Dragons

[Dunsters]

Hi all,

still in my quest for knowledge.

I've been reading about Dragons on several sites - they sound to be rather a boon to the DS. A couple of quick questions then; where would you find them? Mountains seem a fair bet but are they randomly spread around? Also, how do you actually find them without turning into overdone BBQ?

Just one other question re orders - I note that you cannot give more than 1 order of the same type per character per turn; but there are a number in the back of the rule book that are listed as 'type - miscellaneous'. Do these count as their type or as miscellaneous? I'm sure the answer is in the book but I can't quite find it.

Hope you don't mind answering newbie questions.

Many thanks

Simon

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[Richard_John_Devereu]

Hi all,

still in my quest for knowledge.

I've been reading about Dragons on several sites - they sound to be rather

a boon to the DS. A couple of quick questions then; where would you find
them? Mountains seem a fair bet but are they randomly spread around? Also,
how do you actually find them without turning into overdone BBQ?

RD: Dragons have been likened to tactical nuclear missiles because, if you
can recruit them into your army, they will kill huge numbers of enemy troops
in battle. Most dragons are found in the Misty mts, but also in the far
north, Mordor, and some hills and rough hexes between the Misties and
Mordor. Dragons turn up at these hexes randomly after a few turns' play.

If a dragon moves to a pop centre, the dragon is reported as a visitor. If
you want the encounter, to try to recruit the dragon, move a character to
the hex. Dragons usually stay for 2-3 turns, altho they may fly away after
1, but that's a chance you have to take. If you have a dragon encounter,
you need to give the correct response to recruit the dragon (if possible) or
to escape alive. Incorrect responses usually result in your character being
killed or at least injured down to 1 health. I'm not going to list all the
responses here - they are on several websites, and it's always a good idea
to check with your team-mates too.

Just one other question re orders - I note that you cannot give more than

1 order of the same type per character per turn; but there are a number in
the back of the rule book that are listed as 'type - miscellaneous'. Do
these count as their type or as miscellaneous? I'm sure the answer is in
the book but I can't quite find it.

Hope you don't mind answering newbie questions.

Many thanks

Simon

RD: You are allowed one skill order and one miscellaneous or move order per
character, or 2 misc orders, or 1 misc + 1 move.

If a misc order is tied to a skill, eg 925 Recon is a misc command order,
only a commander can issue it, but he can issue a skill order as well. If
you have the rulebook, look under 'skills' pp 18-19.

Hope that helps,

Richard.

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[speedracer75]

Regarding dragons... I'm assuming you're talking the
1650 scenario.

Typically, dragons can be located in the misty
mountains. You'll get the occasional one outside of
them though (Lamthanc visits Mordor, and Gostir is
normally way up north).

As for the orders... the miscellaneous orders do NOT
count as a skill order, however you must have the
indicated skill to use the miscellaneous order (i.e.,
you need agent skill to do 915 ScoHex orders, although
an agent could issue both 615 (assassinate) and 915
orders in the same turn.

Hope that helps,
Josh

--- "simon.dunsterville"

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<simon.dunsterville@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Hi all,

still in my quest for knowledge.

I've been reading about Dragons on several sites -
they sound to be rather a boon to the DS. A couple
of quick questions then; where would you find them?
Mountains seem a fair bet but are they randomly
spread around? Also, how do you actually find them
without turning into overdone BBQ?

Just one other question re orders - I note that you
cannot give more than 1 order of the same type per
character per turn; but there are a number in the
back of the rule book that are listed as 'type -
miscellaneous'. Do these count as their type or as
miscellaneous? I'm sure the answer is in the book
but I can't quite find it.

Hope you don't mind answering newbie questions.

Many thanks

Simon

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[Din]

--- Josh Spink <speedracer75@yahoo.com> wrote: >
Regarding dragons... I'm assuming you're talking the

1650 scenario.

Typically, dragons can be located in the misty
mountains. You'll get the occasional one outside of
them though (Lamthanc visits Mordor, and Gostir is
normally way up north).

I hate to admit it, but when I was told 'misty
mountains', I quietly looked at the map supplied to
see if it was listed there. Since it wasn't, I had to
ask 'where is that'.

The misty mountains is the mountain ridge that runs
north/south in the middle of the map. Some sites give
more locations, but creating camps in this mountain
ridge is the main way to see dragons.

thanks
din

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[Dunsters]

Makes sense on the orders front - thanks for that, I've been thinking a bit
too restrictedly.

On Dragons, how do you locate them? Is it a matter of turning up in the
same hex and having an encounter, or do you need to actively seek them out?

Many thanks for the help,

Simon

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----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Spink <speedracer75@yahoo.com>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Dragons

Regarding dragons... I'm assuming you're talking the
1650 scenario.

Typically, dragons can be located in the misty
mountains. You'll get the occasional one outside of
them though (Lamthanc visits Mordor, and Gostir is
normally way up north).

As for the orders... the miscellaneous orders do NOT
count as a skill order, however you must have the
indicated skill to use the miscellaneous order (i.e.,
you need agent skill to do 915 ScoHex orders, although
an agent could issue both 615 (assassinate) and 915
orders in the same turn.

Hope that helps,
Josh

--- "simon.dunsterville"
<simon.dunsterville@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> still in my quest for knowledge.
>
> I've been reading about Dragons on several sites -
> they sound to be rather a boon to the DS. A couple
> of quick questions then; where would you find them?
> Mountains seem a fair bet but are they randomly
> spread around? Also, how do you actually find them
> without turning into overdone BBQ?
>
> Just one other question re orders - I note that you
> cannot give more than 1 order of the same type per
> character per turn; but there are a number in the
> back of the rule book that are listed as 'type -
> miscellaneous'. Do these count as their type or as
> miscellaneous? I'm sure the answer is in the book
> but I can't quite find it.
>
> Hope you don't mind answering newbie questions.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Simon
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>

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[tonyz]

It's a matter of getting into the same hex. Dragons move around, however,
so you can't just go to the same hex you found them in last time. (They
don't move every turn, however, so planting camps in the Grey or Misty
Mountains is one way to find them -- the dragon shows up at the camp,
you notice it on your turn report, and send a character to recruit
the dragon.)

Tony Z

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On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 06:03:23PM +0100, simon.dunsterville wrote:

Makes sense on the orders front - thanks for that, I've been thinking a bit
too restrictedly.

On Dragons, how do you locate them? Is it a matter of turning up in the
same hex and having an encounter, or do you need to actively seek them out?

--
"The King with half the East at heel is marched from lands of morning;
His fighters drink the rivers up, their shafts benight the air,
And he that stays will die for naught, and home there's no returning."
The Spartans on the sea-wet rock sat down and combed their hair.--A.E. Housman

[Dunsters]

Thanks for that - I have to admit I do have to work out where some locations
are from first principles! Luckily I knew this one, but I've fallen into
the same trap with Newbies in other games.

Cheers for the help

Simon

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From: Din <din_ohtar@yahoo.com.au>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Dragons

--- Josh Spink <speedracer75@yahoo.com> wrote: >
Regarding dragons... I'm assuming you're talking the
> 1650 scenario.
>
> Typically, dragons can be located in the misty
> mountains. You'll get the occasional one outside of
> them though (Lamthanc visits Mordor, and Gostir is
> normally way up north).

I hate to admit it, but when I was told 'misty
mountains', I quietly looked at the map supplied to
see if it was listed there. Since it wasn't, I had to
ask 'where is that'.

The misty mountains is the mountain ridge that runs
north/south in the middle of the map. Some sites give
more locations, but creating camps in this mountain
ridge is the main way to see dragons.

thanks
din

>

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[rednbucko]

Simon,
     The mountains running along the 04 row is also very fruitful as
far as dragons go. As to encountering them, they move randomly, but
sometimes stay at a location for a few turns. It is an excellent
move for the DS to place camps in the mountains for several reasons,
two being because the dragons raise the loyalty (they lower it for
the Free People) and so you can have a better chance at trying to
encounter a dragon which you think you can recruit.
     Jim
--- In mepbmlist@y..., "simon.dunsterville" <simon.dunsterville@n...>
wrote:

Makes sense on the orders front - thanks for that, I've been

thinking a bit

too restrictedly.

On Dragons, how do you locate them? Is it a matter of turning up

in the

same hex and having an encounter, or do you need to actively seek

them out?

Many thanks for the help,

Simon

From: Josh Spink <speedracer75@y...>
To: <mepbmlist@y...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Dragons

> Regarding dragons... I'm assuming you're talking the
> 1650 scenario.
>
> Typically, dragons can be located in the misty
> mountains. You'll get the occasional one outside of
> them though (Lamthanc visits Mordor, and Gostir is
> normally way up north).
>
> As for the orders... the miscellaneous orders do NOT
> count as a skill order, however you must have the
> indicated skill to use the miscellaneous order (i.e.,
> you need agent skill to do 915 ScoHex orders, although
> an agent could issue both 615 (assassinate) and 915
> orders in the same turn.
>
> Hope that helps,
> Josh
>
> --- "simon.dunsterville"
> <simon.dunsterville@n...> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > still in my quest for knowledge.
> >
> > I've been reading about Dragons on several sites -
> > they sound to be rather a boon to the DS. A couple
> > of quick questions then; where would you find them?
> > Mountains seem a fair bet but are they randomly
> > spread around? Also, how do you actually find them
> > without turning into overdone BBQ?
> >
> > Just one other question re orders - I note that you
> > cannot give more than 1 order of the same type per
> > character per turn; but there are a number in the
> > back of the rule book that are listed as 'type -
> > miscellaneous'. Do these count as their type or as
> > miscellaneous? I'm sure the answer is in the book
> > but I can't quite find it.
> >
> > Hope you don't mind answering newbie questions.
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
>
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[speedracer75]

Well, in the early game, it's good for DS emissaries
to create camps in the misty mountains. Dragons
usually start showing up on turns 4-5, and when
they're at your popcenter, you'll see them listed
under the popcenter (listed as Foreign Characters
reported, or something like that).

Not to mention that dragons boost loyalties when at DS
popcenters... they lower them at FP popcenters, too,
just like a high ranking emissary.

But other than that, yes you just have to seek them
out in the Misty's. I believe I recall someone once
telling me you have approximately a 1 in 4 chance of
randomly running into a dragon if you just wander the
misty's. Don't know if that's a good number or not,
but thought I'd mention it.

Josh

--- "simon.dunsterville"

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<simon.dunsterville@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Makes sense on the orders front - thanks for that,
I've been thinking a bit
too restrictedly.

On Dragons, how do you locate them? Is it a matter
of turning up in the
same hex and having an encounter, or do you need to
actively seek them out?

Many thanks for the help,

Simon

----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Spink <speedracer75@yahoo.com>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Dragons

> Regarding dragons... I'm assuming you're talking
the
> 1650 scenario.
>
> Typically, dragons can be located in the misty
> mountains. You'll get the occasional one outside
of
> them though (Lamthanc visits Mordor, and Gostir is
> normally way up north).
>
> As for the orders... the miscellaneous orders do
NOT
> count as a skill order, however you must have the
> indicated skill to use the miscellaneous order
(i.e.,
> you need agent skill to do 915 ScoHex orders,
although
> an agent could issue both 615 (assassinate) and
915
> orders in the same turn.
>
> Hope that helps,
> Josh
>
> --- "simon.dunsterville"
> <simon.dunsterville@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > still in my quest for knowledge.
> >
> > I've been reading about Dragons on several sites
-
> > they sound to be rather a boon to the DS. A
couple
> > of quick questions then; where would you find
them?
> > Mountains seem a fair bet but are they randomly
> > spread around? Also, how do you actually find
them
> > without turning into overdone BBQ?
> >
> > Just one other question re orders - I note that
you
> > cannot give more than 1 order of the same type
per
> > character per turn; but there are a number in
the
> > back of the rule book that are listed as 'type -
> > miscellaneous'. Do these count as their type or
as
> > miscellaneous? I'm sure the answer is in the
book
> > but I can't quite find it.
> >
> > Hope you don't mind answering newbie questions.
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
>
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[Dunsters]

Many thanks for all the responses - think I've got what I needed to know!

I now know where to start looking and like the idea of a tactical nuke
hiding in the ranks. I take it from these responses that Dragons tend to
favour the DS over the freeps.

Thanks forall your help

Simon

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From: Richard John Devereux <devereux@lineone.net>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Dragons

----- Original Message -----
From: "simon.dunsterville" <simon.dunsterville@ntlworld.com>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:43 AM
Subject: [mepbmlist] Dragons

> Hi all,
>
> still in my quest for knowledge.
>
> I've been reading about Dragons on several sites - they sound to be

rather

a boon to the DS. A couple of quick questions then; where would you find
them? Mountains seem a fair bet but are they randomly spread around?

Also,

how do you actually find them without turning into overdone BBQ?

RD: Dragons have been likened to tactical nuclear missiles because, if you
can recruit them into your army, they will kill huge numbers of enemy

troops

in battle. Most dragons are found in the Misty mts, but also in the far
north, Mordor, and some hills and rough hexes between the Misties and
Mordor. Dragons turn up at these hexes randomly after a few turns' play.

If a dragon moves to a pop centre, the dragon is reported as a visitor.

If

you want the encounter, to try to recruit the dragon, move a character to
the hex. Dragons usually stay for 2-3 turns, altho they may fly away

after

1, but that's a chance you have to take. If you have a dragon encounter,
you need to give the correct response to recruit the dragon (if possible)

or

to escape alive. Incorrect responses usually result in your character

being

killed or at least injured down to 1 health. I'm not going to list all

the

responses here - they are on several websites, and it's always a good idea
to check with your team-mates too.
>
> Just one other question re orders - I note that you cannot give more

than

1 order of the same type per character per turn; but there are a number in
the back of the rule book that are listed as 'type - miscellaneous'. Do
these count as their type or as miscellaneous? I'm sure the answer is in
the book but I can't quite find it.
>
> Hope you don't mind answering newbie questions.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Simon

RD: You are allowed one skill order and one miscellaneous or move order

per

character, or 2 misc orders, or 1 misc + 1 move.

If a misc order is tied to a skill, eg 925 Recon is a misc command order,
only a commander can issue it, but he can issue a skill order as well. If
you have the rulebook, look under 'skills' pp 18-19.

Hope that helps,

Richard.

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[speedracer75]

Only two dragons are recruitable by the FP that I know
of... Throkmaw and Scorba (Scatha? I think it's
Scorba...). The majority of them are recruitable by
the DS, although sometimes it's not worth it (i.e. 2
artifacts (which they DO take, and you have to have
them)).

Josh

--- "simon.dunsterville"

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<simon.dunsterville@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Many thanks for all the responses - think I've got
what I needed to know!

I now know where to start looking and like the idea
of a tactical nuke
hiding in the ranks. I take it from these responses
that Dragons tend to
favour the DS over the freeps.

Thanks forall your help

Simon

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From: Richard John Devereux <devereux@lineone.net>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Dragons

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "simon.dunsterville"
<simon.dunsterville@ntlworld.com>
> To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:43 AM
> Subject: [mepbmlist] Dragons
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > still in my quest for knowledge.
> >
> > I've been reading about Dragons on several sites
- they sound to be
rather
> a boon to the DS. A couple of quick questions
then; where would you find
> them? Mountains seem a fair bet but are they
randomly spread around?
Also,
> how do you actually find them without turning into
overdone BBQ?
>
> RD: Dragons have been likened to tactical nuclear
missiles because, if you
> can recruit them into your army, they will kill
huge numbers of enemy
troops
> in battle. Most dragons are found in the Misty
mts, but also in the far
> north, Mordor, and some hills and rough hexes
between the Misties and
> Mordor. Dragons turn up at these hexes randomly
after a few turns' play.
>
> If a dragon moves to a pop centre, the dragon is
reported as a visitor.
If
> you want the encounter, to try to recruit the
dragon, move a character to
> the hex. Dragons usually stay for 2-3 turns,
altho they may fly away
after
> 1, but that's a chance you have to take. If you
have a dragon encounter,
> you need to give the correct response to recruit
the dragon (if possible)
or
> to escape alive. Incorrect responses usually
result in your character
being
> killed or at least injured down to 1 health. I'm
not going to list all
the
> responses here - they are on several websites, and
it's always a good idea
> to check with your team-mates too.
> >
> > Just one other question re orders - I note that
you cannot give more
than
> 1 order of the same type per character per turn;
but there are a number in
> the back of the rule book that are listed as 'type
- miscellaneous'. Do
> these count as their type or as miscellaneous?
I'm sure the answer is in
> the book but I can't quite find it.
> >
> > Hope you don't mind answering newbie questions.
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > Simon
>
> RD: You are allowed one skill order and one
miscellaneous or move order
per
> character, or 2 misc orders, or 1 misc + 1 move.
>
> If a misc order is tied to a skill, eg 925 Recon
is a misc command order,
> only a commander can issue it, but he can issue a
skill order as well. If
> you have the rulebook, look under 'skills' pp
18-19.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Richard.
>
> >
> >
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[Draugnar]

Ah! But as a Dark Servant, you just give them the artifacts from the danged
Freedom loving scum. I like to find good artifacts and give them to the
dragons. Keeps the evil and neutrals ones avaiilable for use and limits
what the free people can use.

-Draugnar

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-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Spink [mailto:speedracer75@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:24 PM
To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Dragons

Only two dragons are recruitable by the FP that I know
of... Throkmaw and Scorba (Scatha? I think it's
Scorba...). The majority of them are recruitable by
the DS, although sometimes it's not worth it (i.e. 2
artifacts (which they DO take, and you have to have
them)).

Josh

--- "simon.dunsterville"
<simon.dunsterville@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Many thanks for all the responses - think I've got
what I needed to know!

I now know where to start looking and like the idea
of a tactical nuke
hiding in the ranks. I take it from these responses
that Dragons tend to
favour the DS over the freeps.

Thanks forall your help

Simon

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard John Devereux <devereux@lineone.net>
To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Dragons

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "simon.dunsterville"
<simon.dunsterville@ntlworld.com>
> To: <mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:43 AM
> Subject: [mepbmlist] Dragons
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > still in my quest for knowledge.
> >
> > I've been reading about Dragons on several sites
- they sound to be
rather
> a boon to the DS. A couple of quick questions
then; where would you find
> them? Mountains seem a fair bet but are they
randomly spread around?
Also,
> how do you actually find them without turning into
overdone BBQ?
>
> RD: Dragons have been likened to tactical nuclear
missiles because, if you
> can recruit them into your army, they will kill
huge numbers of enemy
troops
> in battle. Most dragons are found in the Misty
mts, but also in the far
> north, Mordor, and some hills and rough hexes
between the Misties and
> Mordor. Dragons turn up at these hexes randomly
after a few turns' play.
>
> If a dragon moves to a pop centre, the dragon is
reported as a visitor.
If
> you want the encounter, to try to recruit the
dragon, move a character to
> the hex. Dragons usually stay for 2-3 turns,
altho they may fly away
after
> 1, but that's a chance you have to take. If you
have a dragon encounter,
> you need to give the correct response to recruit
the dragon (if possible)
or
> to escape alive. Incorrect responses usually
result in your character
being
> killed or at least injured down to 1 health. I'm
not going to list all
the
> responses here - they are on several websites, and
it's always a good idea
> to check with your team-mates too.
> >
> > Just one other question re orders - I note that
you cannot give more
than
> 1 order of the same type per character per turn;
but there are a number in
> the back of the rule book that are listed as 'type
- miscellaneous'. Do
> these count as their type or as miscellaneous?
I'm sure the answer is in
> the book but I can't quite find it.
> >
> > Hope you don't mind answering newbie questions.
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > Simon
>
> RD: You are allowed one skill order and one
miscellaneous or move order
per
> character, or 2 misc orders, or 1 misc + 1 move.
>
> If a misc order is tied to a skill, eg 925 Recon
is a misc command order,
> only a commander can issue it, but he can issue a
skill order as well. If
> you have the rulebook, look under 'skills' pp
18-19.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Richard.
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[Aaruman]

True, except for the 2 mentioned. However, the FP can also get Woses, Eagles, Ents,
and Hobbits(!?) in their armies (while the DS can get a Balrog). None of these are
nearly as powerful as Dragons, though.

Mike Mulka

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-
-
-Many thanks for all the responses - think I've got what I needed to know!
-
-I now know where to start looking and like the idea of a tactical nuke
-hiding in the ranks. I take it from these responses that Dragons tend to
-favour the DS over the freeps.
-
-Thanks forall your help
-
-Simon

[Ray_Devlin]

Just how effective are eagles in combat?

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--- Aaruman <aaruman@orions.net> wrote:

True, except for the 2 mentioned. However, the FP
can also get Woses, Eagles, Ents,
and Hobbits(!?) in their armies (while the DS can
get a Balrog). None of these are
nearly as powerful as Dragons, though.

Mike Mulka

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[mailto:simon.dunsterville@ntlworld.com]
-Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 3:08 PM
-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
-Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Dragons
-
-
-Many thanks for all the responses - think I've got
what I needed to know!
-
-I now know where to start looking and like the idea
of a tactical nuke
-hiding in the ranks. I take it from these
responses that Dragons tend to
-favour the DS over the freeps.
-
-Thanks forall your help
-
-Simon

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[Din]

True, except for the 2 mentioned. However, the FP
can also get Woses,

scouting ?

Eagles,

scouting and combat bonus ?

Ents,

great combat bonus, and we know where they are. In
most of my games where i'm free, we run a train line
down to pick up ents. Its great fun.

and Hobbits(!?)

scouting ?

in their armies (while the DS can
get a Balrog).

never seen a balrog in an army before.

None of these are
nearly as powerful as Dragons, though.

can't we also pick up elephants ???

thanks
din

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-
-
-Many thanks for all the responses - think I've got
what I needed to know!
-
-I now know where to start looking and like the idea
of a tactical nuke
-hiding in the ranks. I take it from these
responses that Dragons tend to
-favour the DS over the freeps.
-
-Thanks forall your help
-
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[speedracer75]

Balrog's aren't nearly as powerful as dragons, and
they're fairly hard to get. You need to move your
army into the hex where the balrog is, and he'll join
the army.

The other thing that I can think of that's recruitable
is the pack of mumak...

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--- Din <din_ohtar@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> in their armies (while the DS can
> get a Balrog).

never seen a balrog in an army before.

>
> None of these are
> nearly as powerful as Dragons, though.

can't we also pick up elephants ???

thanks
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[blchezluis]

--- In mepbmlist@y..., Josh Spink <speedracer75@y...> wrote:

Balrog's aren't nearly as powerful as dragons, and
they're fairly hard to get. You need to move your
army into the hex where the balrog is, and he'll join
the army.

Actually I have seen reports where Balrogs have done more damage than
a Dragon, due to the fact he has a higher challenge rank. Balrogs
are the equivalent of Maiar, except that they served the one who is
now nameless (Morgoth for you non-Tolkein fiends). Since there is
only one army recruitable "The Balrog" encouter, it could definitely
be assumed he is a rare encounter. Also make sure you fight alot or
else he will injure your army commander and kill some troops.
Another nifty thing for the Balrog encounter is that since he is an
army encounter he does destroy Free people armies he encounters
unlike Dragons.

Brian <wwhhhd>

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The other thing that I can think of that's recruitable
is the pack of mumak...

— Din <din_ohtar@y…> wrote:
> > in their armies (while the DS can
> > get a Balrog).
>
> never seen a balrog in an army before.
>
> >
> > None of these are
> > nearly as powerful as Dragons, though.
>
> can't we also pick up elephants ???
>
> thanks
> din
>

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[speedracer75]

Perhaps it was the mumak pack I was thinking of... it
hardly added any damage at all to combat.

Josh

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--- blchezluis@aol.com wrote:

--- In mepbmlist@y..., Josh Spink
<speedracer75@y...> wrote:
>
> Balrog's aren't nearly as powerful as dragons, and
> they're fairly hard to get. You need to move your
> army into the hex where the balrog is, and he'll
join
> the army.
>
Actually I have seen reports where Balrogs have done
more damage than
a Dragon, due to the fact he has a higher challenge
rank. Balrogs
are the equivalent of Maiar, except that they served
the one who is
now nameless (Morgoth for you non-Tolkein fiends).
Since there is
only one army recruitable "The Balrog" encouter, it
could definitely
be assumed he is a rare encounter. Also make sure
you fight alot or
else he will injure your army commander and kill
some troops.
Another nifty thing for the Balrog encounter is that
since he is an
army encounter he does destroy Free people armies he
encounters
unlike Dragons.

Brian <wwhhhd>

> The other thing that I can think of that's
recruitable
> is the pack of mumak…
>
>
>
> — Din <din_ohtar@y…> wrote:
> > > in their armies (while the DS can
> > > get a Balrog).
> >
> > never seen a balrog in an army before.
> >
> > >
> > > None of these are
> > > nearly as powerful as Dragons, though.
> >
> > can't we also pick up elephants ???
> >
> > thanks
> > din
> >
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[Dunsters]

Ok, Hobbits......

The only use I've ever found for them was in SPI's the War of the Ring in
which Aragorn used them as a last line of defense vs Nazgul with long lances
(make really good Kebabs).

Seriously, I can see the use for Dragons, Balrogs etc, but what do you use
Hobbits for? I'm curious.

Cheers

Simon

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Subject: RE: [mepbmlist] Dragons

True, except for the 2 mentioned. However, the FP can also get Woses,

Eagles, Ents,

and Hobbits(!?) in their armies (while the DS can get a Balrog). None of

these are

nearly as powerful as Dragons, though.

Mike Mulka

------Original Message-----
-From: simon.dunsterville [mailto:simon.dunsterville@ntlworld.com]
-Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 3:08 PM
-To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
-Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Dragons
-
-
-Many thanks for all the responses - think I've got what I needed to know!
-
-I now know where to start looking and like the idea of a tactical nuke
-hiding in the ranks. I take it from these responses that Dragons tend to
-favour the DS over the freeps.
-
-Thanks forall your help
-
-Simon

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[Richard_John_Devereu]

Ok, Hobbits......

The only use I've ever found for them was in SPI's the War of the Ring in
which Aragorn used them as a last line of defense vs Nazgul with long

lances

(make really good Kebabs).

Seriously, I can see the use for Dragons, Balrogs etc, but what do you use
Hobbits for? I'm curious.

Cheers

Simon

RD: Hobbits give FP armies a recon and/or morale boost each turn. Don't
know if they give a combat bonus as I've never managed to get them into a
fight. As soon as they see the peaks of the Misty mts loom on the horizon,
they bugger off!

Richard.

From: Aaruman <aaruman@orions.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 11:11 PM
Subject: RE: [mepbmlist] Dragons

> True, except for the 2 mentioned. However, the FP can also get Woses,
Eagles, Ents,
> and Hobbits(!?) in their armies (while the DS can get a Balrog). None of
these are
> nearly as powerful as Dragons, though.
>
> Mike Mulka
>
> -From: simon.dunsterville [mailto:simon.dunsterville@ntlworld.com]
> -Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 3:08 PM
> -To: mepbmlist@yahoogroups.com
> -Subject: Re: [mepbmlist] Dragons
> -
> -
> -Many thanks for all the responses - think I've got what I needed to

know!

> -
> -I now know where to start looking and like the idea of a tactical nuke
> -hiding in the ranks. I take it from these responses that Dragons tend

to

> -favour the DS over the freeps.
> -
> -Thanks forall your help
> -
> -Simon
>
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