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Richard John Devereux wrote:

I hope you are joking. If you believe everything the Yanks

put in films

your view of history will be seriously distorted....

I don't usually agree with Richard on anything political, but I have to
agree with every sentiment hear. I do wonder about the old cliche of
history being written by the winners though. The danger in all this of
course is that there will come to be a divide between the popular view
of history and the academic facts.

its the rewriting of history gets up my nose. In oz we are still fighting if
the koories who were around when the english landed were noble savages, or
just savages (noble savages are slowly coming out on top). Let alone if the
english colonised or invaded (invaded by a clear mile).

Speaking of rewriting history, its also a shame that d-day can pass without
a single mention of it on the TV or papers. I can understand TV not showing
anything (since d-day was a long time ago), but I would have expected the
papers to fill up a column or two with some news about d-day gatherings. It
was rather an important event in the western allies winning of WWII.

Crazy world.

crazy people.
m

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Colin.

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#2

Oddly enough D-Day has been covered here in the US of A
including the events at Normandy... (not as much as NFL star Ray
Lewis's trial, but still substantial coverage, the Dodger's baseball
anouncer Vin Scully mentioned it about 10 times during the baseball
game even refrencing the letter Ike wrote taking full responsibility
in the event of a failure)

Some even mention that we weren't the only ones there...

I wonder how the French & Germans covered it.

I also wonder if the European media is not covering it on purpose -
no sense in refreshing national memories in the age of Unification.

G

>
>Richard John Devereux wrote:
>
>> I hope you are joking. If you believe everything the Yanks
>put in films
>> your view of history will be seriously distorted....
>
>I don't usually agree with Richard on anything political, but I

have to

>agree with every sentiment hear. I do wonder about the old cliche

of

>history being written by the winners though. The danger in all

this of

>course is that there will come to be a divide between the popular

view

>of history and the academic facts.

its the rewriting of history gets up my nose. In oz we are still

fighting if

the koories who were around when the english landed were noble

savages, or

just savages (noble savages are slowly coming out on top). Let

alone if the

english colonised or invaded (invaded by a clear mile).

Speaking of rewriting history, its also a shame that d-day can pass

without

a single mention of it on the TV or papers. I can understand TV not

showing

anything (since d-day was a long time ago), but I would have

expected the

papers to fill up a column or two with some news about d-day

gatherings. It

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was rather an important event in the western allies winning of WWII.

>
>Crazy world.

crazy people.
m

>
>Colin.
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Michael Peters wrote:

Speaking of rewriting history, its also a shame that d-day can pass without
a single mention of it on the TV or papers. I can understand TV not showing
anything (since d-day was a long time ago), but I would have expected the
papers to fill up a column or two with some news about d-day gatherings. It
was rather an important event in the western allies winning of WWII.

French TV covered it. But as they pointed out, this is the last year that
any official activity will occur due to the declining numbers of survivors
of the event. Ditto Dunkirk. (I bet they'll change their minds...)

Gavin

#4

>I don't usually agree with Richard on anything political,

RD: Pardon me, Colin, I don't recall ever talking politics with you?

but I have to

>agree with every sentiment hear. I do wonder about the old cliche of
>history being written by the winners though. The danger in all this of
>course is that there will come to be a divide between the popular view
>of history and the academic facts.

its the rewriting of history gets up my nose. In oz we are still fighting

if

the koories who were around when the english landed were noble savages, or
just savages (noble savages are slowly coming out on top). Let alone if

the

english colonised or invaded (invaded by a clear mile).

Speaking of rewriting history, its also a shame that d-day can pass

without

a single mention of it on the TV or papers. I can understand TV not

showing

anything (since d-day was a long time ago), but I would have expected the
papers to fill up a column or two with some news about d-day gatherings.

It

was rather an important event in the western allies winning of WWII.

>
>Crazy world.

crazy people.
m

>
>Colin.
>

RD: It's even more remarkable when you consider that we Brits annually
celebrate the evacuation from Dunkirk, a defeat by any yardstick. I know it
was a 'deliverance' that we got about 300,000 allied troops back to Britain
to fight another day, but Churchill had it right when he forbade troops to
wear 'Dunkirk' as a battle honour: 'Wars are not won by evacuations,' he
said.

The only WWII victory I can think of, which we celebrate annually, is Battle
of Britain Day, a just tribute to the 'Few.' No El Alamein, no Battle of
the Atlantic, no sinking of the Bismark and as Michael says, no D-Day!
There seems to be something in the British psyche that celebrates glorious
defeat but is embarrassed by victory.

Richard.