem with the whole idea of Victory
> > Points itself, feel free to express your mature, rational, and
> > well thought out views. But otherwise, please retain control
> > over this kind of childish outburst.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
>

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Where should perspective articles for Bree or the web site be sent?

*** To the me address or straight to Colin (details in Bree).

Do you know an estimated turn around time from the time you receive
it until it goes public???

*** Nope. Simple answer - when we get enough materials we publish - I think we're pretty close to the next issue.

Clint