Okay it looks like MSN has black-listed our account. Emails with
attachments are being blocked. Emails WITHOUT attachments are bouncing as
well.
They won't listen to us as we're not customers.
Options are:
1) Use a friends email address permanently
2) Change providers - ie get a new email address.
3) our preferred option is that you contact them and ask that we be removed
from the black-list and allow our emails to get through from.
(please make sure that you give them the correct email address).
Our apologies for any inconvenience this has caused you. Unfortunately it's
out of our control and we need to rely on your good will to sort the problem
out. If you need further assistance then get back to us (you can send
emails to us fine - that's not a problem). If you are presently missing any
turns then please get back to us and we can get them forwarded to a friends
account and then them to you.
Once again apologies for what is out of our control.
UK: Office A, 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP, UK
USA: PO Box 280, Medford, OR 97501-0019, USA
Phone times: 10am-6.30pm UK time (BST - British Standard Time); 5am-1.30pm
(EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359/ (029 2062-5665 can be used if the other is engaged) [Dial
Code: 011 44 2920. for US players]
UK Fax: 029 2062 5532
US: Fax: 1-503-296-2325
US alternate: Phone & Fax: 541-772-7872 (10-5pm weekdays) (fax24hrs)
****************************************************************
Okay it looks like MSN has black-listed our account. Emails with
attachments are being blocked. Emails WITHOUT attachments are bouncing as
well.
They won't listen to us as we're not customers.
Options are:
1) Use a friends email address permanently
2) Change providers - ie get a new email address.
3) our preferred option is that you contact them and ask that we be removed
from the black-list and allow our emails to get through from.
me@M...
(please make sure that you give them the correct email address).
Our apologies for any inconvenience this has caused you. Unfortunately it's
out of our control and we need to rely on your good will to sort the problem
out. If you need further assistance then get back to us (you can send
emails to us fine - that's not a problem). If you are presently missing any
turns then please get back to us and we can get them forwarded to a friends
account and then them to you.
Once again apologies for what is out of our control.
Thanks
Clint
****************************************************************
Middle Earth Games
Mailto: me@M...
Website: www.MiddleEarthGames.com
UK: Office A, 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP, UK
USA: PO Box 280, Medford, OR 97501-0019, USA
Phone times: 10am-6.30pm UK time (BST - British Standard Time); 5am-1.30pm
(EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359/ (029 2062-5665 can be used if the other is engaged) [Dial
Code: 011 44 2920. for US players]
UK Fax: 029 2062 5532
US: Fax: 1-503-296-2325
US alternate: Phone & Fax: 541-772-7872 (10-5pm weekdays) (fax24hrs)
****************************************************************
We might have done something wrong, but I can't see it. As MSN aren't replying to our emails we don't know!
Clint
···
I've never heard of a company that was allowed to interfere with the lawful use of its clients email....
I know I'd be cancelling MSN if it were me....
My penny and a quarter.
Peace,
Rick Lemons
Corsairs 236
--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Middle Earth Games" <me@M...> wrote:
> Dear Players
>
> Okay it looks like MSN has black-listed our account. Emails with
> attachments are being blocked. Emails WITHOUT attachments are bouncing as
> well.
>
> They won't listen to us as we're not customers.
>
> Options are:
> 1) Use a friends email address permanently
> 2) Change providers - ie get a new email address.
> 3) our preferred option is that you contact them and ask that we be removed
> from the black-list and allow our emails to get through from.
>
> me@M...
>
> (please make sure that you give them the correct email address).
>
> Our apologies for any inconvenience this has caused you. Unfortunately it's
> out of our control and we need to rely on your good will to sort the problem
> out. If you need further assistance then get back to us (you can send
> emails to us fine - that's not a problem). If you are presently missing any
> turns then please get back to us and we can get them forwarded to a friends
> account and then them to you.
>
> Once again apologies for what is out of our control.
>
> Thanks
> Clint
> ****************************************************************
> Middle Earth Games
> Mailto: me@M...
> Website: www.MiddleEarthGames.com
>
> UK: Office A, 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP, UK
> USA: PO Box 280, Medford, OR 97501-0019, USA
>
> Phone times: 10am-6.30pm UK time (BST - British Standard Time); 5am-1.30pm
> (EST)
> UK: 029 2091 3359/ (029 2062-5665 can be used if the other is engaged) [Dial
> Code: 011 44 2920. for US players]
> UK Fax: 029 2062 5532
> US: Fax: 1-503-296-2325
> US alternate: Phone & Fax: 541-772-7872 (10-5pm weekdays) (fax24hrs)
> ****************************************************************
UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: PO Box 280, Medford, Oregon OR97501-0019 USA
Phone Times: 10am-6.30pm UK Time (BST);5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main is engaged)
(Dial 011 44 2920 913359 if US)
UK Fax: 029 2062 5532 24 hours
US Fax: 1-503-296-2325
US Alternate: Phone and Fax: 541 772 7872 10-5pm PST Weekdays, Fax 24hrs
****************************************************************
Ok, Clint try again, I talked to them, and they said that even though I had
you on the "safe" list that they still had you on the "junk" list, so now he
has you on a "safe" list for my account, all others with MSN would have to
call MSN to clear you off the "junk" list for their accounts.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Middle Earth Games" <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
To: "mepbmlist" <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:50 AM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Whitelisting our account
Dear Players
Okay it looks like MSN has black-listed our account. Emails with
attachments are being blocked. Emails WITHOUT attachments are bouncing as
well.
They won't listen to us as we're not customers.
Options are:
1) Use a friends email address permanently
2) Change providers - ie get a new email address.
3) our preferred option is that you contact them and ask that we be
removed
from the black-list and allow our emails to get through from.
UK: Office A, 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP, UK
USA: PO Box 280, Medford, OR 97501-0019, USA
Phone times: 10am-6.30pm UK time (BST - British Standard Time); 5am-1.30pm
(EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359/ (029 2062-5665 can be used if the other is engaged)
[Dial
Code: 011 44 2920. for US players]
UK Fax: 029 2062 5532
US: Fax: 1-503-296-2325
US alternate: Phone & Fax: 541-772-7872 (10-5pm weekdays) (fax24hrs)
****************************************************************
Ok, Clint try again, I talked to them, and they said that even though I had
you on the "safe" list that they still had you on the "junk" list, so now he
has you on a "safe" list for my account, all others with MSN would have to
call MSN to clear you off the "junk" list for their accounts.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Middle Earth Games" <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
To: "mepbmlist" <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:50 AM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Whitelisting our account
> Dear Players
>
> Okay it looks like MSN has black-listed our account. Emails with
> attachments are being blocked. Emails WITHOUT attachments are bouncing as
> well.
>
> They won't listen to us as we're not customers.
>
> Options are:
> 1) Use a friends email address permanently
> 2) Change providers - ie get a new email address.
> 3) our preferred option is that you contact them and ask that we be
removed
> from the black-list and allow our emails to get through from.
>
> me@MiddleEarthGames.com
>
> (please make sure that you give them the correct email address).
>
> Our apologies for any inconvenience this has caused you. Unfortunately
it's
> out of our control and we need to rely on your good will to sort the
problem
> out. If you need further assistance then get back to us (you can send
> emails to us fine - that's not a problem). If you are presently missing
any
> turns then please get back to us and we can get them forwarded to a
friends
> account and then them to you.
>
> Once again apologies for what is out of our control.
>
> Thanks
> Clint
> ****************************************************************
> Middle Earth Games
> Mailto: me@MiddleEarthGames.com
> Website: www.MiddleEarthGames.com
>
> UK: Office A, 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP, UK
> USA: PO Box 280, Medford, OR 97501-0019, USA
>
> Phone times: 10am-6.30pm UK time (BST - British Standard Time); 5am-1.30pm
> (EST)
> UK: 029 2091 3359/ (029 2062-5665 can be used if the other is engaged)
[Dial
> Code: 011 44 2920. for US players]
> UK Fax: 029 2062 5532
> US: Fax: 1-503-296-2325
> US alternate: Phone & Fax: 541-772-7872 (10-5pm weekdays) (fax24hrs)
> ****************************************************************
>
> Middle Earth PBM - hit reply to send to everyone
> To Unsubscribe: http://www.yahoogroups.com
> Website: http://www.MiddleEarthGames.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: PO Box 280, Medford, Oregon OR97501-0019 USA
Phone Times: 10am-6.30pm UK Time (BST);5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main is engaged)
(Dial 011 44 2920 913359 if US)
UK Fax: 029 2062 5532 24 hours
US Fax: 1-503-296-2325
US Alternate: Phone and Fax: 541 772 7872 10-5pm PST Weekdays, Fax 24hrs
****************************************************************
Hey, I got $500 off my pc for taking a 3yr contract with them, so I gotta
wait till it's up, LOL
pm
···
----- Original Message -----
From: <mepbm236@yahoo.com>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:39 AM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Re: Whitelisting our account
I've never heard of a company that was allowed to interfere with the
lawful use of its clients email....
I know I'd be cancelling MSN if it were me....
My penny and a quarter.
Peace,
Rick Lemons
Corsairs 236
--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Middle Earth Games" <me@M...> wrote:
> Dear Players
>
> Okay it looks like MSN has black-listed our account. Emails with
> attachments are being blocked. Emails WITHOUT attachments are bouncing
as
> well.
>
> They won't listen to us as we're not customers.
>
> Options are:
> 1) Use a friends email address permanently
> 2) Change providers - ie get a new email address.
> 3) our preferred option is that you contact them and ask that we be
removed
> from the black-list and allow our emails to get through from.
>
> me@M...
>
> (please make sure that you give them the correct email address).
>
> Our apologies for any inconvenience this has caused you. Unfortunately
it's
> out of our control and we need to rely on your good will to sort the
problem
> out. If you need further assistance then get back to us (you can send
> emails to us fine - that's not a problem). If you are presently missing
any
> turns then please get back to us and we can get them forwarded to a
friends
> account and then them to you.
>
> Once again apologies for what is out of our control.
>
> Thanks
> Clint
> ****************************************************************
> Middle Earth Games
> Mailto: me@M...
> Website: www.MiddleEarthGames.com
>
> UK: Office A, 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP, UK
> USA: PO Box 280, Medford, OR 97501-0019, USA
>
> Phone times: 10am-6.30pm UK time (BST - British Standard Time);
5am-1.30pm
> (EST)
> UK: 029 2091 3359/ (029 2062-5665 can be used if the other is engaged)
[Dial
> Code: 011 44 2920. for US players]
> UK Fax: 029 2062 5532
> US: Fax: 1-503-296-2325
> US alternate: Phone & Fax: 541-772-7872 (10-5pm weekdays) (fax24hrs)
> ****************************************************************
----- Original Message -----
From: "Middle Earth PBM Games" <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Whitelisting our account
Excellent Paul - I'll test that now.
Get back to me if it works...
Clint
and a big kiss....
At 16:43 20/01/03, you wrote:
>Ok, Clint try again, I talked to them, and they said that even though I
had
>you on the "safe" list that they still had you on the "junk" list, so now
he
>has you on a "safe" list for my account, all others with MSN would have
to
>call MSN to clear you off the "junk" list for their accounts.
>
>pm, 109240
>
>pmoreno407@msn.com
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Middle Earth Games" <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
>To: "mepbmlist" <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:50 AM
>Subject: [mepbmlist] Whitelisting our account
>
>
> > Dear Players
> >
> > Okay it looks like MSN has black-listed our account. Emails with
> > attachments are being blocked. Emails WITHOUT attachments are
bouncing as
> > well.
> >
> > They won't listen to us as we're not customers.
> >
> > Options are:
> > 1) Use a friends email address permanently
> > 2) Change providers - ie get a new email address.
> > 3) our preferred option is that you contact them and ask that we be
>removed
> > from the black-list and allow our emails to get through from.
> >
> > me@MiddleEarthGames.com
> >
> > (please make sure that you give them the correct email address).
> >
> > Our apologies for any inconvenience this has caused you.
Unfortunately
>it's
> > out of our control and we need to rely on your good will to sort the
>problem
> > out. If you need further assistance then get back to us (you can send
> > emails to us fine - that's not a problem). If you are presently
missing
>any
> > turns then please get back to us and we can get them forwarded to a
>friends
> > account and then them to you.
> >
> > Once again apologies for what is out of our control.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Clint
> > ****************************************************************
> > Middle Earth Games
> > Mailto: me@MiddleEarthGames.com
> > Website: www.MiddleEarthGames.com
> >
> > UK: Office A, 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP, UK
> > USA: PO Box 280, Medford, OR 97501-0019, USA
> >
> > Phone times: 10am-6.30pm UK time (BST - British Standard Time);
5am-1.30pm
> > (EST)
> > UK: 029 2091 3359/ (029 2062-5665 can be used if the other is engaged)
>[Dial
> > Code: 011 44 2920. for US players]
> > UK Fax: 029 2062 5532
> > US: Fax: 1-503-296-2325
> > US alternate: Phone & Fax: 541-772-7872 (10-5pm weekdays) (fax24hrs)
> > ****************************************************************
> >
> >
> > Middle Earth PBM - hit reply to send to everyone
> > To Unsubscribe: http://www.yahoogroups.com
> > Website: http://www.MiddleEarthGames.com
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: PO Box 280, Medford, Oregon OR97501-0019 USA
Phone Times: 10am-6.30pm UK Time (BST);5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main is engaged)
(Dial 011 44 2920 913359 if US)
UK Fax: 029 2062 5532 24 hours
US Fax: 1-503-296-2325
US Alternate: Phone and Fax: 541 772 7872 10-5pm PST Weekdays, Fax 24hrs
****************************************************************
Alas, it's an RBL thing. RBL = Realtime Blackhole
List (or Realtime Blocking List, depending on whose
vocabulary you prefer). They ALL do it. Some do it
better than others.
It is what service providers like MSN use to manage
spam. Takes a lot of CPU cycles and a great deal of
deep thinking to recognize SPAM and, truth be known,
they still get fooled a lot. To make things easier
ISPs will just toss out whole domains (such as middleearthgames.com) by putting them on the RBL and
refusing to receive mail from them. Dunno if MSN
subscribes to an RBL service but there are a number of
them out there. It is rumored that anywhere from 35%
to 80% of mail going to MSN is spam so they have
legitimate problems they are trying to manage.
Hmmm. Maybe spam is an elven way of holding Sauron
(er, Bill Gates) at bay.....?
I've never heard of a company that was allowed to
interfere with the lawful use of its clients
email....
I know I'd be cancelling MSN if it were me....
My penny and a quarter.
Peace,
Rick Lemons
Corsairs 236
--- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Middle Earth
Games" <me@M...> wrote:
> Dear Players
>
> Okay it looks like MSN has black-listed our
account. Emails with
> attachments are being blocked. Emails WITHOUT
attachments are bouncing as
> well.
>
> They won't listen to us as we're not customers.
>
> Options are:
> 1) Use a friends email address permanently
> 2) Change providers - ie get a new email address.
> 3) our preferred option is that you contact them
and ask that we be removed
> from the black-list and allow our emails to get
through from.
>
> me@M...
>
> (please make sure that you give them the correct
email address).
>
> Our apologies for any inconvenience this has
caused you. Unfortunately it's
> out of our control and we need to rely on your
good will to sort the problem
> out. If you need further assistance then get back
to us (you can send
> emails to us fine - that's not a problem). If you
are presently missing any
> turns then please get back to us and we can get
them forwarded to a friends
> account and then them to you.
>
> Once again apologies for what is out of our
control.
>
> Thanks
> Clint
>
> Middle Earth Games
> Mailto: me@M...
> Website: www.MiddleEarthGames.com
>
> UK: Office A, 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP,
UK
> USA: PO Box 280, Medford, OR 97501-0019, USA
>
> Phone times: 10am-6.30pm UK time (BST - British
Standard Time); 5am-1.30pm
> (EST)
> UK: 029 2091 3359/ (029 2062-5665 can be used if
the other is engaged) [Dial
> Code: 011 44 2920. for US players]
> UK Fax: 029 2062 5532
> US: Fax: 1-503-296-2325
> US alternate: Phone & Fax: 541-772-7872 (10-5pm
weekdays) (fax24hrs)
>
Readers might enjoy www.thespamletters.com which I found yesterday via Yahoo Picks of the Year 2002. It's a chap writing very witty put-down replies to all the spam he receives. Had me chortling.
Alas, it's an RBL thing. RBL = Realtime Blackhole
List (or Realtime Blocking List, depending on whose
vocabulary you prefer). They ALL do it. Some do it
better than others.
It is what service providers like MSN use to manage
spam. Takes a lot of CPU cycles and a great deal of
deep thinking to recognize SPAM and, truth be known,
they still get fooled a lot. To make things easier
ISPs will just toss out whole domains (such as middleearthgames.com) by putting them on the RBL and
refusing to receive mail from them. Dunno if MSN
subscribes to an RBL service but there are a number of
them out there. It is rumored that anywhere from 35%
to 80% of mail going to MSN is spam so they have
legitimate problems they are trying to manage.
Hmmm. Maybe spam is an elven way of holding Sauron
(er, Bill Gates) at bay.....?
Joseph
--- "mepbm236 <mepbm236@yahoo.com>"
<mepbm236@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I've never heard of a company that was allowed to
> interfere with the lawful use of its clients
> email....
>
> I know I'd be cancelling MSN if it were me....
>
> My penny and a quarter.
>
> Peace,
> Rick Lemons
> Corsairs 236
>
> --- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Middle Earth
> Games" <me@M...> wrote:
> > Dear Players
> >
> > Okay it looks like MSN has black-listed our
> account. Emails with
> > attachments are being blocked. Emails WITHOUT
> attachments are bouncing as
> > well.
> >
> > They won't listen to us as we're not customers.
> >
> > Options are:
> > 1) Use a friends email address permanently
> > 2) Change providers - ie get a new email address.
> > 3) our preferred option is that you contact them
> and ask that we be removed
> > from the black-list and allow our emails to get
> through from.
> >
> > me@M...
> >
> > (please make sure that you give them the correct
> email address).
> >
> > Our apologies for any inconvenience this has
> caused you. Unfortunately it's
> > out of our control and we need to rely on your
> good will to sort the problem
> > out. If you need further assistance then get back
> to us (you can send
> > emails to us fine - that's not a problem). If you
> are presently missing any
> > turns then please get back to us and we can get
> them forwarded to a friends
> > account and then them to you.
> >
> > Once again apologies for what is out of our
> control.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Clint
> >
>
****************************************************************
> > Middle Earth Games
> > Mailto: me@M...
> > Website: www.MiddleEarthGames.com
> >
> > UK: Office A, 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP,
> UK
> > USA: PO Box 280, Medford, OR 97501-0019, USA
> >
> > Phone times: 10am-6.30pm UK time (BST - British
> Standard Time); 5am-1.30pm
> > (EST)
> > UK: 029 2091 3359/ (029 2062-5665 can be used if
> the other is engaged) [Dial
> > Code: 011 44 2920. for US players]
> > UK Fax: 029 2062 5532
> > US: Fax: 1-503-296-2325
> > US alternate: Phone & Fax: 541-772-7872 (10-5pm
> weekdays) (fax24hrs)
> >
>
****************************************************************
>
> Middle Earth PBM - hit reply to send to everyone
> To Unsubscribe: http://www.yahoogroups.com
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>
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UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: PO Box 280, Medford, Oregon OR97501-0019 USA
Phone Times: 10am-6.30pm UK Time (BST);5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main is engaged)
(Dial 011 44 2920 913359 if US)
UK Fax: 029 2062 5532 24 hours
US Fax: 1-503-296-2325
US Alternate: Phone and Fax: 541 772 7872 10-5pm PST Weekdays, Fax 24hrs
****************************************************************
Unless you hear from non-MSN customers who aren't getting your mail, there's little chance your domain has been listed on any of the spam blackholes. Too many different ISPs use them.
I think the previous working theory is correct: MSN has blacklisted your domain, and MS customers are going to have to ask MSN to allow your mail through for them.
jason
Middle Earth PBM Games wrote:
···
Anything that we can do?
Clint
At 08:04 22/01/03, you wrote:
Alas, it's an RBL thing. RBL = Realtime Blackhole
List (or Realtime Blocking List, depending on whose
vocabulary you prefer). They ALL do it. Some do it
better than others.
Working on this. We've only got 5 players with MSN accounts at present but prefer that we can email them all!
Clint
···
Unless you hear from non-MSN customers who aren't getting your mail,
there's little chance your domain has been listed on any of the spam
blackholes. Too many different ISPs use them.
I think the previous working theory is correct: MSN has blacklisted your
domain, and MS customers are going to have to ask MSN to allow your mail
through for them.
jason
Middle Earth PBM Games wrote:
> Anything that we can do?
>
> Clint
>
> At 08:04 22/01/03, you wrote:
>
>>Alas, it's an RBL thing. RBL = Realtime Blackhole
>>List (or Realtime Blocking List, depending on whose
>>vocabulary you prefer). They ALL do it. Some do it
>>better than others.
UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: PO Box 280, Medford, Oregon OR97501-0019 USA
Phone Times: 10am-6.30pm UK Time (BST);5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main is engaged)
(Dial 011 44 2920 913359 if US)
UK Fax: 029 2062 5532 24 hours
US Fax: 1-503-296-2325
US Alternate: Phone and Fax: 541 772 7872 10-5pm PST Weekdays, Fax 24hrs
****************************************************************
There's been some cracking articles in Bree recently. We're hoping to bring another out soon. We've got plenty of game reports, but as per usual articles are in short supply. Stories are fine as well, or anything that you feel would be of interest to our players.
I have confirmed that MSN does subscribe to an RBL
service so Jason's observation is likely correct (that
if only MSN is bouncing your e-mail then you are
probably only on MSN's local RBL).
Unhappily, most ISPs require the recipients to
actively lobby for the removal of senders from RBLs.
A suggestion -- albeit a tedious one -- perhaps you
should consider a Hotmail account (assuming they still
have the free ones) to use as an alternative pathway
to the MSN folks? A decent enough short-term
solution, anyway.
At 08:04 22/01/03, you wrote:
>Alas, it's an RBL thing. RBL = Realtime Blackhole
>List (or Realtime Blocking List, depending on whose
>vocabulary you prefer). They ALL do it. Some do
it
>better than others.
>
>It is what service providers like MSN use to manage
>spam. Takes a lot of CPU cycles and a great deal
of
>deep thinking to recognize SPAM and, truth be
known,
>they still get fooled a lot. To make things easier
>ISPs will just toss out whole domains (such as
>middleearthgames.com) by putting them on the RBL
and
>refusing to receive mail from them. Dunno if MSN
>subscribes to an RBL service but there are a number
of
>them out there. It is rumored that anywhere from
35%
>to 80% of mail going to MSN is spam so they have
>legitimate problems they are trying to manage.
>
>Hmmm. Maybe spam is an elven way of holding Sauron
>(er, Bill Gates) at bay.....?
>
>Joseph
>
>
>--- "mepbm236 <mepbm236@yahoo.com>"
><mepbm236@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I've never heard of a company that was allowed
to
> > interfere with the lawful use of its clients
> > email....
> >
> > I know I'd be cancelling MSN if it were me....
> >
> > My penny and a quarter.
> >
> > Peace,
> > Rick Lemons
> > Corsairs 236
> >
> > --- In mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com, "Middle Earth
> > Games" <me@M...> wrote:
> > > Dear Players
> > >
> > > Okay it looks like MSN has black-listed our
> > account. Emails with
> > > attachments are being blocked. Emails WITHOUT
> > attachments are bouncing as
> > > well.
> > >
> > > They won't listen to us as we're not
customers.
> > >
> > > Options are:
> > > 1) Use a friends email address permanently
> > > 2) Change providers - ie get a new email
address.
> > > 3) our preferred option is that you contact
them
> > and ask that we be removed
> > > from the black-list and allow our emails to
get
> > through from.
> > >
> > > me@M...
> > >
> > > (please make sure that you give them the
correct
> > email address).
> > >
> > > Our apologies for any inconvenience this has
> > caused you. Unfortunately it's
> > > out of our control and we need to rely on your
> > good will to sort the problem
> > > out. If you need further assistance then get
back
> > to us (you can send
> > > emails to us fine - that's not a problem). If
you
> > are presently missing any
> > > turns then please get back to us and we can
get
> > them forwarded to a friends
> > > account and then them to you.
> > >
> > > Once again apologies for what is out of our
> > control.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Clint
> > >
> >
****************************************************************
> > > Middle Earth Games
> > > Mailto: me@M...
> > > Website: www.MiddleEarthGames.com
> > >
> > > UK: Office A, 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14
3BP,
> > UK
> > > USA: PO Box 280, Medford, OR 97501-0019, USA
> > >
> > > Phone times: 10am-6.30pm UK time (BST -
British
> > Standard Time); 5am-1.30pm
> > > (EST)
> > > UK: 029 2091 3359/ (029 2062-5665 can be used
if
> > the other is engaged) [Dial
> > > Code: 011 44 2920. for US players]
> > > UK Fax: 029 2062 5532
> > > US: Fax: 1-503-296-2325
> > > US alternate: Phone & Fax: 541-772-7872
(10-5pm
> > weekdays) (fax24hrs)
> > >
> >
UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: PO Box 280, Medford, Oregon OR97501-0019 USA
Phone Times: 10am-6.30pm UK Time (BST);5am-1.30
(EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if
main is engaged)
(Dial 011 44 2920 913359 if US)
UK Fax: 029 2062 5532 24 hours
US Fax: 1-503-296-2325
US Alternate: Phone and Fax: 541 772 7872 10-5pm PST
Weekdays, Fax 24hrs
Can we get some MSN account users to test email us please - it's working with one player and I want to know if it's working with the rest.
Thanks
Clint
···
At 14:50 20/01/03, you wrote:
Dear Players
Okay it looks like MSN has black-listed our account. Emails with
attachments are being blocked. Emails WITHOUT attachments are bouncing as
well.
They won't listen to us as we're not customers.
Options are:
1) Use a friends email address permanently
2) Change providers - ie get a new email address.
3) our preferred option is that you contact them and ask that we be removed
from the black-list and allow our emails to get through from.
(please make sure that you give them the correct email address).
Our apologies for any inconvenience this has caused you. Unfortunately it's
out of our control and we need to rely on your good will to sort the problem
out. If you need further assistance then get back to us (you can send
emails to us fine - that's not a problem). If you are presently missing any
turns then please get back to us and we can get them forwarded to a friends
account and then them to you.
Once again apologies for what is out of our control.
UK: Office A, 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP, UK
USA: PO Box 280, Medford, OR 97501-0019, USA
Phone times: 10am-6.30pm UK time (BST - British Standard Time); 5am-1.30pm
(EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359/ (029 2062-5665 can be used if the other is engaged) [Dial
Code: 011 44 2920. for US players]
UK Fax: 029 2062 5532
US: Fax: 1-503-296-2325
US alternate: Phone & Fax: 541-772-7872 (10-5pm weekdays) (fax24hrs)
****************************************************************
UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: PO Box 280, Medford, Oregon OR97501-0019 USA
Phone Times: 10am-6.30pm UK Time (BST);5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main is engaged)
(Dial 011 44 2920 913359 if US)
UK Fax: 029 2062 5532 24 hours
US Fax: 1-503-296-2325
US Alternate: Phone and Fax: 541 772 7872 10-5pm PST Weekdays, Fax 24hrs
****************************************************************
----- Original Message -----
From: "Middle Earth PBM Games" <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Whitelisting our account
Can we get some MSN account users to test email us please - it's working
with one player and I want to know if it's working with the rest.
Thanks
Clint
At 14:50 20/01/03, you wrote:
>Dear Players
>
>Okay it looks like MSN has black-listed our account. Emails with
>attachments are being blocked. Emails WITHOUT attachments are bouncing
as
>well.
>
>They won't listen to us as we're not customers.
>
>Options are:
>1) Use a friends email address permanently
>2) Change providers - ie get a new email address.
>3) our preferred option is that you contact them and ask that we be
removed
>from the black-list and allow our emails to get through from.
>
>me@MiddleEarthGames.com
>
>(please make sure that you give them the correct email address).
>
>Our apologies for any inconvenience this has caused you. Unfortunately
it's
>out of our control and we need to rely on your good will to sort the
problem
>out. If you need further assistance then get back to us (you can send
>emails to us fine - that's not a problem). If you are presently missing
any
>turns then please get back to us and we can get them forwarded to a
friends
>account and then them to you.
>
>Once again apologies for what is out of our control.
>
>Thanks
>Clint
>****************************************************************
> Middle Earth Games
>Mailto: me@MiddleEarthGames.com
>Website: www.MiddleEarthGames.com
>
>UK: Office A, 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP, UK
>USA: PO Box 280, Medford, OR 97501-0019, USA
>
>Phone times: 10am-6.30pm UK time (BST - British Standard Time);
5am-1.30pm
>(EST)
>UK: 029 2091 3359/ (029 2062-5665 can be used if the other is engaged)
[Dial
>Code: 011 44 2920. for US players]
>UK Fax: 029 2062 5532
>US: Fax: 1-503-296-2325
>US alternate: Phone & Fax: 541-772-7872 (10-5pm weekdays) (fax24hrs)
>****************************************************************
>
>
>Middle Earth PBM - hit reply to send to everyone
>To Unsubscribe: http://www.yahoogroups.com
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>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: PO Box 280, Medford, Oregon OR97501-0019 USA
Phone Times: 10am-6.30pm UK Time (BST);5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main is engaged)
(Dial 011 44 2920 913359 if US)
UK Fax: 029 2062 5532 24 hours
US Fax: 1-503-296-2325
US Alternate: Phone and Fax: 541 772 7872 10-5pm PST Weekdays, Fax 24hrs
****************************************************************
----- Original Message -----
From: "Middle Earth PBM Games" <me@MiddleEarthGames.com>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Whitelisting our account
> Can we get some MSN account users to test email us please - it's working
> with one player and I want to know if it's working with the rest.
>
> Thanks
>
> Clint
>
> At 14:50 20/01/03, you wrote:
> >Dear Players
> >
> >Okay it looks like MSN has black-listed our account. Emails with
> >attachments are being blocked. Emails WITHOUT attachments are bouncing
as
> >well.
> >
> >They won't listen to us as we're not customers.
> >
> >Options are:
> >1) Use a friends email address permanently
> >2) Change providers - ie get a new email address.
> >3) our preferred option is that you contact them and ask that we be
removed
> >from the black-list and allow our emails to get through from.
> >
> >me@MiddleEarthGames.com
> >
> >(please make sure that you give them the correct email address).
> >
> >Our apologies for any inconvenience this has caused you. Unfortunately
it's
> >out of our control and we need to rely on your good will to sort the
problem
> >out. If you need further assistance then get back to us (you can send
> >emails to us fine - that's not a problem). If you are presently missing
any
> >turns then please get back to us and we can get them forwarded to a
friends
> >account and then them to you.
> >
> >Once again apologies for what is out of our control.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Clint
> >****************************************************************
> > Middle Earth Games
> >Mailto: me@MiddleEarthGames.com
> >Website: www.MiddleEarthGames.com
> >
> >UK: Office A, 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP, UK
> >USA: PO Box 280, Medford, OR 97501-0019, USA
> >
> >Phone times: 10am-6.30pm UK time (BST - British Standard Time);
5am-1.30pm
> >(EST)
> >UK: 029 2091 3359/ (029 2062-5665 can be used if the other is engaged)
[Dial
> >Code: 011 44 2920. for US players]
> >UK Fax: 029 2062 5532
> >US: Fax: 1-503-296-2325
> >US alternate: Phone & Fax: 541-772-7872 (10-5pm weekdays) (fax24hrs)
> >****************************************************************
> >
> >Middle Earth PBM - hit reply to send to everyone
> >To Unsubscribe: http://www.yahoogroups.com
> >Website: http://www.MiddleEarthGames.com
> >
> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
> ****************************************************************
> Middle Earth Games
> Mailto: me@middleearthgames.com
> Website: www.middleearthgames.com
>
> UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
> US: PO Box 280, Medford, Oregon OR97501-0019 USA
>
> Phone Times: 10am-6.30pm UK Time (BST);5am-1.30 (EST)
> UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main is engaged)
> (Dial 011 44 2920 913359 if US)
> UK Fax: 029 2062 5532 24 hours
> US Fax: 1-503-296-2325
> US Alternate: Phone and Fax: 541 772 7872 10-5pm PST Weekdays, Fax 24hrs
> ****************************************************************
>
> Middle Earth PBM - hit reply to send to everyone
> To Unsubscribe: http://www.yahoogroups.com
> Website: http://www.MiddleEarthGames.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
UK: 340 North Road, Cardiff CF14 3BP UK
US: PO Box 280, Medford, Oregon OR97501-0019 USA
Phone Times: 10am-6.30pm UK Time (BST);5am-1.30 (EST)
UK: 029 2091 3359 (029 2062 5665 can be used if main is engaged)
(Dial 011 44 2920 913359 if US)
UK Fax: 029 2062 5532 24 hours
US Fax: 1-503-296-2325
US Alternate: Phone and Fax: 541 772 7872 10-5pm PST Weekdays, Fax 24hrs
****************************************************************
